Anonymous
Post 09/20/2021 21:32     Subject: Catholic schools for atheists

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Anonymous wrote:My wife went to Catholic and Jesuit schools in the 1970's and 80s.

Every school she attended, and the others they interacted with for sports and theater, had athiests, Jews, Muslims, and even some dreaded Protestants. They were welcomed and very much a part of the community.

I know tolerance, community, and human decency have faded since my childhood, but I do believe many Catholic schools still aspire to those values.


I used to think this was true not anymore.

My whole town where I grew up was Irish or Italian Catholic. We were one of four Jewish families. Catholic elementary was right next to public school. Kids go back and forth yearly very common. The priests knew my name. I thought these people were my friends and family. NOPE antisemite, racists who support the Alt-Right. Using Trump trains and boat parades, oh no. I am disgusted by their horrific behavior. No masks, no social distancing no caring for others. Vaccines are worse than injecting themselves with horse and cow meds?

Fast forward to my moving to the DMV as an adult. One of my daughters played on a soccer team from age 11-18 with almost all Catholic families. I knew there were some that were not happy a Jew was on the team, but after Trump, I found that even the ones we thought were our friends were not. Don the Con can do no wrong in their eyes. It's ok to grift and scam and lie????? These are Catholic school parents!

My mistake won't make it again.

Sending your kid to Catholic school for Catholic values, LOL really? Given those Trump trains and boat parades with those good practicing people NAH...

Catholics in SD are going to be in for a rude awakening when Public school prayer in school is a Muslim prayer..... And honestly, it should be or maybe Buddest....


Seek professional help. Or - total troll.
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2021 14:31     Subject: Catholic schools for atheists

Anonymous wrote:No DMV Catholic school has held Trump boat parades. That person sounds unwell.


That person mostly posts on the jobs and real estate forums. He always sounds like that. His style is very identifiable.
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2021 14:24     Subject: Re:Catholic schools for atheists

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Anonymous wrote:I have a Jewish friend who is teaching at a Catholic ES and she very much enjoys it. She respects the beliefs of the school but isn't expected to teach anything to do with the Catholic faith. It really depends on the school.

I am not pretending that this is the norm but there are plenty of Catholic schools that are not dogmatic. You just need to look at the specific school and understand their position.


Could you name them? I mean dogma is literally part of what you learn at Catholic school.


Right. I would be shocked to learn of a catholic school that doesn't have some sort of religious service/chapel scheduled at least 1-2 times a week


Scheduled doesn’t mean you have to attend. Even in the 1980s, the Hindu and Muslim girls at my school were exempt from weekly Mass. They were allowed to sit in the library or the courtyard if the weather was nice.


Everyone has to attend Mass at my dd's middle - Catholic or not.


Who watched the Hindu and Muslim girls while everyone else was at mass? Doesn't sound very safe for those children.
Anonymous
Post 09/19/2021 20:38     Subject: Catholic schools for atheists

No DMV Catholic school has held Trump boat parades. That person sounds unwell.
Anonymous
Post 09/19/2021 20:27     Subject: Re:Catholic schools for atheists

What Catholic school in the DMV has Trump boat parades?!?
Anonymous
Post 09/19/2021 12:35     Subject: Re:Catholic schools for atheists

I'm from a country where 90% of privates are Catholic. The very best schools are Catholic (public schools are horrible). I was raised atheist and never felt I didn't fit in. But then, I never tried to convert anyone, and when friends tried to convert me, I just listened and nodded but ignored. I did attended religious events such as graduation mass, 1st communion, Catholic youth group (went a couple of times when friends invited me), etc.
Anonymous
Post 09/19/2021 10:08     Subject: Catholic schools for atheists

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My wife went to Catholic and Jesuit schools in the 1970's and 80s.

Every school she attended, and the others they interacted with for sports and theater, had athiests, Jews, Muslims, and even some dreaded Protestants. They were welcomed and very much a part of the community.

I know tolerance, community, and human decency have faded since my childhood, but I do believe many Catholic schools still aspire to those values.


I used to think this was true not anymore.

My whole town where I grew up was Irish or Italian Catholic. We were one of four Jewish families. Catholic elementary was right next to public school. Kids go back and forth yearly very common. The priests knew my name. I thought these people were my friends and family. NOPE antisemite, racists who support the Alt-Right. Using Trump trains and boat parades, oh no. I am disgusted by their horrific behavior. No masks, no social distancing no caring for others. Vaccines are worse than injecting themselves with horse and cow meds?

Fast forward to my moving to the DMV as an adult. One of my daughters played on a soccer team from age 11-18 with almost all Catholic families. I knew there were some that were not happy a Jew was on the team, but after Trump, I found that even the ones we thought were our friends were not. Don the Con can do no wrong in their eyes. It's ok to grift and scam and lie????? These are Catholic school parents!

What happened, exactly, to make you say these things?

My mistake won't make it again.

Sending your kid to Catholic school for Catholic values, LOL really? Given those Trump trains and boat parades with those good practicing people NAH...

Catholics in SD are going to be in for a rude awakening when Public school prayer in school is a Muslim prayer..... And honestly, it should be or maybe Buddest....



