Anonymous
Post 09/24/2021 08:56     Subject: Do Atheists believe in the bad angels or demons?
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I believe that Spider Man is a comic book superhero invented by Stan Lee. Is that not true?

I believe Voldemort is the villain in the Harry Potter series, written by JK Rowling. Is that not true?

I believe Leprechauns are charming Irish folktales. Is that not true?



Yep! All true. You don't believe any of them actually exist because there is no evidence they do. This is were we completely agree, and are both agnostic (since we can't prove they don't exist either, we just don't believe they do). Those positions are entirely logical and based on evidence or lack thereof. Excellent!

Now we have established that there is only one set of folktales on which we differ. Why do you hold a different standard for those?


Unfortunately for you, we cannot and do not compare God and the Bible to Harry Potter and Leprechauns and Voldemort. It’s the one thing people here keep insisting upon, and it’s not possible, nor is it done other than in your imaginations.

Scholars, theological scholars, professional authors, editors, publishers, professors and teachers on every level, medical doctors, therapists, every professional person that is accountable and educated: none of them do that. Wikipedia doesn’t do that.

Every poster here can insist all day long that Spider-Man, Voldemort, and leprechauns are on the same level or can be compared to the Bible or belief in God, but it’s not true. You’d look and sound like an absolute raving nutter IRL if you said the same things as you type. Imagine some guy on a street corner mumbling that leprechauns and God are the same? Or telling the ER doctor that Lord Voldermort was looking out for him and he was lucky to be alive? Or he was attending church at United Spider-Man?

Keep raving, nutsos. You think you sound educated and intelligent. Ugh.


Yes, indeed, imagine a crazy person mumbling about fake crap on a street corner. That is exactly how Christians sound to us nonbelievers


Aren't 95% of those crazy people on corners jesus lovers?


Pretty sure the anti Trumper holding a Trump sign with profanities aimed at Trump is a liberal atheist.



So that's the 5%.

95% have JeSus SAveS! or some other nonsense.

Anonymous
Post 09/24/2021 07:33     Subject: Do Atheists believe in the bad angels or demons?
Anonymous wrote:NP & atheist.

I don't understand this. OP wants Atheists' POV on religion. When pointed out that (most) Atheists don't really see the Bible and God (or any other religious texts and its Gods) as any different than any other book and heroes/superheroes contained therein, goes on to argue that the equivalence just can't be made. But doesn't really explain why the hell not.

So, PP who is arguing about this: why can an equivalence not be made between one set of books written by man, and another? Because you (and others such as yourself) believe it to be special?


Because the world in general accepts the Bible as a religious text and the Harry Potter series, spider man, etc, as works of fiction. A visit to any library or bookstore will show you that. They aren’t in the same section.
Anonymous
Post 09/23/2021 12:46     Subject: Do Atheists believe in the bad angels or demons?
NP & atheist.

I don't understand this. OP wants Atheists' POV on religion. When pointed out that (most) Atheists don't really see the Bible and God (or any other religious texts and its Gods) as any different than any other book and heroes/superheroes contained therein, goes on to argue that the equivalence just can't be made. But doesn't really explain why the hell not.

So, PP who is arguing about this: why can an equivalence not be made between one set of books written by man, and another? Because you (and others such as yourself) believe it to be special?
Anonymous
Post 09/22/2021 23:47     Subject: Do Atheists believe in the bad angels or demons?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

I believe that Spider Man is a comic book superhero invented by Stan Lee. Is that not true?

I believe Voldemort is the villain in the Harry Potter series, written by JK Rowling. Is that not true?

I believe Leprechauns are charming Irish folktales. Is that not true?



Yep! All true. You don't believe any of them actually exist because there is no evidence they do. This is were we completely agree, and are both agnostic (since we can't prove they don't exist either, we just don't believe they do). Those positions are entirely logical and based on evidence or lack thereof. Excellent!

Now we have established that there is only one set of folktales on which we differ. Why do you hold a different standard for those?


Unfortunately for you, we cannot and do not compare God and the Bible to Harry Potter and Leprechauns and Voldemort. It’s the one thing people here keep insisting upon, and it’s not possible, nor is it done other than in your imaginations.

Scholars, theological scholars, professional authors, editors, publishers, professors and teachers on every level, medical doctors, therapists, every professional person that is accountable and educated: none of them do that. Wikipedia doesn’t do that.

