Anonymous
10/21/2021 12:07
Subject: kid makes noise constantly in class
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP, my son with ADHD was diagnosed in first grade through a comprehensive neuropsych. He was also a drummer, fidgeter, chewer and sound-maker, and still is when his medication wears off. Maturity will help some, but I would talk with an expert about it.
FWIW, it takes a huge amount of self control for a first grader to sit most of the day--more than is developmentally appropriate in a lot of cases. Nonetheless, disruptive sounds are tough for other kids in the class who are trying to maintain their own focus, so it is a real thing. What's more, you don't want to find that other kids start teasing or treating him poorly because they find him annoying. For my kid, constantly being corrected by the teacher or other kids really took a toll on his self esteem, which was why we opted to intervene.
Finally, I would ask the teacher if she would let him chew gum in class. Both my ADHD kids need that, and it really helps them regulate themselves. Usually teachers will make this accommodation even without a formal diagnosis.
Finally, my kid is a really successful, all A student in middle school, where he is thriving. I do not regret for a minute intervening when I did before he developed a bad self concept around school and interactions with teachers.
+1 and shame on the PPs who would threaten to send kid back to K or would discipline what is clearly a sensory seeking involuntary behavior in a small child who is expected to sit still all day.
+2. My second grader has similar behaviors, luckily, his school mates have gotten used to it and the teachers claims it doesn’t seem to bother them. My kids is on the spectrum, but very high functioning. He makes all sorts of noises at home, so I can only imagine what’s happening in the classroom.
This. and re the immediate pp, thankful for those classmates. My son's teacher and classmates were constantly bothered (understandably) and DS was sent to the office nearly daily in first grade.
Anonymous
10/21/2021 11:56
Subject: kid makes noise constantly in class
1. Those pop fidgets are NOT quiet
2. My son's BFF has a throat clearing tic and has been kicked out of class multiple times which makes me so angry. He cannot help it.
3. My coworker clips her nails at her desk and slurps her soup. Don't get me started on how loud she FaceTimes her kids or how she crunches her carrots. I would love to send her out of the office because it CAN be distracting. But guess what? I can ignore distractions, just need to work on my own focus.
4. If this is willful behavior, he needs reminders to stop doing it and consequences for doing it. This is on the school, but with your reinforcement at home.
2. My son's BFF has a throat clearing tic and has been kicked out of class multiple times which makes me so angry. He cannot help it.
3. My coworker clips her nails at her desk and slurps her soup. Don't get me started on how loud she FaceTimes her kids or how she crunches her carrots. I would love to send her out of the office because it CAN be distracting. But guess what? I can ignore distractions, just need to work on my own focus.
4. If this is willful behavior, he needs reminders to stop doing it and consequences for doing it. This is on the school, but with your reinforcement at home.
Anonymous
10/21/2021 10:22
Subject: Re:kid makes noise constantly in class
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I have a kid a bit like this OP. Very willful. And it becomes a power struggle with the teacher.
I think you can set up a reward system and also if the behavior doesn't improve, set up a consequence he cares about and follow through.
Is this something that has improved with time with your child or are you suspecting something diagnosable? Thank you for the suggestions I’d love to hear more about your experience and what has worked for you.
-OP
DS is noisy. ALL. THE. TIME. He sings, hums, makes noise, and fidgets. Mostly centered around music, which he LOVES. Takes voice lessons. We went through 2nd and 3rd grade with the main teacher calling or emailing me quite frequently. It was very stressful because nothing seemed to help a great deal and most techniques seemed to make it worse for everyone involved. Rewards systems caused so much stress that DS ended up crying over it several times because he wants to doing well. DS is also quite willful. Fluid seating helped some. Getting DS to be more conscious of it helped a little. Getting the teaching to be more tolerant and try a variety of methods, including more movement breaks, preferred seating, etc. helped too. Some of the issue is child dependent and some of this is teacher dependent. It has approved over time at school, but he definitely still does it. This is not a kid with ADHD (was tested), but just a music loving, willful, and bored kid.
Anonymous
10/21/2021 10:08
Subject: kid makes noise constantly in class
Anonymous wrote:we are only 2 months into the school year and we are already being notified by our 1st grader's teacher that he "makes noise constantly" (drums on the desk, makes popping sound with his mouth) to the point of he has to be taken out of class and walked up and down the hallways by an IA. he's on the older side and we figured he may be bored this year, and it's a long day expected to sit back in person, but this seems way beyond boredom. we've asked him why he makes noise and he says "because I like to" and when we explain it distracts other kids and the teacher can't focus on teaching, he acts like he could not care less. i'm so confused by his lack of empathy because he's a very sensitive child and typically a pleaser.
I don't know what to do other than to send a fidget toy in with him or something in hopes he stops making loud noises. my words don't seem to be getting through to him or he doesn't care about being a problem to the entire class.
has anyone else dealt with this or have any advice? thanks.
