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Anonymous wrote:Thanks all- any specific school names could be helpful (agreed re church ones- but churches can vary a lot too).

I’m sorry that people in this area don’t like moderate conservatives but I don’t like the idea of my very young child being taught that he is evil because he is white and that he should maybe consider being a she (at age 2). I think these are certainly topics to be addressed at a certain age but not in preschool.

I would imagine (and hope) that there are other parents in the area that would prefer the same.

Again, any specific school names would be appreciated.

Move to Alabama.

OP. I don’t appreciate crazy liberals or crazy conservatives. And I’m from here. But thanks for the helpful suggestion!

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Anonymous wrote:Thanks all- any specific school names could be helpful (agreed re church ones- but churches can vary a lot too).

I’m sorry that people in this area don’t like moderate conservatives but I don’t like the idea of my very young child being taught that he is evil because he is white and that he should maybe consider being a she (at age 2). I think these are certainly topics to be addressed at a certain age but not in preschool.

I would imagine (and hope) that there are other parents in the area that would prefer the same.

Again, any specific school names would be appreciated.

Move to Alabama.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a moderate liberal but OP is entitled to choose a preschool that’s fits her kid and family’s needs. Full stop. Some of you crazy liberals are the ones who won’t listen to to any other perspective.
My preschooler did in fact come home from school last week hearing from another kid that Christopher Columbus was an EVIL and HORRIBLE man. (Maybe true but I found it inappropriate to her age). While it’s not part of the curriculum, they hear from the other kids. Its ok for OP to seek out what she wants in a preschool - you all clearly don’t want her in yours.

How the heck is that inappropriate? Christopher Columbus was an EVIL and HORRIBLE man. And I seriously, seriously doubt they put it that way.

Really? He discovered a new continent. What have you done with your life?

DP. He "discovered" a continent that people were already living on, and proceeded to commit genocide. He was criticized in his own time for his actions. But sure, go ahead and glorify him to your kid, ensuring that he/she remains ignorant.

PP- good people do bad things and bad people do good things. This is the story of civilization. Do the means justify the end? Maybe not, but the end is our country, which is pretty great. Not perfect, but pretty great.

Anonymous wrote:Thanks all- any specific school names could be helpful (agreed re church ones- but churches can vary a lot too).

I’m sorry that people in this area don’t like moderate conservatives but I don’t like the idea of my very young child being taught that he is evil because he is white and that he should maybe consider being a she (at age 2). I think these are certainly topics to be addressed at a certain age but not in preschool.

I would imagine (and hope) that there are other parents in the area that would prefer the same.

Again, any specific school names would be appreciated.

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m a moderate liberal but OP is entitled to choose a preschool that’s fits her kid and family’s needs. Full stop. Some of you crazy liberals are the ones who won’t listen to to any other perspective.
My preschooler did in fact come home from school last week hearing from another kid that Christopher Columbus was an EVIL and HORRIBLE man. (Maybe true but I found it inappropriate to her age). While it’s not part of the curriculum, they hear from the other kids. Its ok for OP to seek out what she wants in a preschool - you all clearly don’t want her in yours.

How the heck is that inappropriate? Christopher Columbus was an EVIL and HORRIBLE man. And I seriously, seriously doubt they put it that way.

Really? He discovered a new continent. What have you done with your life?

DP. He "discovered" a continent that people were already living on, and proceeded to commit genocide. He was criticized in his own time for his actions. But sure, go ahead and glorify him to your kid, ensuring that he/she remains ignorant.

I am the OP of Columbus but not the pp. My point was that my four year old has no idea what a continent is yet. Can we start with CC discovered the continent and present the info in age appropriate manner? Not start out screaming “Columbus was a horrible and evil man?”
I know many of you are like “I’m shocked you think they’d say that in a preschool” but some of the other responses on this thread lead me to believe otherwise. These poor kids are….confused. It’s too much info for a preschooler.