I'm sorry you encountered Trump supporters who also happened to be Catholic. Most aren't. You would be most welcome in our school; they are the ones who would feel out of place.
Anonymous
Post 09/19/2021 09:48     Subject: Catholic schools for atheists

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Anonymous wrote:Catholic school is an extension of the parish, not a refuge from crappy public schools.


Sure it's a refuge from crappy publics, but it's also a refuge that favors Catholics before others.


Oh please. They aren’t free. They happily take tuition money from anyone willing to pay


Almost always subsidized.


They are usually income based and an additional discount if you are member of the parish affiliated with the school. Plenty of families pay full tuition due to their income and belonging to a different church/place of worship or none at all.


“Full” tuition typically is already subsidized nonetheless.


NP. Full tuition is subsidized by who? Just say what you’re trying to say.


Given what Catholic schools charge compared to pretty much any non public school, I think it would be more correct to say parishoners subsidize the non parishoners =)

Its pretty simple to understand that the Catholic Church, either locally or on a larger scale, helps pay for the Catholic schools. The parishes contribute via tithing, and other monies are received from the church. The reason parishoners get a lower rate is because they are presumed to be already tithing to the church associated with the school.

FWIW, in my experience only actual registered parishoners get the lower rate. We were accepted to a nearby Parochial and it would have been full pay despite the fact we are Catholic because it was not our church and therefore we had not been tithing there. I have no problem with this.




So…what’s your point? That the atheists and non-parishioners are subsidizing the parish students?


Given the cost of catholic schools compared to other non - public schools, I think its safe to say that its the parishoners who subsidize the non parishoner students - the difference in tuition paid is not significant as you may have imagined, at least at k-8, its maybe 1500-2000 difference.


The non-parishioners are paying much more than the parishioners…you realize that, right?


Catholic schools are subsidized by their parishes. The full tuition amount does not cover the full cost of educating the student. If a non-catholic is attending a parochial school and paying full tuition, a portion of the cost of their education is still covered by the parish.
Anonymous
Post 09/19/2021 09:15     Subject: Catholic schools for atheists

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My wife went to Catholic and Jesuit schools in the 1970's and 80s.

Every school she attended, and the others they interacted with for sports and theater, had athiests, Jews, Muslims, and even some dreaded Protestants. They were welcomed and very much a part of the community.

I know tolerance, community, and human decency have faded since my childhood, but I do believe many Catholic schools still aspire to those values.


I used to think this was true not anymore.

My whole town where I grew up was Irish or Italian Catholic. We were one of four Jewish families. Catholic elementary was right next to public school. Kids go back and forth yearly very common. The priests knew my name. I thought these people were my friends and family. NOPE antisemite, racists who support the Alt-Right. Using Trump trains and boat parades, oh no. I am disgusted by their horrific behavior. No masks, no social distancing no caring for others. Vaccines are worse than injecting themselves with horse and cow meds?

Fast forward to my moving to the DMV as an adult. One of my daughters played on a soccer team from age 11-18 with almost all Catholic families. I knew there were some that were not happy a Jew was on the team, but after Trump, I found that even the ones we thought were our friends were not. Don the Con can do no wrong in their eyes. It's ok to grift and scam and lie????? These are Catholic school parents!

What happened, exactly, to make you say these things?

My mistake won't make it again.

Sending your kid to Catholic school for Catholic values, LOL really? Given those Trump trains and boat parades with those good practicing people NAH...

Catholics in SD are going to be in for a rude awakening when Public school prayer in school is a Muslim prayer..... And honestly, it should be or maybe Buddest....
Anonymous
Post 09/18/2021 22:01     Subject: Catholic schools for atheists

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Anonymous wrote:Catholic school is an extension of the parish, not a refuge from crappy public schools.


Sure it's a refuge from crappy publics, but it's also a refuge that favors Catholics before others.


Oh please. They aren’t free. They happily take tuition money from anyone willing to pay


Almost always subsidized.


They are usually income based and an additional discount if you are member of the parish affiliated with the school. Plenty of families pay full tuition due to their income and belonging to a different church/place of worship or none at all.


“Full” tuition typically is already subsidized nonetheless.


NP. Full tuition is subsidized by who? Just say what you’re trying to say.


Given what Catholic schools charge compared to pretty much any non public school, I think it would be more correct to say parishoners subsidize the non parishoners =)

Its pretty simple to understand that the Catholic Church, either locally or on a larger scale, helps pay for the Catholic schools. The parishes contribute via tithing, and other monies are received from the church. The reason parishoners get a lower rate is because they are presumed to be already tithing to the church associated with the school.

FWIW, in my experience only actual registered parishoners get the lower rate. We were accepted to a nearby Parochial and it would have been full pay despite the fact we are Catholic because it was not our church and therefore we had not been tithing there. I have no problem with this.




So…what’s your point? That the atheists and non-parishioners are subsidizing the parish students?


Given the cost of catholic schools compared to other non - public schools, I think its safe to say that its the parishoners who subsidize the non parishoner students - the difference in tuition paid is not significant as you may have imagined, at least at k-8, its maybe 1500-2000 difference.