Every poster here can insist all day long that Spider-Man, Voldemort, and leprechauns are on the same level or can be compared to the Bible or belief in God, but it’s not true. You’d look and sound like an absolute raving nutter IRL if you said the same things as you type. Imagine some guy on a street corner mumbling that leprechauns and God are the same? Or telling the ER doctor that Lord Voldermort was looking out for him and he was lucky to be alive? Or he was attending church at United Spider-Man?

Keep raving, nutsos. You think you sound educated and intelligent. Ugh.


Yes, indeed, imagine a crazy person mumbling about fake crap on a street corner. That is exactly how Christians sound to us nonbelievers


Aren't 95% of those crazy people on corners jesus lovers?


Pretty sure the anti Trumper holding a Trump sign with profanities aimed at Trump is a liberal atheist.
Anonymous
Post 09/22/2021 13:31     Subject: Do Atheists believe in the bad angels or demons?
Anonymous wrote:Mention to any professional person in your life that your think Christianity and the worship of leprechauns are the same. Tell your neighbor that you believe Spider-Man and Jesus Christ are the sad. Tell your accountant that you plan on worshiping Lord Voldermort instead of God.

Report back afterward.


Oh the irony.

Your post is correct. But it illustrates the opposite perfectly - the irrationality of believing anything without evidence. What you fail to recognize is the special pleading you apply to your god, and not the other 3,000+ people do believe in.

You have made your opponents point better and more saliently than they did, and you have made no progress on your own position.

You think scientologists are crazy too, right?
Anonymous
Post 09/22/2021 13:28     Subject: Do Atheists believe in the bad angels or demons?
Anonymous wrote:Unfortunately for you, we cannot and do not compare God and the Bible to Harry Potter and Leprechauns and Voldemort. It’s the one thing people here keep insisting upon, and it’s not possible, nor is it done other than in your imaginations.


Then you are tasked to explain the difference, and why one logic applies to one but not the other.

Anonymous wrote:Scholars, theological scholars, professional authors, editors, publishers, professors and teachers on every level, medical doctors, therapists, every professional person that is accountable and educated: none of them do that. Wikipedia doesn’t do that.


You just made that up, and it is demonstrably false. Plenty of people put your god right alongside all the other gods and myths. Take any comparative religion class; read any book on the subject. You could not make that sentence of yours above any more incorrect.



Anonymous wrote:Every poster here can insist all day long that Spider-Man, Voldemort, and leprechauns are on the same level or can be compared to the Bible or belief in God, but it’s not true. You’d look and sound like an absolute raving nutter IRL if you said the same things as you type. Imagine some guy on a street corner mumbling that leprechauns and God are the same? Or telling the ER doctor that Lord Voldermort was looking out for him and he was lucky to be alive? Or he was attending church at United Spider-Man?


It is ABSOLUTELY true. but if you want to substitute Odin and Mithras for SM + VM, that's fine. It does not change the point.

But that fact that you don't see the comparison IS THE POINT. You refuse to be objective.


Anonymous wrote:Keep raving, nutsos. You think you sound educated and intelligent. Ugh.


Well, now you resort to the ad hominems, which is unfortunate, and makes you look bad. That's what people do when they can't debate on the merits. Why don't you take that last line back and we can continue to discuss like adults?
Anonymous
Post 09/22/2021 12:21     Subject: Do Atheists believe in the bad angels or demons?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

I believe that Spider Man is a comic book superhero invented by Stan Lee. Is that not true?

I believe Voldemort is the villain in the Harry Potter series, written by JK Rowling. Is that not true?

I believe Leprechauns are charming Irish folktales. Is that not true?



Yep! All true. You don't believe any of them actually exist because there is no evidence they do. This is were we completely agree, and are both agnostic (since we can't prove they don't exist either, we just don't believe they do). Those positions are entirely logical and based on evidence or lack thereof. Excellent!

Now we have established that there is only one set of folktales on which we differ. Why do you hold a different standard for those?


Unfortunately for you, we cannot and do not compare God and the Bible to Harry Potter and Leprechauns and Voldemort. It’s the one thing people here keep insisting upon, and it’s not possible, nor is it done other than in your imaginations.

Scholars, theological scholars, professional authors, editors, publishers, professors and teachers on every level, medical doctors, therapists, every professional person that is accountable and educated: none of them do that. Wikipedia doesn’t do that.