Essentially you want your kid to be taught incorrectly and then fix the mistake later, which is what happened to most us old fogies. Isn't it better to start off with correct information and introduce it at an appropriate age? If the true story of CC in 1492 is not age appropriate (as you say, kids haven't learned about continents and can't conceptualize 1492), it is better to not teach Columbus at all than to teach false tales of "history" to children? This isn't folklore or fiction we are discussing; its our history. There was no discovery of a new continent when Columbus messed up his route to India. If the point is to discuss the history of people on this continent, start with the first people known to be here c. 27,000–12,000 years ago when humans crossed the Beringia land bridge. Start by teaching about continents and land masses and human migration (my kid learned about land features in Montessori preschool). Or start in present day, a time concept little kids grasp, with the current map and peoples and work backward, so the kids get to 1492 in about 4th grade. Why would you start in 1492? There is no logic to staring history and geography lessons in 1492.

You guys are just making me realize why OP is smart in her choice.
I want my kid to learn their numbers, letters and socialization and avoid all this bullshit in preschool. If you all need to discuss that CC was evil with your preschoolers, go ahead. I’m not interested.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m a moderate liberal but OP is entitled to choose a preschool that’s fits her kid and family’s needs. Full stop. Some of you crazy liberals are the ones who won’t listen to to any other perspective.
My preschooler did in fact come home from school last week hearing from another kid that Christopher Columbus was an EVIL and HORRIBLE man. (Maybe true but I found it inappropriate to her age). While it’s not part of the curriculum, they hear from the other kids. Its ok for OP to seek out what she wants in a preschool - you all clearly don’t want her in yours.

How the heck is that inappropriate? Christopher Columbus was an EVIL and HORRIBLE man. And I seriously, seriously doubt they put it that way.

Really? He discovered a new continent. What have you done with your life?

DP. He "discovered" a continent that people were already living on, and proceeded to commit genocide. He was criticized in his own time for his actions. But sure, go ahead and glorify him to your kid, ensuring that he/she remains ignorant.

I am the OP of Columbus but not the pp. My point was that my four year old has no idea what a continent is yet. Can we start with CC discovered the continent and present the info in age appropriate manner? Not start out screaming “Columbus was a horrible and evil man?”
I know many of you are like “I’m shocked you think they’d say that in a preschool” but some of the other responses on this thread lead me to believe otherwise. These poor kids are….confused. It’s too much info for a preschooler.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m a moderate liberal but OP is entitled to choose a preschool that’s fits her kid and family’s needs. Full stop. Some of you crazy liberals are the ones who won’t listen to to any other perspective.
My preschooler did in fact come home from school last week hearing from another kid that Christopher Columbus was an EVIL and HORRIBLE man. (Maybe true but I found it inappropriate to her age). While it’s not part of the curriculum, they hear from the other kids. Its ok for OP to seek out what she wants in a preschool - you all clearly don’t want her in yours.

How the heck is that inappropriate? Christopher Columbus was an EVIL and HORRIBLE man. And I seriously, seriously doubt they put it that way.

Really? He discovered a new continent. What have you done with your life?

DP. He "discovered" a continent that people were already living on, and proceeded to commit genocide. He was criticized in his own time for his actions. But sure, go ahead and glorify him to your kid, ensuring that he/she remains ignorant.

I am the OP of Columbus but not the pp. My point was that my four year old has no idea what a continent is yet. Can we start with CC discovered the continent and present the info in age appropriate manner? Not start out screaming “Columbus was a horrible and evil man?”
I know many of you are like “I’m shocked you think they’d say that in a preschool” but some of the other responses on this thread lead me to believe otherwise. These poor kids are….confused. It’s too much info for a preschooler.

Essentially you want your kid to be taught incorrectly and then fix the mistake later, which is what happened to most us old fogies. Isn't it better to start off with correct information and introduce it at an appropriate age? If the true story of CC in 1492 is not age appropriate (as you say, kids haven't learned about continents and can't conceptualize 1492), it is better to not teach Columbus at all than to teach false tales of "history" to children? This isn't folklore or fiction we are discussing; its our history. There was no discovery of a new continent when Columbus messed up his route to India. If the point is to discuss the history of people on this continent, start with the first people known to be here c. 27,000–12,000 years ago when humans crossed the Beringia land bridge. Start by teaching about continents and land masses and human migration (my kid learned about land features in Montessori preschool). Or start in present day, a time concept little kids grasp, with the current map and peoples and work backward, so the kids get to 1492 in about 4th grade. Why would you start in 1492? There is no logic to staring history and geography lessons in 1492.

