Anonymous
Post 09/22/2021 17:02     Subject: Would you be okay with a PRE game prayer? o
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don't care. If they want pray, give a blessing, of any religion as long as participation isn't forced and kids can just stand by silently if they don't want to do it.


Forcing a kid to set themselves apart as different based on their religious beliefs is just wrong.


LOL

clearly you have never seen this done.

The students aren't all saying a prayer at the same time, they just stand there quietly, and there is someone who says a prayer or blessing or chant or whatever. They are all standing their silently.
so my point is kids who don't want to participate should just not disrupt them with loud talking and so on while it's going on. It's basic respect of a group. Don't speak when someone else is speaking.

I know that in APS parents would complain about a Christian prayer but would say a Jewish or Muslim prayer was ok. Because that's how they show how woke they are and prove they don't like Trump
And I wish I was joking.

And like I said, I am fine with any religion prayer or blessing.


Supreme Court disagrees:

The respondents' argument to the contrary, which is largely based upon the contention that the Regents' prayer is 'nondenominational' and the fact that the program, as modified and approved by state courts, does not require all pupils to recite the prayer but permits those who wish to do so to remain silent or be excused from the room, ignores the essential nature of the program's constitutional defects. Neither the fact that the prayer may be denominationally neutral nor the fact that its observance on the part of the students is voluntary can serve to free it from the limitations of the Establishment Clause, as it might from the Free Exercise Clause…
Anonymous
Post 09/22/2021 17:00     Subject: Would you be okay with a PRE game prayer? o
Anonymous wrote:

The students aren't all saying a prayer at the same time, they just stand there quietly, and there is someone who says a prayer or blessing or chant or whatever. They are all standing their silently.
so my point is kids who don't want to participate should just not disrupt them with loud talking and so on while it's going on. It's basic respect of a group. Don't speak when someone else is speaking.



It's a power flex by Christians, marking territory. Forcing non-believers to stand idly by and watch while Christians perform their ritual. You'd rightfully lose your damn mind if Christian kids were expected to stand respectfully and quietly while atheists used the time before a football game to publicly declare that there is no God and good luck everybody. The declaration of non-belief has absolutely nothing to do with the sporting event.
Anonymous
Post 09/22/2021 16:52     Subject: Would you be okay with a PRE game prayer? o
Anonymous wrote:OP no public school should be doing this.

SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE

Unacceptable period. And yes I know there are places in the US that do this UGH


CLEMSON university does this. I was shocked when I went to a game.
Anonymous
Post 09/22/2021 16:38     Subject: Re:Would you be okay with a PRE game prayer? o
No. What does religion even have to do with football and sports in general? So strange how some force religion into secular spaces.
Anonymous
Post 09/22/2021 16:28     Subject: Would you be okay with a PRE game prayer? o
Nope. I'm OK with a moment of silence to help the participants clear their minds and focus on the upcoming game. If some want to use that moment for individual silent prayer, fine. But leading a prayer out load to the whole group is not appropriate.
Anonymous
Post 09/22/2021 16:24     Subject: Would you be okay with a PRE game prayer? o
Anonymous wrote:
I know that in APS parents would complain about a Christian prayer but would say a Jewish or Muslim prayer was ok. Because that's how they show how woke they are and prove they don't like Trump
And I wish I was joking.

And like I said, I am fine with any religion prayer or blessing.


As an APS parent, I would be OK with a Muslim prayer if it fell at a time Muslims are praying anyway, because that seems necessary, because I don't think kids who aren't Muslim would feel obliged to join in (would the prayer even be out on the field, the way Christian Football Prayer is?), and because the people pushing for group prayer are the ones who would lose their shit if the prayer weren't Christian.
Anonymous
Post 09/22/2021 15:50     Subject: Would you be okay with a PRE game prayer? o
Anonymous wrote:I grew up in a respected and admired FCPS and our basketball coach had us say a prayer before each game, including the words "Jesus," "God," etc. I thought it was weird then but it seems really wrong now.


