Anonymous
12/01/2021 10:38
Subject: Montgomery County - unaccompanied children children headlines
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Glad we are taking them. Imagine how bad their lives were if their parents were willing to risk everything to send them here.
Meanwhile 0% of American children in Baltimore have no proficiency in basic math, live in squalor, and didn't even have heating in their schools. Yes, I'm oh so glad we continue to take in thkusands and millions of citizens from other countries while our own citizens suffer. Imagine how bad our own child citizens lives are in cities like Baltimore, Chicago, Detroit, etc. There are American kids who grow up everyday without running water, food, or stable housing. Sorry for not caring about other countries' citizens at the moment.
Stop making up stuff.
Who's making up what now?
https://foxbaltimore.com/news/project-baltimore/13-baltimore-city-high-schools-zero-students-proficient-in-math
https://twitter.com/KadhimWrites/status/948373485490987008?s=20
But yes, let's open the floodgates to minors from foreign countries while our own citizens have to go to schools with no heat or to terrible high schools where none of them are.tsihht to have a proficient level of math. Every dollar spent on ESL classes and other remedial education for foreign nationals here illegally is a dollar not spent on improving those schools in Baltimore for our own citizens.
+1 million
There is not an unlimited supply of funding, despite what the Democrats want to pretend.
Anyone who has been paying attention can see this playing out in MCPS right now.
Before the influx of unaccompanied minors, what was the education gap like in MCPS?
Are you being serious? In MCPS? Look at the statistics.
Yes, I'm being serious.
Some people seem to think that the influx of these kids are causing the education gap in poor black students. So, I am asking the logical question: before the influx of these kids, what was the education gap like in MCPS?
If the gap existed prior to these kids coming into MCPS, then the gap is not due to these kids.
If it didn't exist prior to these kids coming here, the gap may or may not be related. Correlation is not the same as causation. However, there could be some connection there.
MoCo has always been a wealthy county. Some 20 years ago, prior to the influx of these kids, what was the education gap like? I'm not originally from MoCo so that's why I'm asking the question.
Anonymous
12/01/2021 10:31
Subject: Montgomery County - unaccompanied children children headlines
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:Let me guess. Higher taxes soon because there are no more seats in our schools, amirite?
MCPS has 162,680 students. 1,200 unaccompanied minors is less than 1%. If there are no more seats it is hardly the fault of these kids.
Except thaat's in less than one year with no end in sight.. Multiply the problem by 10 years. Illegal immigration has been going on for decades in MoCo and it is already straining the county's resources. That's 1,200 more seats taxpayers have to pay for to educate foreign nationals from another country. Every dollar spent on another country's child is a dollar not spent on our own children.
Before this goes any further, as an international family, I have to ask you to use the term "undocumented immigrant".
My children have dual citizenship. We are foreigners on visas living in Bethesda and pay all our taxes here. Most foreigners in this area are here LEGALLY and pay into the system. The next time you see a child with an accent in your children's school, don't assume they are undocumented.
Also, as someone who has had to jump through an incredible number of ridiculously complex and expensive hoops to stay legally in this country, I harbor no resentment whatsoever against innocent CHILDREN. They have fled gang violence and extreme poverty, I don't blame their parents either for doing their best to ensure a better future for them.
The USA has the means to welcome immigrants of all types. It has the space. It's true our MoCo public schools are burdened right now, but as someone involved in PTA efforts, I can tell you that the burden comes from domestic influx into certain specific areas of Montgomery County. Not foreign.
What are you blathering about? No one cares about immigrants here LEGALLY. My dad is a naturalized citizen who followed the law for immigration. So is my wife. The problem are illegal immigrants. No, I will not use 'undocumented immigrants' to describe people who break our laws, because that's the very definition of illegal immigration. I literally have POC blood running through my veins, because of my dad. Illegal immigration is illegal immigration.
Under what world laws are countries supposed to open their borders to those fleeing crime and poverty? Newsflash: there's about 4 billion people in the world who'd fit that bill. So what, is the US a few countries in Europe, Australia, NZ, Canada, South Korea, Japan and a few other countries supposed to let in billions of people with no control? It is not the responsibility of first world nations to open their borders every time a person wants to flee crime and poverty from their home country. Countries need to fix themselves through effective governments and a well built economy. There are no laws whatsoever that require countries to offer asylum to people fleeing crime. If people want better opportunities to escape poverty and crime, they can apply with the UCIS just like everyone else. Just like my dad. Just like my wife.