Every poster here can insist all day long that Spider-Man, Voldemort, and leprechauns are on the same level or can be compared to the Bible or belief in God, but it’s not true. You’d look and sound like an absolute raving nutter IRL if you said the same things as you type. Imagine some guy on a street corner mumbling that leprechauns and God are the same? Or telling the ER doctor that Lord Voldermort was looking out for him and he was lucky to be alive? Or he was attending church at United Spider-Man?

Keep raving, nutsos. You think you sound educated and intelligent. Ugh.


Yes, indeed, imagine a crazy person mumbling about fake crap on a street corner. That is exactly how Christians sound to us nonbelievers


Aren't 95% of those crazy people on corners jesus lovers?
Anonymous
Post 09/22/2021 12:20     Subject: Do Atheists believe in the bad angels or demons?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

I believe that Spider Man is a comic book superhero invented by Stan Lee. Is that not true?

I believe Voldemort is the villain in the Harry Potter series, written by JK Rowling. Is that not true?

I believe Leprechauns are charming Irish folktales. Is that not true?



Yep! All true. You don't believe any of them actually exist because there is no evidence they do. This is were we completely agree, and are both agnostic (since we can't prove they don't exist either, we just don't believe they do). Those positions are entirely logical and based on evidence or lack thereof. Excellent!

Now we have established that there is only one set of folktales on which we differ. Why do you hold a different standard for those?


Unfortunately for you, we cannot and do not compare God and the Bible to Harry Potter and Leprechauns and Voldemort. It’s the one thing people here keep insisting upon, and it’s not possible, nor is it done other than in your imaginations.

Scholars, theological scholars, professional authors, editors, publishers, professors and teachers on every level, medical doctors, therapists, every professional person that is accountable and educated: none of them do that. Wikipedia doesn’t do that.

Every poster here can insist all day long that Spider-Man, Voldemort, and leprechauns are on the same level or can be compared to the Bible or belief in God, but it’s not true. You’d look and sound like an absolute raving nutter IRL if you said the same things as you type. Imagine some guy on a street corner mumbling that leprechauns and God are the same? Or telling the ER doctor that Lord Voldermort was looking out for him and he was lucky to be alive? Or he was attending church at United Spider-Man?

Keep raving, nutsos. You think you sound educated and intelligent. Ugh.


Yes, indeed, imagine a crazy person mumbling about fake crap on a street corner. That is exactly how Christians sound to us nonbelievers


But the people who matter don’t compare leprechauns, cartoon characters, or Lord Voldemort with God. Your mistake is thinking you matter.



Wrong.

I "matter". And I also compare man-made tales.
Anonymous
Post 09/22/2021 12:17     Subject: Do Atheists believe in the bad angels or demons?
Mention to any professional person in your life that you think Christianity and the worship of leprechauns are the same. Tell your neighbor that you believe Spider-Man and Jesus Christ are the same. Tell your accountant that you plan on worshiping Lord Voldermort instead of God.

Report back afterward.

Omsm (oh my Spider-Man), autocorrect got me good. Praise Voldermort I noticed in time to made the corrections.

May the Leprechaun watch over me as I move forward in my day. I am making mistakes that are simple, but my Leprechaun, I need to be more careful. Spider-Man knows I try hard but some days get the best of me.

Anonymous
Post 09/22/2021 12:14     Subject: Do Atheists believe in the bad angels or demons?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

I believe that Spider Man is a comic book superhero invented by Stan Lee. Is that not true?

I believe Voldemort is the villain in the Harry Potter series, written by JK Rowling. Is that not true?

I believe Leprechauns are charming Irish folktales. Is that not true?



Yep! All true. You don't believe any of them actually exist because there is no evidence they do. This is were we completely agree, and are both agnostic (since we can't prove they don't exist either, we just don't believe they do). Those positions are entirely logical and based on evidence or lack thereof. Excellent!

Now we have established that there is only one set of folktales on which we differ. Why do you hold a different standard for those?


Unfortunately for you, we cannot and do not compare God and the Bible to Harry Potter and Leprechauns and Voldemort. It’s the one thing people here keep insisting upon, and it’s not possible, nor is it done other than in your imaginations.

Scholars, theological scholars, professional authors, editors, publishers, professors and teachers on every level, medical doctors, therapists, every professional person that is accountable and educated: none of them do that. Wikipedia doesn’t do that.

