Anonymous
Post 12/20/2021 09:51     Subject: Aw yeah: Connecticut Ave. Bike lanes are coming
The vast majority of folks clogging the streets during rush hour are not people transporting large amounts of goods that couldn't be moved by bike. The cargo e-bikes are like the minivans of bikes and are fine for moving a couple of kids, a typical set of groceries etc.

Imagine if the roads were only used by delivery trucks and full cars. Maybe some golf carts for seniors / people with disabilities.

The rest of us can walk, take public transportation, or bike. Sure, it would be different, but we'd have cleaner air, better health, and fewer dead bodies on the road.
Anonymous
Post 12/20/2021 07:11     Subject: Aw yeah: Connecticut Ave. Bike lanes are coming
I think bike lanes are a great idea — I used to commute along there and not only did I worry about being killed, bikes in traffic lanes definitely slow the cars down. Not sure how I feel about not having rush hour direction changes. On one hand, I can definitely see how it leads to accidents and I witnessed one being only narrowly avoided when someone didn’t read the paragraph of text on one of the signs. But on the other, that road is so busy with the extra lanes! I shudder to think how awful it will be for car commuters now.
Anonymous
Post 12/20/2021 07:04     Subject: Aw yeah: Connecticut Ave. Bike lanes are coming
^^^^Not to mention the logic of:

"We shouldn't have bike lanes on Connecticut Avenue because it would take a long time to deliver a Christmas card across the country if the US Postal Service had to transport it the whole way by bicycle."
Anonymous
Post 12/20/2021 07:02     Subject: Aw yeah: Connecticut Ave. Bike lanes are coming
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Sorry but you have missed something. Bikes could not possibly carry goods to stores. Well, I guess they could in very, very small amounts. But imagine how long it would take to stock a store or how much more money they would charge for merchandise if stuff was delivered by bike. Also imagine how long it would take to get your mail or packages from someone if they had to cycle it across town.

We need vehicles, but we don't need bikes.


And yet they do, all over the world.


Really, all over the world? Imagine trying to stock the shelves at Walmart if they could only use bikes to bring in their goods. Or how about furniture stores? Can you imagine a store getting a sofa delivered by someone on a bike?



Eh? I don't have to imagine it. See, for example: https://www.bikesatwork.com/blog/ikea-store-in-hamburg-germany-makes-deliveries-by-bike
I have to admit, those photos were a surprise but I'm still not wrong. You put up a photo of a store doing a delivery for a customer by bike. If the store had to wait on a guy with a bike to deliver merchandise to the store the store would be half empty. Imagine grocery stores waiting to stock its shelves because they were waiting for cyclists to bring in the food.

We've really gone off topic and that's mainly my fault. But my opinion is still the same. The next time you send out a Christmas card to a relative that lives across the country, imagine how long it would take to get there if the mailman had to ride his bike across country.


You should visit the US Postal Museum some time.

https://about.usps.com/who-we-are/postal-history/mail-by-rail.pdf
Anonymous
Post 12/20/2021 00:04     Subject: Aw yeah: Connecticut Ave. Bike lanes are coming
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Sorry but you have missed something. Bikes could not possibly carry goods to stores. Well, I guess they could in very, very small amounts. But imagine how long it would take to stock a store or how much more money they would charge for merchandise if stuff was delivered by bike. Also imagine how long it would take to get your mail or packages from someone if they had to cycle it across town.

We need vehicles, but we don't need bikes.


And yet they do, all over the world.


Really, all over the world? Imagine trying to stock the shelves at Walmart if they could only use bikes to bring in their goods. Or how about furniture stores? Can you imagine a store getting a sofa delivered by someone on a bike?



Eh? I don't have to imagine it. See, for example: https://www.bikesatwork.com/blog/ikea-store-in-hamburg-germany-makes-deliveries-by-bike
I have to admit, those photos were a surprise but I'm still not wrong. You put up a photo of a store doing a delivery for a customer by bike. If the store had to wait on a guy with a bike to deliver merchandise to the store the store would be half empty. Imagine grocery stores waiting to stock its shelves because they were waiting for cyclists to bring in the food.

We've really gone off topic and that's mainly my fault. But my opinion is still the same. The next time you send out a Christmas card to a relative that lives across the country, imagine how long it would take to get there if the mailman had to ride his bike across country.
Anonymous
Post 12/19/2021 23:43     Subject: Aw yeah: Connecticut Ave. Bike lanes are coming
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Sorry but you have missed something. Bikes could not possibly carry goods to stores. Well, I guess they could in very, very small amounts. But imagine how long it would take to stock a store or how much more money they would charge for merchandise if stuff was delivered by bike. Also imagine how long it would take to get your mail or packages from someone if they had to cycle it across town.

We need vehicles, but we don't need bikes.


And yet they do, all over the world.


Really, all over the world? Imagine trying to stock the shelves at Walmart if they could only use bikes to bring in their goods. Or how about furniture stores? Can you imagine a store getting a sofa delivered by someone on a bike?