Pffff, Chicago and Baltimore have murder rates on par with Iraq. Why aren't you screaming about offering children who grow up in those cities asylum from their own damn poverty?
+1 million
I am also the child of LEGAL immigrants.
The only people who support illegal immigration are those who stand to benefit from it. Benefit from the cheap, endless labor source. Or benefit from the inexpensive housekeeper/manicurist/nanny.
It is better for people to immigrate here legally. Don’t pretend that welcoming illegal immigrants is compassionate and kind. It is very much the opposite.
Anonymous
12/01/2021 10:27
Subject: Montgomery County - unaccompanied children children headlines
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:Let me guess. Higher taxes soon because there are no more seats in our schools, amirite?
MCPS has 162,680 students. 1,200 unaccompanied minors is less than 1%. If there are no more seats it is hardly the fault of these kids.
Except thaat's in less than one year with no end in sight.. Multiply the problem by 10 years. Illegal immigration has been going on for decades in MoCo and it is already straining the county's resources. That's 1,200 more seats taxpayers have to pay for to educate foreign nationals from another country. Every dollar spent on another country's child is a dollar not spent on our own children.
Then maybe we should fix the immigration and refugee problem that leads to the children being unaccompanied so that their tax-paying, labor-providing parents come along, too. Seems like a win-win. In addition to not being terrible.
I completely agree that we should fix the immigration problem.
Allowing adults to come along and welcoming MORE undocumented immigrants is not the way to go about it.
You know what would be a win-win? Stop all illegal immigration and no amnesty. Increase the number of legal immigrants and make the process easier and more straightforward. Quit rewarding people for entering the country illegally and sending their kids here unaccompanied. Also crack down hard on employers who are employing undocumented immigrants.
Anonymous
12/01/2021 10:26
Subject: Montgomery County - unaccompanied children children headlines
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:Let me guess. Higher taxes soon because there are no more seats in our schools, amirite?
MCPS has 162,680 students. 1,200 unaccompanied minors is less than 1%. If there are no more seats it is hardly the fault of these kids.
Except thaat's in less than one year with no end in sight.. Multiply the problem by 10 years. Illegal immigration has been going on for decades in MoCo and it is already straining the county's resources. That's 1,200 more seats taxpayers have to pay for to educate foreign nationals from another country. Every dollar spent on another country's child is a dollar not spent on our own children.
Before this goes any further, as an international family, I have to ask you to use the term "undocumented immigrant".
My children have dual citizenship. We are foreigners on visas living in Bethesda and pay all our taxes here. Most foreigners in this area are here LEGALLY and pay into the system. The next time you see a child with an accent in your children's school, don't assume they are undocumented.
Also, as someone who has had to jump through an incredible number of ridiculously complex and expensive hoops to stay legally in this country, I harbor no resentment whatsoever against innocent CHILDREN. They have fled gang violence and extreme poverty, I don't blame their parents either for doing their best to ensure a better future for them.
The USA has the means to welcome immigrants of all types. It has the space. It's true our MoCo public schools are burdened right now, but as someone involved in PTA efforts, I can tell you that the burden comes from domestic influx into certain specific areas of Montgomery County. Not foreign.
What are you blathering about? No one cares about immigrants here LEGALLY. My dad is a naturalized citizen who followed the law for immigration. So is my wife. The problem are illegal immigrants. No, I will not use 'undocumented immigrants' to describe people who break our laws, because that's the very definition of illegal immigration. I literally have POC blood running through my veins, because of my dad. Illegal immigration is illegal immigration.
Under what world laws are countries supposed to open their borders to those fleeing crime and poverty? Newsflash: there's about 4 billion people in the world who'd fit that bill. So what, is the US a few countries in Europe, Australia, NZ, Canada, South Korea, Japan and a few other countries supposed to let in billions of people with no control? It is not the responsibility of first world nations to open their borders every time a person wants to flee crime and poverty from their home country. Countries need to fix themselves through effective governments and a well built economy. There are no laws whatsoever that require countries to offer asylum to people fleeing crime. If people want better opportunities to escape poverty and crime, they can apply with the UCIS just like everyone else. Just like my dad. Just like my wife.