Every poster here can insist all day long that Spider-Man, Voldemort, and leprechauns are on the same level or can be compared to the Bible or belief in God, but it’s not true. You’d look and sound like an absolute raving nutter IRL if you said the same things as you type. Imagine some guy on a street corner mumbling that leprechauns and God are the same? Or telling the ER doctor that Lord Voldermort was looking out for him and he was lucky to be alive? Or he was attending church at United Spider-Man?

Keep raving, nutsos. You think you sound educated and intelligent. Ugh.


Yes, indeed, imagine a crazy person mumbling about fake crap on a street corner. That is exactly how Christians sound to us nonbelievers


But the people who matter don’t compare leprechauns, cartoon characters, or Lord Voldemort with God. Your mistake is thinking you matter.


^ the quintessential Christian attitude. DP.


Mention to any professional person in your life that your think Christianity and the worship of leprechauns are the same. Tell your neighbor that you believe Spider-Man and Jesus Christ are the sad. Tell your accountant that you plan on worshiping Lord Voldermort instead of God.

Report back afterward.
Anonymous
Post 09/22/2021 11:33     Subject: Do Atheists believe in the bad angels or demons?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

I believe that Spider Man is a comic book superhero invented by Stan Lee. Is that not true?

I believe Voldemort is the villain in the Harry Potter series, written by JK Rowling. Is that not true?

I believe Leprechauns are charming Irish folktales. Is that not true?



Yep! All true. You don't believe any of them actually exist because there is no evidence they do. This is were we completely agree, and are both agnostic (since we can't prove they don't exist either, we just don't believe they do). Those positions are entirely logical and based on evidence or lack thereof. Excellent!

Now we have established that there is only one set of folktales on which we differ. Why do you hold a different standard for those?


Unfortunately for you, we cannot and do not compare God and the Bible to Harry Potter and Leprechauns and Voldemort. It’s the one thing people here keep insisting upon, and it’s not possible, nor is it done other than in your imaginations.

Scholars, theological scholars, professional authors, editors, publishers, professors and teachers on every level, medical doctors, therapists, every professional person that is accountable and educated: none of them do that. Wikipedia doesn’t do that.

Every poster here can insist all day long that Spider-Man, Voldemort, and leprechauns are on the same level or can be compared to the Bible or belief in God, but it’s not true. You’d look and sound like an absolute raving nutter IRL if you said the same things as you type. Imagine some guy on a street corner mumbling that leprechauns and God are the same? Or telling the ER doctor that Lord Voldermort was looking out for him and he was lucky to be alive? Or he was attending church at United Spider-Man?

Keep raving, nutsos. You think you sound educated and intelligent. Ugh.


Yes, indeed, imagine a crazy person mumbling about fake crap on a street corner. That is exactly how Christians sound to us nonbelievers


But the people who matter don’t compare leprechauns, cartoon characters, or Lord Voldemort with God. Your mistake is thinking you matter.


^ the quintessential Christian attitude. DP.
Anonymous
Post 09/22/2021 11:31     Subject: Do Atheists believe in the bad angels or demons?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

I believe that Spider Man is a comic book superhero invented by Stan Lee. Is that not true?

I believe Voldemort is the villain in the Harry Potter series, written by JK Rowling. Is that not true?

I believe Leprechauns are charming Irish folktales. Is that not true?



Yep! All true. You don't believe any of them actually exist because there is no evidence they do. This is were we completely agree, and are both agnostic (since we can't prove they don't exist either, we just don't believe they do). Those positions are entirely logical and based on evidence or lack thereof. Excellent!

Now we have established that there is only one set of folktales on which we differ. Why do you hold a different standard for those?


Unfortunately for you, we cannot and do not compare God and the Bible to Harry Potter and Leprechauns and Voldemort. It’s the one thing people here keep insisting upon, and it’s not possible, nor is it done other than in your imaginations.

Scholars, theological scholars, professional authors, editors, publishers, professors and teachers on every level, medical doctors, therapists, every professional person that is accountable and educated: none of them do that. Wikipedia doesn’t do that.

Every poster here can insist all day long that Spider-Man, Voldemort, and leprechauns are on the same level or can be compared to the Bible or belief in God, but it’s not true. You’d look and sound like an absolute raving nutter IRL if you said the same things as you type. Imagine some guy on a street corner mumbling that leprechauns and God are the same? Or telling the ER doctor that Lord Voldermort was looking out for him and he was lucky to be alive? Or he was attending church at United Spider-Man?