JFC. I need alcohol, now

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m a moderate liberal but OP is entitled to choose a preschool that’s fits her kid and family’s needs. Full stop. Some of you crazy liberals are the ones who won’t listen to to any other perspective.
My preschooler did in fact come home from school last week hearing from another kid that Christopher Columbus was an EVIL and HORRIBLE man. (Maybe true but I found it inappropriate to her age). While it’s not part of the curriculum, they hear from the other kids. Its ok for OP to seek out what she wants in a preschool - you all clearly don’t want her in yours.

How the heck is that inappropriate? Christopher Columbus was an EVIL and HORRIBLE man. And I seriously, seriously doubt they put it that way.

Really? He discovered a new continent. What have you done with your life?

DP. He "discovered" a continent that people were already living on, and proceeded to commit genocide. He was criticized in his own time for his actions. But sure, go ahead and glorify him to your kid, ensuring that he/she remains ignorant.

I am the OP of Columbus but not the pp. My point was that my four year old has no idea what a continent is yet. Can we start with CC discovered the continent and present the info in age appropriate manner? Not start out screaming “Columbus was a horrible and evil man?”
I know many of you are like “I’m shocked you think they’d say that in a preschool” but some of the other responses on this thread lead me to believe otherwise. These poor kids are….confused. It’s too much info for a preschooler.

Essentially you want your kid to be taught incorrectly and then fix the mistake later, which is what happened to most us old fogies. Isn't it better to start off with correct information and introduce it at an appropriate age? If the true story of CC in 1492 is not age appropriate (as you say, kids haven't learned about continents and can't conceptualize 1492), it is better to not teach Columbus at all than to teach false tales of "history" to children? This isn't folklore or fiction we are discussing; its our history. There was no discovery of a new continent when Columbus messed up his route to India. If the point is to discuss the history of people on this continent, start with the first people known to be here c. 27,000–12,000 years ago when humans crossed the Beringia land bridge. Start by teaching about continents and land masses and human migration (my kid learned about land features in Montessori preschool). Or start in present day, a time concept little kids grasp, with the current map and peoples and work backward, so the kids get to 1492 in about 4th grade. Why would you start in 1492? There is no logic to staring history and geography lessons in 1492.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m a moderate liberal but OP is entitled to choose a preschool that’s fits her kid and family’s needs. Full stop. Some of you crazy liberals are the ones who won’t listen to to any other perspective.
My preschooler did in fact come home from school last week hearing from another kid that Christopher Columbus was an EVIL and HORRIBLE man. (Maybe true but I found it inappropriate to her age). While it’s not part of the curriculum, they hear from the other kids. Its ok for OP to seek out what she wants in a preschool - you all clearly don’t want her in yours.

How the heck is that inappropriate? Christopher Columbus was an EVIL and HORRIBLE man. And I seriously, seriously doubt they put it that way.

Really? He discovered a new continent. What have you done with your life?

DP. He "discovered" a continent that people were already living on, and proceeded to commit genocide. He was criticized in his own time for his actions. But sure, go ahead and glorify him to your kid, ensuring that he/she remains ignorant.

I am the OP of Columbus but not the pp. My point was that my four year old has no idea what a continent is yet. Can we start with CC discovered the continent and present the info in age appropriate manner? Not start out screaming “Columbus was a horrible and evil man?”
I know many of you are like “I’m shocked you think they’d say that in a preschool” but some of the other responses on this thread lead me to believe otherwise. These poor kids are….confused. It’s too much info for a preschooler.