Pffff, Chicago and Baltimore have murder rates on par with Iraq. Why aren't you screaming about offering children who grow up in those cities asylum from their own damn poverty?
Anonymous
12/01/2021 10:25
Subject: Montgomery County - unaccompanied children children headlines
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Glad we are taking them. Imagine how bad their lives were if their parents were willing to risk everything to send them here.
Meanwhile 0% of American children in Baltimore have no proficiency in basic math, live in squalor, and didn't even have heating in their schools. Yes, I'm oh so glad we continue to take in thkusands and millions of citizens from other countries while our own citizens suffer. Imagine how bad our own child citizens lives are in cities like Baltimore, Chicago, Detroit, etc. There are American kids who grow up everyday without running water, food, or stable housing. Sorry for not caring about other countries' citizens at the moment.
Stop making up stuff.
Who's making up what now?
https://foxbaltimore.com/news/project-baltimore/13-baltimore-city-high-schools-zero-students-proficient-in-math
https://twitter.com/KadhimWrites/status/948373485490987008?s=20
But yes, let's open the floodgates to minors from foreign countries while our own citizens have to go to schools with no heat or to terrible high schools where none of them are.tsihht to have a proficient level of math. Every dollar spent on ESL classes and other remedial education for foreign nationals here illegally is a dollar not spent on improving those schools in Baltimore for our own citizens.
+1 million
There is not an unlimited supply of funding, despite what the Democrats want to pretend.
Anyone who has been paying attention can see this playing out in MCPS right now.
Before the influx of unaccompanied minors, what was the education gap like in MCPS?
Are you being serious? In MCPS? Look at the statistics.
Anonymous
12/01/2021 10:13
Subject: Montgomery County - unaccompanied children children headlines
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Every single person living here had a distant relative immigrate here to get away from some hellish situation back home. Where is your compassion for humanity? I am horrified by the responses and hope you are but a few trolls and not what most of the county thinks/believes.
Oh, that’s not true at all.
I live in Silver Spring and my kids go to a Title 1 School, so we are friendly with several undocumented families and they are our neighbors.
They are not escaping some ‘hellish’ situation. They came here to make some cash. Money. That’s it. That’s the motivation. And they go back every few years, so they are clearly not afraid of being in their countries.
It is only a very, very small percentage of asylum seekers who are truly afraid to live in their own countries. Many of the them are simply looking for better economic opportunities.
I doubt they trust you with the details of their previous life. I doubt you know who is documented and who is not.
Of course. You can’t really dispute the fact that most of the families are here solely for their own economic benefit, and so you try to pretend I’m not telling the truth.
What neighborhood do you live in where you don’t know your neighbors and your kids’ friends? That’s actually a bit sad. Must be a wealthy neighborhood?
For those of us who live in regular middle-class, LMC neighborhoods, we do actually know the families in our community.
Anonymous
12/01/2021 10:03
Subject: Montgomery County - unaccompanied children children headlines
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Every single person living here had a distant relative immigrate here to get away from some hellish situation back home. Where is your compassion for humanity? I am horrified by the responses and hope you are but a few trolls and not what most of the county thinks/believes.
Oh, that’s not true at all.
I live in Silver Spring and my kids go to a Title 1 School, so we are friendly with several undocumented families and they are our neighbors.
They are not escaping some ‘hellish’ situation. They came here to make some cash. Money. That’s it. That’s the motivation. And they go back every few years, so they are clearly not afraid of being in their countries.
It is only a very, very small percentage of asylum seekers who are truly afraid to live in their own countries. Many of the them are simply looking for better economic opportunities.
I doubt they trust you with the details of their previous life. I doubt you know who is documented and who is not.
Anonymous
12/01/2021 10:00
Subject: Montgomery County - unaccompanied children children headlines
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:Let me guess. Higher taxes soon because there are no more seats in our schools, amirite?
MCPS has 162,680 students. 1,200 unaccompanied minors is less than 1%. If there are no more seats it is hardly the fault of these kids.
