Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How could anyone have predicted that closing schools for 12-18 months would have negative consequences? Oh wait...
Seriously. I don't understand why the schools and teachers thought the kids were going to be ok. News Flash: They're not ok.
Why is it the responsibility of the school to “help and/or fix” them, that is the parents primary responsibility.
Hmmm, because they broke them by remaining closed well after most workplaces opened back up? Kids were left alone and still expected to complete academic work. Because the pandemic showed the true dysfunction of the public school system and the safety backstops which had been reliant on open school buildings were suddenly gone from so many who depended on them?
Because parents love and want the best for their kids but if your life is built around the legally obligated reality that your child has to be in a school building for 6+ hours a day, then, well it takes a lot to transition to another plan when suddenly that building closes. Fair enough. When it’s clear that you are caught in the middle of a battle between the BOEs and teachers unions, you lose the ability to cope through that transition. Only to be forced to transition again even though most businesses, bars, restaurants and federal IC buildings are open for business as usual?
Schools play a vital role in our community. More than education. Or they did until they made it clear they only want to provide education whether or not anyone learns and aren’t responsible for any of the other roles they’ve played in the past.
NP, and not a teacher.
Sure. And now it is going to get worse. Because teachers and schools can't carry this for you. They are your kids, and if the whole thing falls down, they are still, in the end, your kids. Not anyone else's.
Don't make it even worse.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How could anyone have predicted that closing schools for 12-18 months would have negative consequences? Oh wait...
Seriously. I don't understand why the schools and teachers thought the kids were going to be ok. News Flash: They're not ok.
Why is it the responsibility of the school to “help and/or fix” them, that is the parents primary responsibility.
Hmmm, because they broke them by remaining closed well after most workplaces opened back up? Kids were left alone and still expected to complete academic work. Because the pandemic showed the true dysfunction of the public school system and the safety backstops which had been reliant on open school buildings were suddenly gone from so many who depended on them?
Because parents love and want the best for their kids but if your life is built around the legally obligated reality that your child has to be in a school building for 6+ hours a day, then, well it takes a lot to transition to another plan when suddenly that building closes. Fair enough. When it’s clear that you are caught in the middle of a battle between the BOEs and teachers unions, you lose the ability to cope through that transition. Only to be forced to transition again even though most businesses, bars, restaurants and federal IC buildings are open for business as usual?
Schools play a vital role in our community. More than education. Or they did until they made it clear they only want to provide education whether or not anyone learns and aren’t responsible for any of the other roles they’ve played in the past.
Nobody “broke them.” Your “workplace opening back up” is not their responsibility.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It’s a hard year for sure but that’s what happens when kids are out of school for so long. I think many teachers switching to private industry may be in fro a rude awakening (or not, just depends on what you value). I find the “go volunteer” comments very privileged. Most parents have their own jobs w little leave time that must be reserved for the excessive quarantines going on. My kids teacher is fantastic and I’m so grateful when I read posts like this. Btw, totally agree teachers should be paid way more but when you extrapolate their salaries on an annual basis it’s pretty on par for entry level for most professions, except no pensions, shitty benefits, or job protection. Still, they should be paid more. The teachers on forums taking about not being babaysitters have really contributed to the toxicity w parents. And it’s pretty demeaning to childcare workers.
No, the PARENTS are responsible for their own toxicity, not what teachers said or didn’t say on the internet.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How could anyone have predicted that closing schools for 12-18 months would have negative consequences? Oh wait...
Seriously. I don't understand why the schools and teachers thought the kids were going to be ok. News Flash: They're not ok.
Why is it the responsibility of the school to “help and/or fix” them, that is the parents primary responsibility.
Hmmm, because they broke them by remaining closed well after most workplaces opened back up? Kids were left alone and still expected to complete academic work. Because the pandemic showed the true dysfunction of the public school system and the safety backstops which had been reliant on open school buildings were suddenly gone from so many who depended on them?
Because parents love and want the best for their kids but if your life is built around the legally obligated reality that your child has to be in a school building for 6+ hours a day, then, well it takes a lot to transition to another plan when suddenly that building closes. Fair enough. When it’s clear that you are caught in the middle of a battle between the BOEs and teachers unions, you lose the ability to cope through that transition. Only to be forced to transition again even though most businesses, bars, restaurants and federal IC buildings are open for business as usual?