Eh? I don't have to imagine it. See, for example: https://www.bikesatwork.com/blog/ikea-store-in-hamburg-germany-makes-deliveries-by-bike
Anonymous
Post 12/19/2021 23:35     Subject: Aw yeah: Connecticut Ave. Bike lanes are coming
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Sorry but you have missed something. Bikes could not possibly carry goods to stores. Well, I guess they could in very, very small amounts. But imagine how long it would take to stock a store or how much more money they would charge for merchandise if stuff was delivered by bike. Also imagine how long it would take to get your mail or packages from someone if they had to cycle it across town.

We need vehicles, but we don't need bikes.


And yet they do, all over the world.


Really, all over the world? Imagine trying to stock the shelves at Walmart if they could only use bikes to bring in their goods. Or how about furniture stores? Can you imagine a store getting a sofa delivered by someone on a bike?

Anonymous
Post 12/19/2021 23:19     Subject: Aw yeah: Connecticut Ave. Bike lanes are coming
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Anonymous wrote:Maybe we will all switch to E-bikes. It sort of worked with the HOV lanes - they were marginally utilized until we could use them as solo driver so long as we were in electric/hybrid car. The stopped auto traffic will look yearningly at the E-bikes sailing past. Or not.

Charging the batteries for Ebikes is burning down apartment buildings.
https://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/ny-fatal-nycha-fires-20211216-eq6htcy7rbdu7dgv6idgylif3y-story.html


Now do ecars.
Not a fan of ecars either.


At least ICE cars don't catch fire. Oh wait
Anonymous
Post 12/19/2021 23:12     Subject: Aw yeah: Connecticut Ave. Bike lanes are coming
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Maybe we will all switch to E-bikes. It sort of worked with the HOV lanes - they were marginally utilized until we could use them as solo driver so long as we were in electric/hybrid car. The stopped auto traffic will look yearningly at the E-bikes sailing past. Or not.

Charging the batteries for Ebikes is burning down apartment buildings.
https://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/ny-fatal-nycha-fires-20211216-eq6htcy7rbdu7dgv6idgylif3y-story.html


Now do ecars.
Not a fan of ecars either.
Anonymous
Post 12/19/2021 23:09     Subject: Aw yeah: Connecticut Ave. Bike lanes are coming
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There are so many bike lanes in DC and they’re almost always empty.


This! I hardly ever see anyone using the bike lane in the middle of Pennsylvania Avenue except for the occasional non-helmet wearing tourist on a city bike


I use it every day to get to work. I do believe it's hard for drivers to see me there because I'm not on their phone screen.
Anonymous
Post 12/19/2021 22:33     Subject: Aw yeah: Connecticut Ave. Bike lanes are coming
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Maybe we will all switch to E-bikes. It sort of worked with the HOV lanes - they were marginally utilized until we could use them as solo driver so long as we were in electric/hybrid car. The stopped auto traffic will look yearningly at the E-bikes sailing past. Or not.

Charging the batteries for Ebikes is burning down apartment buildings.
https://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/ny-fatal-nycha-fires-20211216-eq6htcy7rbdu7dgv6idgylif3y-story.html


Now do ecars.
Anonymous
Post 12/19/2021 22:33     Subject: Aw yeah: Connecticut Ave. Bike lanes are coming
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There are so many bike lanes in DC and they’re almost always empty.


This! I hardly ever see anyone using the bike lane in the middle of Pennsylvania Avenue except for the occasional non-helmet wearing tourist on a city bike


That's because bicycles come with a Cloak of Invisibility. Or so I assume, when drivers are unable to see me and my bike when we're right there in front of them.
Anonymous
Post 12/19/2021 22:23     Subject: Aw yeah: Connecticut Ave. Bike lanes are coming
Anonymous wrote:There are so many bike lanes in DC and they’re almost always empty.


This! I hardly ever see anyone using the bike lane in the middle of Pennsylvania Avenue except for the occasional non-helmet wearing tourist on a city bike
Anonymous
Post 12/19/2021 22:17     Subject: Aw yeah: Connecticut Ave. Bike lanes are coming
Anonymous wrote:Maybe we will all switch to E-bikes. It sort of worked with the HOV lanes - they were marginally utilized until we could use them as solo driver so long as we were in electric/hybrid car. The stopped auto traffic will look yearningly at the E-bikes sailing past. Or not.

Charging the batteries for Ebikes is burning down apartment buildings.
https://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/ny-fatal-nycha-fires-20211216-eq6htcy7rbdu7dgv6idgylif3y-story.html
Anonymous
Post 12/19/2021 21:59     Subject: Aw yeah: Connecticut Ave. Bike lanes are coming
Maybe we will all switch to E-bikes. It sort of worked with the HOV lanes - they were marginally utilized until we could use them as solo driver so long as we were in electric/hybrid car. The stopped auto traffic will look yearningly at the E-bikes sailing past. Or not.