Essentially you want your kid to be taught incorrectly and then fix the mistake later, which is what happened to most us old fogies. Isn't it better to start off with correct information and introduce it at an appropriate age? If the true story of CC in 1492 is not age appropriate (as you say, kids haven't learned about continents and can't conceptualize 1492), it is better to not teach Columbus at all than to teach false tales of "history" to children? This isn't folklore or fiction we are discussing; its our history. There was no discovery of a new continent when Columbus messed up his route to India. If the point is to discuss the history of people on this continent, start with the first people known to be here c. 27,000–12,000 years ago when humans crossed the Beringia land bridge. Start by teaching about continents and land masses and human migration (my kid learned about land features in Montessori preschool). Or start in present day, a time concept little kids grasp, with the current map and peoples and work backward, so the kids get to 1492 in about 4th grade. Why would you start in 1492? There is no logic to staring history and geography lessons in 1492.

You guys are just making me realize why OP is smart in her choice.
I want my kid to learn their numbers, letters and socialization and avoid all this bullshit in preschool. If you all need to discuss that CC was evil with your preschoolers, go ahead. I’m not interested.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m a moderate liberal but OP is entitled to choose a preschool that’s fits her kid and family’s needs. Full stop. Some of you crazy liberals are the ones who won’t listen to to any other perspective.
My preschooler did in fact come home from school last week hearing from another kid that Christopher Columbus was an EVIL and HORRIBLE man. (Maybe true but I found it inappropriate to her age). While it’s not part of the curriculum, they hear from the other kids. Its ok for OP to seek out what she wants in a preschool - you all clearly don’t want her in yours.

How the heck is that inappropriate? Christopher Columbus was an EVIL and HORRIBLE man. And I seriously, seriously doubt they put it that way.

Really? He discovered a new continent. What have you done with your life?

DP. He "discovered" a continent that people were already living on, and proceeded to commit genocide. He was criticized in his own time for his actions. But sure, go ahead and glorify him to your kid, ensuring that he/she remains ignorant.

I am the OP of Columbus but not the pp. My point was that my four year old has no idea what a continent is yet. Can we start with CC discovered the continent and present the info in age appropriate manner? Not start out screaming “Columbus was a horrible and evil man?”
I know many of you are like “I’m shocked you think they’d say that in a preschool” but some of the other responses on this thread lead me to believe otherwise. These poor kids are….confused. It’s too much info for a preschooler.

Essentially you want your kid to be taught incorrectly and then fix the mistake later, which is what happened to most us old fogies. Isn't it better to start off with correct information and introduce it at an appropriate age? If the true story of CC in 1492 is not age appropriate (as you say, kids haven't learned about continents and can't conceptualize 1492), it is better to not teach Columbus at all than to teach false tales of "history" to children? This isn't folklore or fiction we are discussing; its our history. There was no discovery of a new continent when Columbus messed up his route to India. If the point is to discuss the history of people on this continent, start with the first people known to be here c. 27,000–12,000 years ago when humans crossed the Beringia land bridge. Start by teaching about continents and land masses and human migration (my kid learned about land features in Montessori preschool). Or start in present day, a time concept little kids grasp, with the current map and peoples and work backward, so the kids get to 1492 in about 4th grade. Why would you start in 1492? There is no logic to staring history and geography lessons in 1492.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m a moderate liberal but OP is entitled to choose a preschool that’s fits her kid and family’s needs. Full stop. Some of you crazy liberals are the ones who won’t listen to to any other perspective.
My preschooler did in fact come home from school last week hearing from another kid that Christopher Columbus was an EVIL and HORRIBLE man. (Maybe true but I found it inappropriate to her age). While it’s not part of the curriculum, they hear from the other kids. Its ok for OP to seek out what she wants in a preschool - you all clearly don’t want her in yours.

How the heck is that inappropriate? Christopher Columbus was an EVIL and HORRIBLE man. And I seriously, seriously doubt they put it that way.

Really? He discovered a new continent. What have you done with your life?

DP. He "discovered" a continent that people were already living on, and proceeded to commit genocide. He was criticized in his own time for his actions. But sure, go ahead and glorify him to your kid, ensuring that he/she remains ignorant.

