Anonymous
11/19/2021 12:49
Subject: Re:Democratic Presidential Bench
Anonymous wrote:The disrespect being shown to Eric Swalwell in this thread is infuriating.
Lol! It’s odd though, his name crossed my mind a little while ago.
Anonymous
11/19/2021 12:43
Subject: Democratic Presidential Bench
I don't know. It hasn't even been a year. I still have hope that Biden will turn this ship around. 3 years is a long time- anything can happen!
Anonymous
11/19/2021 12:38
Subject: Re:Democratic Presidential Bench
The disrespect being shown to Eric Swalwell in this thread is infuriating.
Anonymous
11/19/2021 12:32
Subject: Re:Democratic Presidential Bench
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This thread only makes me realize how 2024 is a near cert Democratic loss. None of these alternative names have any shot at winning the presidency. Biden was the Hail Mary because there was *no one else* and now with Biden increasingly gone, there is *no one else*. Most of these names are reflections of the bubble you live in, not a pragmatic understanding of the nature of mass appeal and national campaigns.
Disagree. And also folks like you were saying the same in 2020. I think Republicans - and, I will add, far left progressives - think their way of thinking and their preferences is more widespread than it is. Bernie lost twice.
What was being said in 2020?
That Dems were guaranteed to lose, our bench was terrible, we had no hope, Trump was a shoo-in, etc. Dems in disarray.
Anonymous
11/19/2021 12:30
Subject: Re:Democratic Presidential Bench
Anonymous wrote:This thread only makes me realize how 2024 is a near cert Democratic loss. None of these alternative names have any shot at winning the presidency. Biden was the Hail Mary because there was *no one else* and now with Biden increasingly gone, there is *no one else*. Most of these names are reflections of the bubble you live in, not a pragmatic understanding of the nature of mass appeal and national campaigns.
+1 Biden was the lowest common denominator candidate and wow did the democratic machine lurch into panicked overdrive when it appeared Bernie was gaining momentum and had a legitimate shot at the nomination. The machine selected Biden and there’s no way he’s going to make it to 2024 so yea, that bench is empty of national level candidates.
Anonymous
11/19/2021 12:25
Subject: Re:Democratic Presidential Bench
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This thread only makes me realize how 2024 is a near cert Democratic loss. None of these alternative names have any shot at winning the presidency. Biden was the Hail Mary because there was *no one else* and now with Biden increasingly gone, there is *no one else*. Most of these names are reflections of the bubble you live in, not a pragmatic understanding of the nature of mass appeal and national campaigns.
Disagree. And also folks like you were saying the same in 2020. I think Republicans - and, I will add, far left progressives - think their way of thinking and their preferences is more widespread than it is. Bernie lost twice.
What was being said in 2020?
Anonymous
11/19/2021 12:21
Subject: Re:Democratic Presidential Bench
Anonymous wrote:Any good governors, preferably from non coastal states? Otherwise Yang looks interesting to me. I am an Independent and looking for someone with experience of executing whether in government or business.
Yang took his Democratic ball and went home.
Anonymous
11/19/2021 12:09
Subject: Re:Democratic Presidential Bench
Anonymous wrote:This thread only makes me realize how 2024 is a near cert Democratic loss. None of these alternative names have any shot at winning the presidency. Biden was the Hail Mary because there was *no one else* and now with Biden increasingly gone, there is *no one else*. Most of these names are reflections of the bubble you live in, not a pragmatic understanding of the nature of mass appeal and national campaigns.
Disagree. And also folks like you were saying the same in 2020. I think Republicans - and, I will add, far left progressives - think their way of thinking and their preferences is more widespread than it is. Bernie lost twice.
Anonymous
11/19/2021 11:56
Subject: Democratic Presidential Bench
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I still love Amy Klobuchar. I hope she considers running again.
I also love Abigail Spanberger, but she would need a lot more experience before she'd have a remote shot.
Those are the type of democrats that I personally hope are the future of the party.
You and me both.
I think Klobuchar would make an excellent President, but we don't have a great track record of electing people that would actually be excellent at the job. And the sexism. The rumors of her mistreating her staff will still dog her.
Spanberger should be developed as a future leader.
We’re they just rumors?
The point is that I can't think of any male candidate for office that has had stories printed about how he treats his staffers. And that's not because male candidates are paragons of virtue in this area, it's simply not treated as an issue.
Anonymous
11/19/2021 11:52
Subject: Re:Democratic Presidential Bench
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Some internet chatter about Dr. Jill...
Let's hope that stays on the internet...
+1. Both Jill Biden and Michelle Obama are a very dumb idea.
Anonymous
11/19/2021 11:44
Subject: Re:Democratic Presidential Bench
This thread only makes me realize how 2024 is a near cert Democratic loss. None of these alternative names have any shot at winning the presidency. Biden was the Hail Mary because there was *no one else* and now with Biden increasingly gone, there is *no one else*. Most of these names are reflections of the bubble you live in, not a pragmatic understanding of the nature of mass appeal and national campaigns.
Anonymous
11/19/2021 11:41
Subject: Re:Democratic Presidential Bench
Anonymous wrote:Some internet chatter about Dr. Jill...
Let's hope that stays on the internet...
Anonymous
11/19/2021 11:39
Subject: Democratic Presidential Bench
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Probably Newsom. He can win California on Super Tuesday and lock down the SF/tech money.
Ask any Californian who is not very far left and we all hate him with a passion.
Right. But by 2024, most Californians with any sense or means will have already fled to TX, AZ, and or UT. Leaving mostly Newsom voters behind.
Anonymous
11/19/2021 11:36
Subject: Re:Democratic Presidential Bench
I still love Amy Klobuchar. I hope she considers running again.
I also love Abigail Spanberger, but she would need a lot more experience before she'd have a remote shot.
Those are the type of democrats that I personally hope are the future of the party.
I agree with this. And hope that the GOP re-finds its way and recognizes that conservatives like Lisa Murkowski and Liz Cheney have guts and integrity. The Trump bootlickers (which includes pretty much all male Republicans) need to slink away in shame.
We need pragmatists with integrity on both sides to refind the way to reasonable compromises.
Anonymous
11/19/2021 11:29
Subject: Re:Democratic Presidential Bench
Any good governors, preferably from non coastal states? Otherwise Yang looks interesting to me. I am an Independent and looking for someone with experience of executing whether in government or business.