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Anonymous wrote:I am still amazed at how they put $1.8 trillion into that bill and didn’t define what it was for - how exactly the Finance committee intends to spend it.

That's because they are in the process of writing the bill still. Those are just the parameters for the cmtes to write language not the actual bill itself.

Anonymous wrote:I am still amazed at how they put $1.8 trillion into that bill and didn’t define what it was for - how exactly the Finance committee intends to spend it.

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Anonymous wrote:What does Trump have to do with anything?

Yes, we know Biden is better than Trump. So what? Is that all he has to offer? Can we raise the bar a little higher than "well is he better than Trump?"

Why does every counter point on this site have to start with "well Trump..." enough with this

The bar is so much higher already. OP’s trolling and doesn't want to admit that the $3.5 trillion is INSANELY popular with people. We’re so far behind where we ought to be, and this will help us catch up. The GOP does not want us to catch up.

“It’s bloated! It’s not paid for!” Oh my god, so bloated, look at all this unnecessary spending nonsense! Like evening up the playing field for education! Address the forest fires that blanketed the entire country with smoke this summer! They’re even addressing housing? No, say it isn’t so, I love knowing that vets, the mentally ill and my children’s classmates are living on the streets!
“-726 billion for the Health, Labor, Education and Pensions Committee with expansive instructions to address some of Democrats' top priorities. Those areas include universal pre-K for 3- and 4-year-olds, child care for working families, tuition-free community college, funding for historically black colleges and universities and an expansion of the Pell Grant for higher education.
-$107 billion for the Judiciary Committee, including instructions to address "lawful permanent status for qualified immigrants."
-$135 billion for the Committee on Agriculture Nutrition and Forestry, including instructions to address forest fires, reduce carbon emissions and address drought concerns.
-$332 billion for the Banking Committee, including instructions to invest in public housing, the Housing Trust Fund, housing affordability and equity and community land trusts.
-$198 billion for the Energy and Natural Resources Committee, including instructions largely related to clean energy development.” https://www.npr.org/2021/08/09/1026055615/senate-democrats-release-3-5t-budget-framework That article also goes on to say that the Democrats are having to go it alone. Why? Because the GOP is a bunch of sociopaths.

This could be paid for if we could get the IRS the money it needs for enforcement.

But it won’t be because the GOP is actively rooting for the US to fail.

At some point you're going to have to understand that just because you think something is a good idea or should be priority doesn't mean that others do. Not even other democrats.

Agreed.

Also if the Squad doesn’t stop holding up the Infrastructure solo bill which ALREADY passed the Senate they’re going to ruin the best physical development plan since the Civilian Conservation Corps. It needs to get done but if they listen to AOC on this they’re going to end up like her district - out the largest multi-billion investment package in Bronx history because she didn’t like the terms.

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Please post those polls.

DP, but since you asked

and Fox News

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Anonymous wrote:It's sad when someone raises legitimate concerns about her party and her party's leadership (all for the sake of her party), she's immediately doubted or called a troll.

Troll or no troll - some Dems don’t want to spend $3.5 trillion on that bloated bill. Pass Infrastructure alone - which they could have done weeks ago - and stop hanging us up.

What is bloated about it? Be specific.

Dem here and I don’t see this bill as bloated. If anything, it’s addressing long-overdue issues like pre K and healthcare. When are we going to keep up with the rest of the developed world in terms of the way we invest in infrastructure, education, and health?

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Anonymous wrote:It's sad when someone raises legitimate concerns about her party and her party's leadership (all for the sake of her party), she's immediately doubted or called a troll.

Troll or no troll - some Dems don’t want to spend $3.5 trillion on that bloated bill. Pass Infrastructure alone - which they could have done weeks ago - and stop hanging us up.

What is bloated about it? Be specific.

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Anonymous wrote:It's sad when someone raises legitimate concerns about her party and her party's leadership (all for the sake of her party), she's immediately doubted or called a troll.