Except thaat's in less than one year with no end in sight.. Multiply the problem by 10 years. Illegal immigration has been going on for decades in MoCo and it is already straining the county's resources. That's 1,200 more seats taxpayers have to pay for to educate foreign nationals from another country. Every dollar spent on another country's child is a dollar not spent on our own children.
Before this goes any further, as an international family, I have to ask you to use the term "undocumented immigrant".
My children have dual citizenship. We are foreigners on visas living in Bethesda and pay all our taxes here. Most foreigners in this area are here LEGALLY and pay into the system. The next time you see a child with an accent in your children's school, don't assume they are undocumented.
Also, as someone who has had to jump through an incredible number of ridiculously complex and expensive hoops to stay legally in this country, I harbor no resentment whatsoever against innocent CHILDREN. They have fled gang violence and extreme poverty, I don't blame their parents either for doing their best to ensure a better future for them.
The USA has the means to welcome immigrants of all types. It has the space. It's true our MoCo public schools are burdened right now, but as someone involved in PTA efforts, I can tell you that the burden comes from domestic influx into certain specific areas of Montgomery County. Not foreign.
Which school cluster are you in?
I am in a nonW cluster and that is not true AT ALL. There has been a huge shift in our ES over the past 15 years, and it is definitely not due to wealthy immigrants.
Anonymous
12/01/2021 09:58
Subject: Montgomery County - unaccompanied children children headlines
Anonymous wrote:Every single person living here had a distant relative immigrate here to get away from some hellish situation back home. Where is your compassion for humanity? I am horrified by the responses and hope you are but a few trolls and not what most of the county thinks/believes.
Oh, that’s not true at all.
I live in Silver Spring and my kids go to a Title 1 School, so we are friendly with several undocumented families and they are our neighbors.
They are not escaping some ‘hellish’ situation. They came here to make some cash. Money. That’s it. That’s the motivation. And they go back every few years, so they are clearly not afraid of being in their countries.
It is only a very, very small percentage of asylum seekers who are truly afraid to live in their own countries. Many of the them are simply looking for better economic opportunities.
Anonymous
12/01/2021 09:56
Subject: Montgomery County - unaccompanied children children headlines
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Glad we are taking them. Imagine how bad their lives were if their parents were willing to risk everything to send them here.
Meanwhile 0% of American children in Baltimore have no proficiency in basic math, live in squalor, and didn't even have heating in their schools. Yes, I'm oh so glad we continue to take in thkusands and millions of citizens from other countries while our own citizens suffer. Imagine how bad our own child citizens lives are in cities like Baltimore, Chicago, Detroit, etc. There are American kids who grow up everyday without running water, food, or stable housing. Sorry for not caring about other countries' citizens at the moment.
Stop making up stuff.
Who's making up what now?
https://foxbaltimore.com/news/project-baltimore/13-baltimore-city-high-schools-zero-students-proficient-in-math
https://twitter.com/KadhimWrites/status/948373485490987008?s=20
But yes, let's open the floodgates to minors from foreign countries while our own citizens have to go to schools with no heat or to terrible high schools where none of them are.tsihht to have a proficient level of math. Every dollar spent on ESL classes and other remedial education for foreign nationals here illegally is a dollar not spent on improving those schools in Baltimore for our own citizens.
+1 million
There is not an unlimited supply of funding, despite what the Democrats want to pretend.
Anyone who has been paying attention can see this playing out in MCPS right now.
Before the influx of unaccompanied minors, what was the education gap like in MCPS?
Anonymous
12/01/2021 09:55
Subject: Montgomery County - unaccompanied children children headlines
Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:Let me guess. Higher taxes soon because there are no more seats in our schools, amirite?
MCPS has 162,680 students. 1,200 unaccompanied minors is less than 1%. If there are no more seats it is hardly the fault of these kids.
Except thaat's in less than one year with no end in sight.. Multiply the problem by 10 years. Illegal immigration has been going on for decades in MoCo and it is already straining the county's resources. That's 1,200 more seats taxpayers have to pay for to educate foreign nationals from another country. Every dollar spent on another country's child is a dollar not spent on our own children.
Before this goes any further, as an international family, I have to ask you to use the term "undocumented immigrant".
