The same logic on here about college prestige applies to soccer prestige as well. You don't need to go to some elite club that plays in some elite league. You don't need the ivy league and you don't need the ecnl league.

A degree from an Ivy or "top school" is fine and good for kids that get that - it is a great accomplishment. You do not have to have a degree from these elite schools to be successful. Far from it. I graduated from a state school (Longwood) and will be retired in the next year before the age 50. It is all about how you apply yourself and drive results. You make your own opportunities from there. The "elite school" degree may help you get more initial looks out of college, or better starts but do not guarantee any type of success. I managed handfuls of MIT, Stanford and Ivy grads along the way. In the end, ability and results will lead the way and not what school is on your degree. I started at an entry level role and made it happen over 20+ years. If you can't perform, it does not matter where you graduated from and others will surpass you along the way- even if their degree was from "less elite" schools.

Anonymous wrote:Yea. Try to go bulge bracket IB with a soccer scholarship from NC State. Rather do club at Cornell.

But but but the majority of kids are not going to be an investment bankers

If that’s is their goal, then I agree with you. But
Most are getting trash degrees…even at prestigious schools

Yea. Try to go bulge bracket IB with a soccer scholarship from NC State. Rather do club at Cornell.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is no top 50 ECNL player that is not committed. I think you are just over estimating the player's rank. College coaches surely don't see her that high.

if you look at topdrawer soccer there are a lot of top 50 players not committed

All 2022 girls in the top 50 on Topdrawer are committed.

Anonymous wrote:You folks are unbelievably uneducated on college options. Most of the top programs are strong academically. UVA, Stanford, Duke, UCLA, UT, UM, UNC, ND, Harvard, Georgetown, USC, WF, Bucknell, Princeton and Brown are all NCAA tournament programs. Others like Vandy (SEC), Navy (Patriot) and Northwestern (SEC) put together competitive teams.

If you are academically focused you can find great matches among the elite soccer programs. Even among DIII programs, you can find schools like MIT and Emory that compete at a high level while offering elite academics.

I take all my advice from people who think Northwestern is in the SEC.

I hope colleges become obsolete and is replaced with internships where kids get paid and learn real world skills.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^^A woke response.

Tell a tech or research company that they should take the 'A' student at NC State over the 'A' Student at Stanford. Not happening. I wouldn't be surprised if the PP is an Ivy grad who is trying to encourage people to go to state school to limit competition for their DC.

Tech companies are hiring kids from overseas at six figures because American kids are getting trash degrees that put them 120,000 in debit. That’s big facts.

You can shell out top dollar for the same degree easily obtained elsewhere for much less? That’s your priority. Some of the most successful people I’ve been around are from state schools….because most of them are sociable and well rounded individuals.

Yes, and this trend is accelerating. Employers are also on to the undergrad programs that are seeing decreasing rigor, as are grad programs. Grad school test scores are the reality check on the crazy grade inflation that we are seeing in “elite” undergrad colleges.

Anonymous wrote:^^^A woke response.

Tell a tech or research company that they should take the 'A' student at NC State over the 'A' Student at Stanford. Not happening. I wouldn't be surprised if the PP is an Ivy grad who is trying to encourage people to go to state school to limit competition for their DC.

They are generally not applying for the same jobs and they are not looking too hard at your grades in any event. Evaluations are very much done on other bases. Undergrad degrees simply don’t matter that much.

Where did Larry Page go undergrad? Where did Steve Wozniak or Paul Allen go? Where did Bill Gates and Steve Jobs graduate?

I interview and hire plenty of people. You don’t know what you are talking about so stop telling people what to do, please. Talent always finds a way.

Anonymous wrote:I know many girls that did not want to play beyond high school. Burn out and no desire to go pro.

They want a “normal” college life and not the “job” that a college sport really is.

+1

Can you blame them?

Anonymous wrote:^^^A woke response.

Tell a tech or research company that they should take the 'A' student at NC State over the 'A' Student at Stanford. Not happening. I wouldn't be surprised if the PP is an Ivy grad who is trying to encourage people to go to state school to limit competition for their DC.

Tech companies are hiring kids from overseas at six figures because American kids are getting trash degrees that put them 120,000 in debit. That’s big facts.

You can shell out top dollar for the same degree easily obtained elsewhere for much less? That’s your priority. Some of the most successful people I’ve been around are from state schools….because most of them are sociable and well rounded individuals.

Anonymous wrote:You folks are unbelievably uneducated on college options. Most of the top programs are strong academically. UVA, Stanford, Duke, UCLA, UT, UM, UNC, ND, Harvard, Georgetown, USC, WF, Bucknell, Princeton and Brown are all NCAA tournament programs. Others like Vandy (SEC), Navy (Patriot) and Northwestern (SEC) put together competitive teams.

If you are academically focused you can find great matches among the elite soccer programs. Even among DIII programs, you can find schools like MIT and Emory that compete at a high level while offering elite academics.

MIT and Emory are great but I am positive our club would prefer a player go D1. Of course , they can go jump in a lake if Emory or MIT recruits my player, but that is without the greatest support from our particular club.

^^^A woke response.

Tell a tech or research company that they should take the 'A' student at NC State over the 'A' Student at Stanford. Not happening. I wouldn't be surprised if the PP is an Ivy grad who is trying to encourage people to go to state school to limit competition for their DC.

You will find brilliant — and not-so-brilliant — people anywhere you go. The college someone attended doesn’t necessarily make them promising professionals or person. This is good news. For all the disappointed high school seniors rejected by their tier-one dream school, settling into your “safety school” — a term I sincerely despise — might not be such a terrible thing. You’ll still learn a lot — and employers are far more interested in the skills you’ve gained in college than where you got them. Are you good at writing? Are you a good team player? Do you have a niche, in-demand skill like social media marketing or programming? If you don’t have these skills, I have some good news for you — that’s exactly what college is for. These skills are not taught exclusively at the Ivy Leagues or UC schools. They’re taught at most universities and taught well at many. All you need to access these skills, or whatever you want to know or be able to do, is to be engaged in your learning. When you make an effort, the dividends pay off wherever you are.

There is no such thing as “elite academics”