I'm ready for people to tell me I'm overreacting but I would truly go ballistic if my (Jewish) kid's team did this.
Anonymous
Post 09/22/2021 15:50     Subject: Would you be okay with a PRE game prayer? o
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don't care. If they want pray, give a blessing, of any religion as long as participation isn't forced and kids can just stand by silently if they don't want to do it.


Forcing a kid to set themselves apart as different based on their religious beliefs is just wrong.


LOL

clearly you have never seen this done.

The students aren't all saying a prayer at the same time, they just stand there quietly, and there is someone who says a prayer or blessing or chant or whatever. They are all standing their silently.
so my point is kids who don't want to participate should just not disrupt them with loud talking and so on while it's going on. It's basic respect of a group. Don't speak when someone else is speaking.

I know that in APS parents would complain about a Christian prayer but would say a Jewish or Muslim prayer was ok. Because that's how they show how woke they are and prove they don't like Trump
And I wish I was joking.

And like I said, I am fine with any religion prayer or blessing.
Anonymous
Post 09/22/2021 15:48     Subject: Re:Would you be okay with a PRE game prayer? o
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It would be nice and could help our team do well.


OH no it would not be "nice"

Which religion would you like? Muslem, Buddest, Jewish, Catholic, Wicka, etc...



I believe we all believe in GOD, so we say Our Father, who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name; thy kingdom come; thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread; and forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us; and lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil. Amen.
Even if you are Muslim, Jewish, Wicka we still believe in one God.


Not everybody believes God was a father so no.
Anonymous
Post 09/22/2021 15:36     Subject: Re:Would you be okay with a PRE game prayer? o
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It would be nice and could help our team do well.


OH no it would not be "nice"

Which religion would you like? Muslem, Buddest, Jewish, Catholic, Wicka, etc...



I believe we all believe in GOD, so we say Our Father, who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name; thy kingdom come; thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread; and forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us; and lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil. Amen.
Even if you are Muslim, Jewish, Wicka we still believe in one God.


We don't all believe in one God, and even if we did, that is an explicitly Christian prayer.


And it's the Catholic version. Just how sheltered is the person who thinks we all agree with that. Not even all Christians say that version of the prayer.
Anonymous
Post 09/22/2021 15:12     Subject: Would you be okay with a PRE game prayer? o
Anonymous wrote:Only if it was a prayer to Jobu.


F**k Jobu. Do it yourself.
Anonymous
Post 09/22/2021 15:11     Subject: Re:Would you be okay with a PRE game prayer? o
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It would be nice and could help our team do well.


OH no it would not be "nice"

Which religion would you like? Muslem, Buddest, Jewish, Catholic, Wicka, etc...



I believe we all believe in GOD, so we say Our Father, who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name; thy kingdom come; thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread; and forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us; and lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil. Amen.
Even if you are Muslim, Jewish, Wicka we still believe in one God.


We don't all believe in one God, and even if we did, that is an explicitly Christian prayer.
Anonymous
Post 09/22/2021 15:09     Subject: Re:Would you be okay with a PRE game prayer? o
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It would be nice and could help our team do well.


OH no it would not be "nice"

Which religion would you like? Muslem, Buddest, Jewish, Catholic, Wicka, etc...



I believe we all believe in GOD, so we say Our Father, who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name; thy kingdom come; thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread; and forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us; and lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil. Amen.
Even if you are Muslim, Jewish, Wicka we still believe in one God.
Anonymous
Post 09/22/2021 14:39     Subject: Would you be okay with a PRE game prayer? o
OP no public school should be doing this.

SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE

Unacceptable period. And yes I know there are places in the US that do this UGH
Anonymous
Post 09/22/2021 14:38     Subject: Re:Would you be okay with a PRE game prayer? o
Anonymous wrote:It would be nice and could help our team do well.


OH no it would not be "nice"

Which religion would you like? Muslem, Buddest, Jewish, Catholic, Wicka, etc...