The non-parishioners are paying much more than the parishioners…you realize that, right?
Anonymous
Post 09/18/2021 21:52     Subject: Catholic schools for atheists

Anonymous wrote:My wife went to Catholic and Jesuit schools in the 1970's and 80s.

Every school she attended, and the others they interacted with for sports and theater, had athiests, Jews, Muslims, and even some dreaded Protestants. They were welcomed and very much a part of the community.

I know tolerance, community, and human decency have faded since my childhood, but I do believe many Catholic schools still aspire to those values.


I used to think this was true not anymore.

My whole town where I grew up was Irish or Italian Catholic. We were one of four Jewish families. Catholic elementary was right next to public school. Kids go back and forth yearly very common. The priests knew my name. I thought these people were my friends and family. NOPE antisemite, racists who support the Alt-Right. Using Trump trains and boat parades, oh no. I am disgusted by their horrific behavior. No masks, no social distancing no caring for others. Vaccines are worse than injecting themselves with horse and cow meds?

Fast forward to my moving to the DMV as an adult. One of my daughters played on a soccer team from age 11-18 with almost all Catholic families. I knew there were some that were not happy a Jew was on the team, but after Trump, I found that even the ones we thought were our friends were not. Don the Con can do no wrong in their eyes. It's ok to grift and scam and lie????? These are Catholic school parents!

My mistake won't make it again.

Sending your kid to Catholic school for Catholic values, LOL really? Given those Trump trains and boat parades with those good practicing people NAH...

Catholics in SD are going to be in for a rude awakening when Public school prayer in school is a Muslim prayer..... And honestly, it should be or maybe Buddest....
Anonymous
Post 09/18/2021 21:41     Subject: Catholic schools for atheists

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Catholic school is an extension of the parish, not a refuge from crappy public schools.


Sure it's a refuge from crappy publics, but it's also a refuge that favors Catholics before others.


Oh please. They aren’t free. They happily take tuition money from anyone willing to pay


Almost always subsidized.


They are usually income based and an additional discount if you are member of the parish affiliated with the school. Plenty of families pay full tuition due to their income and belonging to a different church/place of worship or none at all.


“Full” tuition typically is already subsidized nonetheless.


NP. Full tuition is subsidized by who? Just say what you’re trying to say.


Given what Catholic schools charge compared to pretty much any non public school, I think it would be more correct to say parishoners subsidize the non parishoners =)

Its pretty simple to understand that the Catholic Church, either locally or on a larger scale, helps pay for the Catholic schools. The parishes contribute via tithing, and other monies are received from the church. The reason parishoners get a lower rate is because they are presumed to be already tithing to the church associated with the school.

FWIW, in my experience only actual registered parishoners get the lower rate. We were accepted to a nearby Parochial and it would have been full pay despite the fact we are Catholic because it was not our church and therefore we had not been tithing there. I have no problem with this.




So…what’s your point? That the atheists and non-parishioners are subsidizing the parish students?


Given the cost of catholic schools compared to other non - public schools, I think its safe to say that its the parishoners who subsidize the non parishoner students - the difference in tuition paid is not significant as you may have imagined, at least at k-8, its maybe 1500-2000 difference.
Anonymous
Post 09/18/2021 10:55     Subject: Catholic schools for atheists

The former Archbishop of Washington has said that we don’t teach them because they are Catholic. We teach them because we are.

This is a good way for Catholics to act in all areas. We do things for others because we are Catholic and it is what we should do.
Anonymous
Post 09/18/2021 10:45     Subject: Catholic schools for atheists

My wife went to Catholic and Jesuit schools in the 1970's and 80s.

Every school she attended, and the others they interacted with for sports and theater, had athiests, Jews, Muslims, and even some dreaded Protestants. They were welcomed and very much a part of the community.

I know tolerance, community, and human decency have faded since my childhood, but I do believe many Catholic schools still aspire to those values.
Anonymous
Post 09/18/2021 10:27     Subject: Catholic schools for atheists

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Catholic school is an extension of the parish, not a refuge from crappy public schools.


Sure it's a refuge from crappy publics, but it's also a refuge that favors Catholics before others.


Oh please. They aren’t free. They happily take tuition money from anyone willing to pay


Almost always subsidized.


They are usually income based and an additional discount if you are member of the parish affiliated with the school. Plenty of families pay full tuition due to their income and belonging to a different church/place of worship or none at all.


“Full” tuition typically is already subsidized nonetheless.


NP. Full tuition is subsidized by who? Just say what you’re trying to say.


Its pretty simple to understand that the Catholic Church, either locally or on a larger scale, helps pay for the Catholic schools. The parishes contribute via tithing, and other monies are received from the church. The reason parishoners get a lower rate is because they are presumed to be already tithing to the church associated with the school.

FWIW, in my experience only actual registered parishoners get the lower rate. We were accepted to a nearby Parochial and it would have been full pay despite the fact we are Catholic because it was not our church and therefore we had not been tithing there. I have no problem with this.


So…what’s your point? That the atheists and non-parishioners are subsidizing the parish students?