Anonymous
12/06/2021 20:55
Subject: Re:Cancelling trip to see unvaxxed parents
Take the emotions out of it.
Vaccinated persons can get it too. I don't see people clamoring for tests and/or masks in all-vaxed get togethers even though those meetups are just as hazardous.
So OP if you are not interested in making a point or punishing your parents then I'm sure you could come up with a safe way to meet them. It has been 2 years. You know you should go.
Vaccinated persons can get it too. I don't see people clamoring for tests and/or masks in all-vaxed get togethers even though those meetups are just as hazardous.
So OP if you are not interested in making a point or punishing your parents then I'm sure you could come up with a safe way to meet them. It has been 2 years. You know you should go.
Anonymous
12/06/2021 20:43
Subject: Re:Cancelling trip to see unvaxxed parents
*Sorry, fall far from the tree...
Anonymous
12/06/2021 20:40
Subject: Cancelling trip to see unvaxxed parents
Anonymous wrote:We were planning to go visit my parents over Christmas/winter break but I am having major second thoughts. I have not seen them for almost 2 years now thanks to COVID and do feel really badly about that. The main reason I want to cancel is because my parents are unvaccinated and refuse to even consider it since they had mild cases of COVID a year ago. They think it’s no more serious than a cold. The thought of staying with them for a week worries me since they take no precautions for the most part and only wear a mask if it’s enforced. We made the decision to go when case counts were very low and they are definitely on the rise where we are as well as where they live.
The problem is that telling them we aren’t coming because of their vaccination status is going to really offend them - they think we are crazy for being worried and keeping their grandkids away. My mom is very dramatic and will absolutely take it personally. They have tried to come visit us twice but I was able to get out of it since I didn’t want them bringing COVID to us.
What can I do to get out of it without starting world war 3?
Apple didn't all very far from the tree, now did it OP?
Anonymous
12/06/2021 20:38
Subject: Cancelling trip to see unvaxxed parents
Anonymous wrote:OP and all of the PPs suggesting no visits: if you wanted to cut people out of your lives and want to use this as an excuse, go ahead. But stop with the safer than thou Covid theatrics. If you and kids are vaccinated, the risk is to them. Let them deal with risk.
2 of the kids ate too young for the vaccine.
Reading is fundamental.
Anonymous
12/06/2021 20:37
Subject: Re:Cancelling trip to see unvaxxed parents
No I wouldn’t expose my kids to this. We’re lucky that our kids grandparents and relatives would never do anything to harm them. It would to have grandparents like these.
When case counts go down, the OP could visit them on her own or just keep doing FaceTime. One in person visit doesn’t create a relationship anyway. The kids are not missing anything and hopefully OPs in-laws are better grandparents.
When case counts go down, the OP could visit them on her own or just keep doing FaceTime. One in person visit doesn’t create a relationship anyway. The kids are not missing anything and hopefully OPs in-laws are better grandparents.
Anonymous
12/06/2021 20:26
Subject: Cancelling trip to see unvaxxed parents
OP and all of the PPs suggesting no visits: if you wanted to cut people out of your lives and want to use this as an excuse, go ahead. But stop with the safer than thou Covid theatrics. If you and kids are vaccinated, the risk is to them. Let them deal with risk.
Anonymous
12/06/2021 19:44
Subject: Cancelling trip to see unvaxxed parents
People really need to stop framing these decisions as "expose myself to people who could get me sick" (now) or "never see the people I love the most again."
Yes, Covid will likely be with us for a long time.
However, we have good vaccines that significantly reduce severe disease that should be available to all ages in a matter of months. We're also on the cusp - possibly by a matter of weeks - of having some new, very effective treatments that are comparatively easy to administer and appear (at least at this stage) to be effective against variants.
And if we're very, very lucky, omichron will be the mild mutation scientists have predicted that pushes the more virulent forms of Covid off scene.
So, the choices aren't "now" or "never;" but rather, "now" or "next year."
Keep it in perspective.
Yes, Covid will likely be with us for a long time.
However, we have good vaccines that significantly reduce severe disease that should be available to all ages in a matter of months. We're also on the cusp - possibly by a matter of weeks - of having some new, very effective treatments that are comparatively easy to administer and appear (at least at this stage) to be effective against variants.
And if we're very, very lucky, omichron will be the mild mutation scientists have predicted that pushes the more virulent forms of Covid off scene.