My children have dual citizenship. We are foreigners on visas living in Bethesda and pay all our taxes here. Most foreigners in this area are here LEGALLY and pay into the system. The next time you see a child with an accent in your children's school, don't assume they are undocumented.
Also, as someone who has had to jump through an incredible number of ridiculously complex and expensive hoops to stay legally in this country, I harbor no resentment whatsoever against innocent CHILDREN. They have fled gang violence and extreme poverty, I don't blame their parents either for doing their best to ensure a better future for them.
The USA has the means to welcome immigrants of all types. It has the space. It's true our MoCo public schools are burdened right now, but as someone involved in PTA efforts, I can tell you that the burden comes from domestic influx into certain specific areas of Montgomery County. Not foreign.
Anonymous
12/01/2021 09:53
Subject: Montgomery County - unaccompanied children children headlines
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Glad we are taking them. Imagine how bad their lives were if their parents were willing to risk everything to send them here.
Meanwhile 0% of American children in Baltimore have no proficiency in basic math, live in squalor, and didn't even have heating in their schools. Yes, I'm oh so glad we continue to take in thkusands and millions of citizens from other countries while our own citizens suffer. Imagine how bad our own child citizens lives are in cities like Baltimore, Chicago, Detroit, etc. There are American kids who grow up everyday without running water, food, or stable housing. Sorry for not caring about other countries' citizens at the moment.
Stop making up stuff.
Who's making up what now?
https://foxbaltimore.com/news/project-baltimore/13-baltimore-city-high-schools-zero-students-proficient-in-math
https://twitter.com/KadhimWrites/status/948373485490987008?s=20
But yes, let's open the floodgates to minors from foreign countries while our own citizens have to go to schools with no heat or to terrible high schools where none of them are.tsihht to have a proficient level of math. Every dollar spent on ESL classes and other remedial education for foreign nationals here illegally is a dollar not spent on improving those schools in Baltimore for our own citizens.
+1 million
There is not an unlimited supply of funding, despite what the Democrats want to pretend.
Anyone who has been paying attention can see this playing out in MCPS right now.
Anonymous
12/01/2021 09:44
Subject: Montgomery County - unaccompanied children children headlines
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Glad we are taking them. Imagine how bad their lives were if their parents were willing to risk everything to send them here.
Meanwhile 0% of American children in Baltimore have no proficiency in basic math, live in squalor, and didn't even have heating in their schools. Yes, I'm oh so glad we continue to take in thkusands and millions of citizens from other countries while our own citizens suffer. Imagine how bad our own child citizens lives are in cities like Baltimore, Chicago, Detroit, etc. There are American kids who grow up everyday without running water, food, or stable housing. Sorry for not caring about other countries' citizens at the moment.
Nah, you don't care either.
Headlines: US stops all immigration and as a result all black students in Baltimore closed the education gap!
Anonymous
12/01/2021 09:42
Subject: Re:Montgomery County - unaccompanied children children headlines
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:They are not illegally here, they use a legal means of coming to the US, it's called asylum.
The majority are coming to live with family.
Give me a break. Everyone knows what s farcical loophole they're exploiting. What political persecution are they fleeing. More specifically, please explain how one can seek asylum from their country of origin after passing over multiple countries even prior to the getting into the US? We all know they're economic migrants fleeing for economic opportunity. Under no world laws are countries required to let in immigrants who are seeking better economic opportunities. If they want better economic opportunities they can get in line like everyone else at UCIS.
THE LINE IS A LIE. For these people, except for asylum, there is literally no other legal path to immigration - our admissions policies are too severe.
Anonymous
12/01/2021 09:20
Subject: Montgomery County - unaccompanied children children headlines
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Glad we are taking them. Imagine how bad their lives were if their parents were willing to risk everything to send them here.
Meanwhile 0% of American children in Baltimore have no proficiency in basic math, live in squalor, and didn't even have heating in their schools. Yes, I'm oh so glad we continue to take in thkusands and millions of citizens from other countries while our own citizens suffer. Imagine how bad our own child citizens lives are in cities like Baltimore, Chicago, Detroit, etc. There are American kids who grow up everyday without running water, food, or stable housing. Sorry for not caring about other countries' citizens at the moment.
Nah, you don't care either.