Keep raving, nutsos. You think you sound educated and intelligent. Ugh.


Yes, indeed, imagine a crazy person mumbling about fake crap on a street corner. That is exactly how Christians sound to us nonbelievers


But the people who matter don’t compare leprechauns, cartoon characters, or Lord Voldemort with God. Your mistake is thinking you matter.
Anonymous
Post 09/22/2021 11:29     Subject: Do Atheists believe in the bad angels or demons?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

I believe that Spider Man is a comic book superhero invented by Stan Lee. Is that not true?

I believe Voldemort is the villain in the Harry Potter series, written by JK Rowling. Is that not true?

I believe Leprechauns are charming Irish folktales. Is that not true?



Yep! All true. You don't believe any of them actually exist because there is no evidence they do. This is were we completely agree, and are both agnostic (since we can't prove they don't exist either, we just don't believe they do). Those positions are entirely logical and based on evidence or lack thereof. Excellent!

Now we have established that there is only one set of folktales on which we differ. Why do you hold a different standard for those?


Unfortunately for you, we cannot and do not compare God and the Bible to Harry Potter and Leprechauns and Voldemort. It’s the one thing people here keep insisting upon, and it’s not possible, nor is it done other than in your imaginations.

Scholars, theological scholars, professional authors, editors, publishers, professors and teachers on every level, medical doctors, therapists, every professional person that is accountable and educated: none of them do that. Wikipedia doesn’t do that.

Every poster here can insist all day long that Spider-Man, Voldemort, and leprechauns are on the same level or can be compared to the Bible or belief in God, but it’s not true. You’d look and sound like an absolute raving nutter IRL if you said the same things as you type. Imagine some guy on a street corner mumbling that leprechauns and God are the same? Or telling the ER doctor that Lord Voldermort was looking out for him and he was lucky to be alive? Or he was attending church at United Spider-Man?

Keep raving, nutsos. You think you sound educated and intelligent. Ugh.


Yes, indeed, imagine a crazy person mumbling about fake crap on a street corner. That is exactly how Christians sound to us nonbelievers
Anonymous
Post 09/22/2021 11:25     Subject: Do Atheists believe in the bad angels or demons?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

I believe that Spider Man is a comic book superhero invented by Stan Lee. Is that not true?

I believe Voldemort is the villain in the Harry Potter series, written by JK Rowling. Is that not true?

I believe Leprechauns are charming Irish folktales. Is that not true?



Yep! All true. You don't believe any of them actually exist because there is no evidence they do. This is were we completely agree, and are both agnostic (since we can't prove they don't exist either, we just don't believe they do). Those positions are entirely logical and based on evidence or lack thereof. Excellent!

Now we have established that there is only one set of folktales on which we differ. Why do you hold a different standard for those?


Unfortunately for you, we cannot and do not compare God and the Bible to Harry Potter and Leprechauns and Voldemort. It’s the one thing people here keep insisting upon, and it’s not possible, nor is it done other than in your imaginations.

Scholars, theological scholars, professional authors, editors, publishers, professors and teachers on every level, medical doctors, therapists, every professional person that is accountable and educated: none of them do that. Wikipedia doesn’t do that.

Every poster here can insist all day long that Spider-Man, Voldemort, and leprechauns are on the same level or can be compared to the Bible or belief in God, but it’s not true. You’d look and sound like an absolute raving nutter IRL if you said the same things as you type. Imagine some guy on a street corner mumbling that leprechauns and God are the same? Or telling the ER doctor that Lord Voldermort was looking out for him and he was lucky to be alive? Or he was attending church at United Spider-Man?

Keep raving, nutsos. You think you sound educated and intelligent. Ugh.
Anonymous
Post 09/22/2021 11:08     Subject: Do Atheists believe in the bad angels or demons?
Anonymous wrote:

How are these three things related to God? It’s easy to prove all three of these things are creations of man/woman. We know where each came from and all three are very well known.




Your post is long and thoughtful. But yet you cannot see the irony in your post.

Do you need me to explain it? I am guessing you don't, but I will if you wish.


Yes explain.


Because there is exactly as much evidence for a god as there is for leprechauns. And we know the book known as The Bible was also created by men, just like Harry Potter.