So, the choices aren't "now" or "never;" but rather, "now" or "next year."
Keep it in perspective.
Anonymous
12/06/2021 19:17
Subject: Cancelling trip to see unvaxxed parents
If everyone stopped visiting, socializing and communicating with their nasty unvaccinated relatives, I bet they'd be much more willing to get their shots...
...stop enabling them.
...stop enabling them.
Anonymous
12/06/2021 19:09
Subject: Cancelling trip to see unvaxxed parents
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Do you plan on never seeing your parents again? Because COVID is not going to go away.
If you and your kids are vaccinated I would find a way to make the visit feasible.
And I say this as someone who is fully vaccinated and works in healthcare.
This. You need to go.
I'm not planning on rewarding anyone dumb and nasty enough to have put people's lives in danger (perhaps passing on Covid without realizing it and killing someone down the chain of transmission). I am perfectly fine not seeing such people every again.
Anonymous
12/06/2021 18:59
Subject: Cancelling trip to see unvaxxed parents
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Do you plan on never seeing your parents again? Because COVID is not going to go away.
If you and your kids are vaccinated I would find a way to make the visit feasible.
And I say this as someone who is fully vaccinated and works in healthcare.
This. You need to go.
Why should OP bring her unvaccinated kids around her plague rat family? Per OP’s follow up, 2 of her 3 kids are too young for the vaccine. Why should op be the bigger person especially when it comes to her kids health?
She doesn't have to, but she should accept that she probably won't see her parents for years if her plan is until COVID is over or until her kids are vaccinated. There are ways to see unvaccinated family, many people learned how to do this before vaccines existed, Did you forget that phase?
Anonymous
12/06/2021 18:52
Subject: Cancelling trip to see unvaxxed parents
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Do you plan on never seeing your parents again? Because COVID is not going to go away.
If you and your kids are vaccinated I would find a way to make the visit feasible.
And I say this as someone who is fully vaccinated and works in healthcare.
This. You need to go.
Why should OP bring her unvaccinated kids around her plague rat family? Per OP’s follow up, 2 of her 3 kids are too young for the vaccine. Why should op be the bigger person especially when it comes to her kids health?
Anonymous
12/06/2021 16:37
Subject: Cancelling trip to see unvaxxed parents
Anonymous wrote:Do you plan on never seeing your parents again? Because COVID is not going to go away.
If you and your kids are vaccinated I would find a way to make the visit feasible.
And I say this as someone who is fully vaccinated and works in healthcare.
This. You need to go.
Anonymous
12/06/2021 16:32
Subject: Cancelling trip to see unvaxxed parents
Has there been any update for the timeline for EUA for the <5 kids? At this point, if it's been almost two years, why not go visit them after the kids are vaxxed, outside the holidays where you don't have to worry about all of the other gatherings. Blame the school/preschool/daycare if needed as to why it's not worth the risk right now.
Anonymous
12/06/2021 16:29
Subject: Re:Cancelling trip to see unvaxxed parents
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If you are vaccinated then I don't understand what you are worried about. Them not being vaccinated shouldn't hurt you.
Did you miss where OP says she has 2 unvaccinated children, and one who will be only partially vaxxed?
Unfortunately, for those of us with very young children, this is still a consideration. Especially with required quarantines if those children become close contacts to covid.
OP have you mentioned this issue with your parents? They may never come to an agreement with you on the need for vaccination for health reasons, but the disruption to your lives in terms of missing school and work days due to mandatory quarantine is a real issue. This kind of gets away from the idea of whether they should vaccinate for health reasons (which will launch an argument) and into consequences for you and your family that you legally can’t get out of.
I agree with this, we had to take a similar stand against travelling to visit DH's family earlier this fall (his parents are vaccinated but at the time several other family members were not). A couple of times we got a "but Covid is harmless to kids!" to which DH eventually responded, "even IF that were true, are one of you going to come watch our kids for two weeks if you expose them to Covid?"
Anonymous
12/06/2021 11:18
Subject: Cancelling trip to see unvaxxed parents
Anonymous wrote:Everyone isolate and take a rapid PCR test on day 3-5, then meet up. In between don’t expose yourself to tons of people. That’s better than vaccinating for knowing if someone has it.
The problem with this idea is that OP’s trip as per her update involves many more family members gathering indoors than just her parents, who might agree to said testing. Unless all of those people are testing and then isolating after testing, this isn’t going to help her much.