Schools play a vital role in our community. More than education. Or they did until they made it clear they only want to provide education whether or not anyone learns and aren’t responsible for any of the other roles they’ve played in the past.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:https://www.boredteachers.com/post/15-reasons-why-the-teacher-just-quit?fbclid=IwAR2W1XhLWV28FVQu7jiJZsc0nCno8Xc90rfRXEi5Y4nTzaEknOzQue7lWQA
Here are a few reasons.
3, 5,6 and 13 are the ones that get me contemplating quitting....MS teacher.
I am sorry.
For #6, the being labeled as a babysitter- it always seems a bit odd to me that teachers are so offended by this. It's wrong, but is it such a terrible misperception?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I hope she does. No job is worth sacrificing your mental health. I’m a teacher who just quit. I gave my required notice and I feel much lighter. I already have another job lined up.
Teaching is not the priesthood. If people are unhappy with compensation and working conditions, they are free to leave. Including teachers. [/quote
Good. It is in no one's interest to have people in teaching roles that aren't in a position to do those jobs effectively. We may need more teachers to quit to really lead to the kinds of changes that are necessary. Band-Aids like adding days off or slightly increasing across-the-board pay isn't going to do it.
Yeah, good luck with that. There isn’t a line of eager beaver newly minted young teachers just chomping at the bit to replace them under these conditions,
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How could anyone have predicted that closing schools for 12-18 months would have negative consequences? Oh wait...
Seriously. I don't understand why the schools and teachers thought the kids were going to be ok. News Flash: They're not ok.
Why is it the responsibility of the school to “help and/or fix” them, that is the parents primary responsibility.
Hmmm, because they broke them by remaining closed well after most workplaces opened back up? Kids were left alone and still expected to complete academic work. Because the pandemic showed the true dysfunction of the public school system and the safety backstops which had been reliant on open school buildings were suddenly gone from so many who depended on them?
Because parents love and want the best for their kids but if your life is built around the legally obligated reality that your child has to be in a school building for 6+ hours a day, then, well it takes a lot to transition to another plan when suddenly that building closes. Fair enough. When it’s clear that you are caught in the middle of a battle between the BOEs and teachers unions, you lose the ability to cope through that transition. Only to be forced to transition again even though most businesses, bars, restaurants and federal IC buildings are open for business as usual?
Schools play a vital role in our community. More than education. Or they did until they made it clear they only want to provide education whether or not anyone learns and aren’t responsible for any of the other roles they’ve played in the past.
Anonymous wrote:How could anyone have predicted that closing schools for 12-18 months would have negative consequences? Oh wait...
Anonymous wrote:It’s a hard year for sure but that’s what happens when kids are out of school for so long. I think many teachers switching to private industry may be in fro a rude awakening (or not, just depends on what you value). I find the “go volunteer” comments very privileged. Most parents have their own jobs w little leave time that must be reserved for the excessive quarantines going on. My kids teacher is fantastic and I’m so grateful when I read posts like this. Btw, totally agree teachers should be paid way more but when you extrapolate their salaries on an annual basis it’s pretty on par for entry level for most professions, except no pensions, shitty benefits, or job protection. Still, they should be paid more. The teachers on forums taking about not being babaysitters have really contributed to the toxicity w parents. And it’s pretty demeaning to childcare workers.
Anonymous wrote:The teachers who are quitting are the ones you do not want to lose. They are the ones who care the most, who try the most, who do the most for your kids.
My school has had four of those kinds of teachers quit already this year, and our students are worse off for it.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How could anyone have predicted that closing schools for 12-18 months would have negative consequences? Oh wait...
Seriously. I don't understand why the schools and teachers thought the kids were going to be ok. News Flash: They're not ok.
Why is it the responsibility of the school to “help and/or fix” them, that is the parents primary responsibility.
On my grade level team we have never been stretched so thin. I know I am looking for a job outside of teaching, and I know I am not the only one. I have subbed more times this school year that in my 8 previous years combined - easily.
Seriously. I don't understand why the schools and teachers thought the kids were going to be ok. News Flash: They're not ok.
The teachers who are quitting are the ones you do not want to lose. They are the ones who care the most, who try the most, who do the most for your kids.
My school has had four of those kinds of teachers quit already this year, and our students are worse off for it.