I am the OP of Columbus but not the pp. My point was that my four year old has no idea what a continent is yet. Can we start with CC discovered the continent and present the info in age appropriate manner? Not start out screaming “Columbus was a horrible and evil man?”
I know many of you are like “I’m shocked you think they’d say that in a preschool” but some of the other responses on this thread lead me to believe otherwise. These poor kids are….confused. It’s too much info for a preschooler.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m a moderate liberal but OP is entitled to choose a preschool that’s fits her kid and family’s needs. Full stop. Some of you crazy liberals are the ones who won’t listen to to any other perspective.
My preschooler did in fact come home from school last week hearing from another kid that Christopher Columbus was an EVIL and HORRIBLE man. (Maybe true but I found it inappropriate to her age). While it’s not part of the curriculum, they hear from the other kids. Its ok for OP to seek out what she wants in a preschool - you all clearly don’t want her in yours.

How the heck is that inappropriate? Christopher Columbus was an EVIL and HORRIBLE man. And I seriously, seriously doubt they put it that way.

They didn't even teach it in school, the child in PP's story heard it from another child. It's not like they had a curriculum day about it - some kid heard it at home and repeated it at school. Welcome to literally every daycare or preschool anywhere. Children will repeat things they heard at home. My child apparently explained in detail where babies come from to his 4 year-old classmates. Oops.

And you think it’s funny apparently. Give people a chance to talk to their children about sex when it’s right for their family. They gonna spoil Santa tomorrow?

Uh, yea. They're kids. That's what happens when you live in a society. Jesus Christ.

I'm pretty sure PP's kid didn't go into a graphic description of the sex act, but "babies come from a special kind of hug" is something you can't keep your kids from hearing in preK.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m a moderate liberal but OP is entitled to choose a preschool that’s fits her kid and family’s needs. Full stop. Some of you crazy liberals are the ones who won’t listen to to any other perspective.
My preschooler did in fact come home from school last week hearing from another kid that Christopher Columbus was an EVIL and HORRIBLE man. (Maybe true but I found it inappropriate to her age). While it’s not part of the curriculum, they hear from the other kids. Its ok for OP to seek out what she wants in a preschool - you all clearly don’t want her in yours.

How the heck is that inappropriate? Christopher Columbus was an EVIL and HORRIBLE man. And I seriously, seriously doubt they put it that way.

They didn't even teach it in school, the child in PP's story heard it from another child. It's not like they had a curriculum day about it - some kid heard it at home and repeated it at school. Welcome to literally every daycare or preschool anywhere. Children will repeat things they heard at home. My child apparently explained in detail where babies come from to his 4 year-old classmates. Oops.

And you think it’s funny apparently. Give people a chance to talk to their children about sex when it’s right for their family. They gonna spoil Santa tomorrow?

Uh, yea. They're kids. That's what happens when you live in a society. Jesus Christ.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m a moderate liberal but OP is entitled to choose a preschool that’s fits her kid and family’s needs. Full stop. Some of you crazy liberals are the ones who won’t listen to to any other perspective.
My preschooler did in fact come home from school last week hearing from another kid that Christopher Columbus was an EVIL and HORRIBLE man. (Maybe true but I found it inappropriate to her age). While it’s not part of the curriculum, they hear from the other kids. Its ok for OP to seek out what she wants in a preschool - you all clearly don’t want her in yours.

How the heck is that inappropriate? Christopher Columbus was an EVIL and HORRIBLE man. And I seriously, seriously doubt they put it that way.

They didn't even teach it in school, the child in PP's story heard it from another child. It's not like they had a curriculum day about it - some kid heard it at home and repeated it at school. Welcome to literally every daycare or preschool anywhere. Children will repeat things they heard at home. My child apparently explained in detail where babies come from to his 4 year-old classmates. Oops.

And you think it’s funny apparently. Give people a chance to talk to their children about sex when it’s right for their family. They gonna spoil Santa tomorrow?

Uh, yea. They're kids. That's what happens when you live in a society. Jesus Christ.

I am the OP of Columbus but not the pp. My point was that my four year old has no idea what a continent is yet. Can we start with CC discovered the continent and present the info in age appropriate manner? Not start out screaming “Columbus was a horrible and evil man?”
I know many of you are like “I’m shocked you think they’d say that in a preschool” but some of the other responses on this thread lead me to believe otherwise. These poor kids are….confused. It’s too much info for a preschooler.