Let him grow out of it and dont complain
Anonymous
10/21/2021 08:10
Subject: kid makes noise constantly in class
Anonymous wrote:Start with one of Alan Kazdin’s books. He’s a famous psychologist who works at Yale. Try his method for at least two weeks, focusing only on replacing the sounds with quiet fidgeting. Either:
a. The noise will stop. Congratulations, you’re done.
or
b. The noise won’t stop. You need to speak to your pediatrician.
There’s really no way to know without a really targeted parenting intervention first.
Thank you! Is the one I should start with titled "The Kazdin Method for Parenting the Defiant Child"?
-OP
Anonymous
10/21/2021 01:40
Subject: kid makes noise constantly in class
Tics? I suspect Tourette's Syndrome
No one can control it.
No one can control it.
Anonymous
10/21/2021 01:23
Subject: Re:kid makes noise constantly in class
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think it’s silly it’s “So distracting” he has to leave. So what he makes noises.
If he's distracting other kids from their work or paying attention to the teacher, then it's a problem.
Those kids need to learn to ignore distractions.
Nope. Try again.
Correct.
As much as the noisier people in life like to think about that everyone else just has to deal, this is not the case.
Anonymous
10/20/2021 23:38
Subject: Re:kid makes noise constantly in class
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think it’s silly it’s “So distracting” he has to leave. So what he makes noises.
If he's distracting other kids from their work or paying attention to the teacher, then it's a problem.
Those kids need to learn to ignore distractions.
Nope. Try again.
Anonymous
10/20/2021 23:36
Subject: Re:kid makes noise constantly in class
Anonymous wrote:I think it’s silly it’s “So distracting” he has to leave. So what he makes noises.
Ugh. Other kids would like to hear, not be constantly distracted by repetitive noises and learn. Don’t be That Parent.
Anonymous
10/20/2021 23:33
Subject: kid makes noise constantly in class
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP, my son with ADHD was diagnosed in first grade through a comprehensive neuropsych. He was also a drummer, fidgeter, chewer and sound-maker, and still is when his medication wears off. Maturity will help some, but I would talk with an expert about it.
FWIW, it takes a huge amount of self control for a first grader to sit most of the day--more than is developmentally appropriate in a lot of cases. Nonetheless, disruptive sounds are tough for other kids in the class who are trying to maintain their own focus, so it is a real thing. What's more, you don't want to find that other kids start teasing or treating him poorly because they find him annoying. For my kid, constantly being corrected by the teacher or other kids really took a toll on his self esteem, which was why we opted to intervene.
Finally, I would ask the teacher if she would let him chew gum in class. Both my ADHD kids need that, and it really helps them regulate themselves. Usually teachers will make this accommodation even without a formal diagnosis.
Finally, my kid is a really successful, all A student in middle school, where he is thriving. I do not regret for a minute intervening when I did before he developed a bad self concept around school and interactions with teachers.
+1 and shame on the PPs who would threaten to send kid back to K or would discipline what is clearly a sensory seeking involuntary behavior in a small child who is expected to sit still all day.
+2. My second grader has similar behaviors, luckily, his school mates have gotten used to it and the teachers claims it doesn’t seem to bother them. My kids is on the spectrum, but very high functioning. He makes all sorts of noises at home, so I can only imagine what’s happening in the classroom.
Anonymous
10/20/2021 23:20
Subject: kid makes noise constantly in class
Start with one of Alan Kazdin’s books. He’s a famous psychologist who works at Yale. Try his method for at least two weeks, focusing only on replacing the sounds with quiet fidgeting. Either:
a. The noise will stop. Congratulations, you’re done.
or
b. The noise won’t stop. You need to speak to your pediatrician.
There’s really no way to know without a really targeted parenting intervention first.
a. The noise will stop. Congratulations, you’re done.
or
b. The noise won’t stop. You need to speak to your pediatrician.
There’s really no way to know without a really targeted parenting intervention first.
Anonymous
10/20/2021 19:13
Subject: kid makes noise constantly in class
Anonymous wrote:Would your teacher allow these? I think you need to be careful not to pathologize behavior that is in the normative range for first grade boys. https://www.amazon.com/Bouncy-Bands-for-Desks-Blue/dp/B01DKU4020/ref=asc_df_B01DKU4020/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=198090265815&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=10310842611401781789&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9007783&hvtargid=pla-318157091260&psc=1
I don't know but it's a great suggestion. Thank you!
-OP
Anonymous
10/20/2021 13:50
Subject: kid makes noise constantly in class
Would your teacher allow these? I think you need to be careful not to pathologize behavior that is in the normative range for first grade boys. https://www.amazon.com/Bouncy-Bands-for-Desks-Blue/dp/B01DKU4020/ref=asc_df_B01DKU4020/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=198090265815&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=10310842611401781789&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9007783&hvtargid=pla-318157091260&psc=1
Anonymous
10/20/2021 13:40
Subject: kid makes noise constantly in class
This is why our schools don’t serve young boys well. Maybe look into a single sex school like the Heights that has a boy based methodology. I say this as someone who is in general not a fan of religious schools but have seen a lot of boys thrive there.
Anonymous
10/20/2021 13:00
Subject: Re:kid makes noise constantly in class
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