Troll or no troll - some Dems don’t want to spend $3.5 trillion on that bloated bill. Pass Infrastructure alone - which they could have done weeks ago - and stop hanging us up.

What is bloated about it? Be specific.

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Please post those polls.

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Anonymous wrote:It's sad when someone raises legitimate concerns about her party and her party's leadership (all for the sake of her party), she's immediately doubted or called a troll.

Troll or no troll - some Dems don’t want to spend $3.5 trillion on that bloated bill. Pass Infrastructure alone - which they could have done weeks ago - and stop hanging us up.

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Anonymous wrote:It's sad when someone raises legitimate concerns about her party and her party's leadership (all for the sake of her party), she's immediately doubted or called a troll.

Troll or no troll - some Dems don’t want to spend $3.5 trillion on that bloated bill. Pass Infrastructure alone - which they could have done weeks ago - and stop hanging us up.

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No! Lifting mask mandates when a new variant from a highly populated country was emerging was NOT fine. I remember Fauci on TV at the beginning of June saying that he was concerned about the new variant in India and that was around the time that they stopped pushing the mask mandates and states let people who claimed to be vaccinated go mask-free.

Nevermind the fact that the vaccine doesn't stop you from getting the virus, kids under 12 still don't have approval to get the vaccine and everyone is out and about in the hot summer months.

This was handled terribly.

If people had continued to get vaccinated at the same daily rates in May, June and July as had happened in March and April, then the impacts of Delta would have been far less. But, since that didn't happen - to no fault of Biden, then it is what it is. Sadly, the number of GOP dying is disproportionate to the US population. Oh well.

In the same way you don't use one strategy to get us out of the pandemic, we should not have just relied on vaccinations alone. masks are effective, along with distancing and hand washing. All of those things should have stayed firmly in place until this thing was actually under control. And again - kids under 12 could not be vaccinated and as of today, still can't.

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Anonymous wrote:What does Trump have to do with anything?

Yes, we know Biden is better than Trump. So what? Is that all he has to offer? Can we raise the bar a little higher than "well is he better than Trump?"

Why does every counter point on this site have to start with "well Trump..." enough with this

The bar is so much higher already. OP’s trolling and doesn't want to admit that the $3.5 trillion is INSANELY popular with people. We’re so far behind where we ought to be, and this will help us catch up. The GOP does not want us to catch up.

“It’s bloated! It’s not paid for!” Oh my god, so bloated, look at all this unnecessary spending nonsense! Like evening up the playing field for education! Address the forest fires that blanketed the entire country with smoke this summer! They’re even addressing housing? No, say it isn’t so, I love knowing that vets, the mentally ill and my children’s classmates are living on the streets!
“-726 billion for the Health, Labor, Education and Pensions Committee with expansive instructions to address some of Democrats' top priorities. Those areas include universal pre-K for 3- and 4-year-olds, child care for working families, tuition-free community college, funding for historically black colleges and universities and an expansion of the Pell Grant for higher education.
-$107 billion for the Judiciary Committee, including instructions to address "lawful permanent status for qualified immigrants."
-$135 billion for the Committee on Agriculture Nutrition and Forestry, including instructions to address forest fires, reduce carbon emissions and address drought concerns.
-$332 billion for the Banking Committee, including instructions to invest in public housing, the Housing Trust Fund, housing affordability and equity and community land trusts.
-$198 billion for the Energy and Natural Resources Committee, including instructions largely related to clean energy development.” https://www.npr.org/2021/08/09/1026055615/senate-democrats-release-3-5t-budget-framework That article also goes on to say that the Democrats are having to go it alone. Why? Because the GOP is a bunch of sociopaths.

This could be paid for if we could get the IRS the money it needs for enforcement.

But it won’t be because the GOP is actively rooting for the US to fail.

At some point you're going to have to understand that just because you think something is a good idea or should be priority doesn't mean that others do. Not even other democrats.

At some point you’re going to have to realize that polls show that it’s a great idea and a priority for most of Americans. Even some Republicans.