Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Another catch is the tax deferred benefit has the low AGI limitation, right
Everyone gets tax deferral. If you want to use it for education tax free you are subject to AGI limits
Anonymous wrote:Another catch is the tax deferred benefit has the low AGI limitation, right
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:For those of you doing accounts for the kids, is it still your money, or are you basically ceding $20k to your kids?
Legally, it's ceding money to them although you control it as long as they are minors.
If you don't want to actually give them money, just don't tell them. You create the account in their name, control the userid/login, etc and when it's time to move the money over to yourself, just do it (as long as you stay within the gift tax limits). They would be none the wiser.
That would be stealing from your kids. If you opened the account in their name, it’s theirs and you are the custodian with a legal responsibility to manage it for them. You could use it for their benefit, like school or camp, but you can’t just buy yourself a car with your kids’ money.
Not when they are minors and you are their parents and you funded the account.
No, once you gifted the money to them it’s theirs and you are a fiduciary with the duty to spend it for their benefit. They could sue you when they reach 18 for breach of fiduciary duty or you could be criminally prosecuted for theft.
Oh give me a break. Do you drive 55 on the beltway at all times?
Anonymous wrote:Do you cheat on your taxes too because it is so unlikely you will be caught for certain less than kosher “deductions”?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:For those of you doing accounts for the kids, is it still your money, or are you basically ceding $20k to your kids?
Legally, it's ceding money to them although you control it as long as they are minors.
If you don't want to actually give them money, just don't tell them. You create the account in their name, control the userid/login, etc and when it's time to move the money over to yourself, just do it (as long as you stay within the gift tax limits). They would be none the wiser.
That would be stealing from your kids. If you opened the account in their name, it’s theirs and you are the custodian with a legal responsibility to manage it for them. You could use it for their benefit, like school or camp, but you can’t just buy yourself a car with your kids’ money.
Not when they are minors and you are their parents and you funded the account.
No, once you gifted the money to them it’s theirs and you are a fiduciary with the duty to spend it for their benefit. They could sue you when they reach 18 for breach of fiduciary duty or you could be criminally prosecuted for theft.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:For those of you doing accounts for the kids, is it still your money, or are you basically ceding $20k to your kids?
Legally, it's ceding money to them although you control it as long as they are minors.
If you don't want to actually give them money, just don't tell them. You create the account in their name, control the userid/login, etc and when it's time to move the money over to yourself, just do it (as long as you stay within the gift tax limits). They would be none the wiser.
That would be stealing from your kids. If you opened the account in their name, it’s theirs and you are the custodian with a legal responsibility to manage it for them. You could use it for their benefit, like school or camp, but you can’t just buy yourself a car with your kids’ money.
Not when they are minors and you are their parents and you funded the account.
You are wrong about this but maybe more importantly savings bonds are registered securities which means you need the gov’t’s approval to transfer them to anyone so it may not be as easy as you think to move money around.
You can't transfer I bonds, but you can sell them and transfer the money. No one cares about that.
Anonymous wrote:I bought a bunch at the 3.54% rate so another 6 months at 7% is fantastic. I'm sure it will go down to 0% next cycle however.
Anonymous wrote:Just make sure you use it for their educational expenses later on. Avoids taxes that way too
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:For those of you doing accounts for the kids, is it still your money, or are you basically ceding $20k to your kids?
Legally, it's ceding money to them although you control it as long as they are minors.
If you don't want to actually give them money, just don't tell them. You create the account in their name, control the userid/login, etc and when it's time to move the money over to yourself, just do it (as long as you stay within the gift tax limits). They would be none the wiser.
That would be stealing from your kids. If you opened the account in their name, it’s theirs and you are the custodian with a legal responsibility to manage it for them. You could use it for their benefit, like school or camp, but you can’t just buy yourself a car with your kids’ money.
Not when they are minors and you are their parents and you funded the account.
No, once you gifted the money to them it’s theirs and you are a fiduciary with the duty to spend it for their benefit. They could sue you when they reach 18 for breach of fiduciary duty or you could be criminally prosecuted for theft.