Anonymous wrote:Anxious helicopter parents on here handwringing over which test their anxious kids should take. Newsflash: there's no clear answer, and you're not gonna find one. Just take both and be done with it.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anxious helicopter parents on here handwringing over which test their anxious kids should take. Newsflash: there's no clear answer, and you're not gonna find one. Just take both and be done with it.
Or just take one and be done with it?
Anonymous wrote:Anxious helicopter parents on here handwringing over which test their anxious kids should take. Newsflash: there's no clear answer, and you're not gonna find one. Just take both and be done with it.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There are various concordance tables published and they aren’t uniform.
There is only one current official concordance table, available on both ACT and College Board websites. There are older ones out there, on other websites, but they are not current.
https://www.act.org/content/dam/act/unsecured/documents/ACT-SAT-Concordance-Information.pdf
https://collegereadiness.collegeboard.org/pdf/guide-2018-act-sat-concordance.pdf
You think a 2018 concordance table is current, never mind accurate?
If it's put out by the testing agencies (and hasn't been updated), why wouldn't it be accurate?
It is means to show ADs the relative academic levels of those taking each test because people used to only take one or the other. I doesn't and can't factor in the reality that some kids are better taking one test or the other. My DC's SAT score concordance would suggest the ACT score should have been 4 points high than it actually was. It isn't meant to be an individual performance predictor.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There are various concordance tables published and they aren’t uniform.
There is only one current official concordance table, available on both ACT and College Board websites. There are older ones out there, on other websites, but they are not current.
https://www.act.org/content/dam/act/unsecured/documents/ACT-SAT-Concordance-Information.pdf
https://collegereadiness.collegeboard.org/pdf/guide-2018-act-sat-concordance.pdf
You think a 2018 concordance table is current, never mind accurate?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There are various concordance tables published and they aren’t uniform.
There is only one current official concordance table, available on both ACT and College Board websites. There are older ones out there, on other websites, but they are not current.
https://www.act.org/content/dam/act/unsecured/documents/ACT-SAT-Concordance-Information.pdf
https://collegereadiness.collegeboard.org/pdf/guide-2018-act-sat-concordance.pdf
You think a 2018 concordance table is current, never mind accurate?
If it's put out by the testing agencies (and hasn't been updated), why wouldn't it be accurate?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There are various concordance tables published and they aren’t uniform.
There is only one current official concordance table, available on both ACT and College Board websites. There are older ones out there, on other websites, but they are not current.
https://www.act.org/content/dam/act/unsecured/documents/ACT-SAT-Concordance-Information.pdf
https://collegereadiness.collegeboard.org/pdf/guide-2018-act-sat-concordance.pdf
You think a 2018 concordance table is current, never mind accurate?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There are various concordance tables published and they aren’t uniform.
There is only one current official concordance table, available on both ACT and College Board websites. There are older ones out there, on other websites, but they are not current.
https://www.act.org/content/dam/act/unsecured/documents/ACT-SAT-Concordance-Information.pdf
https://collegereadiness.collegeboard.org/pdf/guide-2018-act-sat-concordance.pdf
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Most kids find the ACT easier.
+ 1. ACT is much easier. In fact, what I heard is non-intellectual students submits ACT because they cannot get a high SAT score.
Source?
An admissions officer at a college in the 20-40 range.
Well, whoever that is she's not an expert. And what exactly is a "non-intellectual" student?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Most kids find the ACT easier.
+ 1. ACT is much easier. In fact, what I heard is non-intellectual students submits ACT because they cannot get a high SAT score.
Source?
An admissions officer at a college in the 20-40 range.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I thought they tested the same stuff. Does the ACT favor students who do better on the verbal side? That definitely describes my kid.
From this article: https://www.usnews.com/education/best-colleges/articles/act-vs-sat-how-to-decide-which-test-to-take
“The two exams may appeal to different types of students, says Jumamil. A key difference is that students with a strong English background ‘may flourish on the ACT,’ which puts more emphasis on verbal skills, she says, while for students who are strong in math, ‘the SAT may reflect that much better.’”
I find all of this interesting but the generalizations in the OP don't make sense to me. At my kid's HS, ACT isn't really considered by students. Everyone just assumes they should take the SAT, so those kids very well could have gotten high scores on the ACT but just never took it.
It would be interesting to know what region of the country you’re in, because the data shows that this would be unusual outside of the Northeast. In the 80’s, everyone I knew took the SAT, because that’s what the elite colleges required, but that has changed steadily over time. I’m familiar with several very different parts of the country right now, and all of the HS students I know who are seriously into the college application process have taken both and then focused on prepping for a retake of the one they did best on (even if they had a very high score the first time).
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I thought they tested the same stuff. Does the ACT favor students who do better on the verbal side? That definitely describes my kid.
From this article: https://www.usnews.com/education/best-colleges/articles/act-vs-sat-how-to-decide-which-test-to-take
“The two exams may appeal to different types of students, says Jumamil. A key difference is that students with a strong English background ‘may flourish on the ACT,’ which puts more emphasis on verbal skills, she says, while for students who are strong in math, ‘the SAT may reflect that much better.’”
I find all of this interesting but the generalizations in the OP don't make sense to me. At my kid's HS, ACT isn't really considered by students. Everyone just assumes they should take the SAT, so those kids very well could have gotten high scores on the ACT but just never took it.