Anonymous
09/13/2021 19:19
Subject: Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The boyfriend has lawyer'd up and refuses to cooperate with police. If I had to guess, the police are likely focusing on retracing the GPS history of their phones.
People like this always have their phones on them.
I don't understand why guilty people do this and think it will work and they will get away with it.
Because sometimes it DOES work.
Innocent until proven guilty, and all that.
Refusing to cooperate with police is not something an innocent person does.
Yep. This is not “we broke up and I dropped her off in the next town”. This is now a recovery operation.
Exactly. They were supposedly heading to Yellowstone at the end of August, and then her family didn't hear from her again. And all of a sudden their "van life" trip is cut short because he shows up all the way back in FL with the van, but without her, and it was her mother who reported her missing, not him.
Ugh. Just lock him up and throw away the key; he clearly murdered her.
No need for a costly show trial.
Are we saying he should not be tried fairly in a court of law? No. It may surprise you to learn that random comments on DCUM are not the same thing as an actual trial or conviction.
But come on. Are you one of those people who is just absolutely gobsmacked when it turns out the 8-months-pregnant lady got murdered by her boyfriend? That the wife who “went for a jog” and never came back was killed by her husband? Or that the girl who went missing a couple weeks ago while her boyfriend arrived back home is not just wandering around safe and sound with her cell phone turned off?
Anonymous
09/13/2021 19:15
Subject: Re:Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
Am I the only one who doesn't think he planned to kill her? Like - it's easy enough to imagine a scenario where they're alone in the van, he pushes for sex, she says no/get off me, and it spirals from there.
I still can't get a grip on his age but he looks at least late 20s and she just turned 22.
I still can't get a grip on his age but he looks at least late 20s and she just turned 22.
Anonymous
09/13/2021 19:09
Subject: Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
Going on a documented trip is the perfect alibi, like basic instinct.
Anonymous
09/13/2021 17:04
Subject: Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
Anonymous wrote:Websleuths are now on the case:
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/threads/wy-gabrielle-%E2%80%98gabby%E2%80%99-petito-22-grand-teton-national-park-25-aug-2021-road-trip-w-bf.586258/
Websleuths helped find a college friend of mine several years ago when she went missing (she had driven her car off a cliff). Without them they never would have found her IMO. Hopefully with this case it helps too.
Anonymous
09/13/2021 16:56
Subject: Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
Looking more at their social media, I wonder if they took some drugs while out in the wilderness and she wandered off? He may have passed out and awoke, not knowing her location. He freaks out and drives home, not wanting to be an accessory to her disappearance.
I know this is a stretch, but their social media seemed to be very happy. Then again, no one is "keepin' it real" on social media accounts where you're trying to be cute & get sponsorships.
Her own dad described her as a "very very very freespirit." It leads me to believe drugs were involved.
A renegade version of Burning Man was held in northern Nevada right after she disappeared. It's not a far drive from Utah - maybe 6 to 8 hours. It was 100% free this year, so would appeal to "vanlife" folks.
I know this is a stretch, but their social media seemed to be very happy. Then again, no one is "keepin' it real" on social media accounts where you're trying to be cute & get sponsorships.
Her own dad described her as a "very very very freespirit." It leads me to believe drugs were involved.
A renegade version of Burning Man was held in northern Nevada right after she disappeared. It's not a far drive from Utah - maybe 6 to 8 hours. It was 100% free this year, so would appeal to "vanlife" folks.
Anonymous
09/13/2021 14:15
Subject: Re:Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So many of these threads. I think Jeff needs to create a new section for True Crime or Mysterious Deaths.
I think this is a GREAT idea!
It would quickly turn into NextDoor:
“There was a man sitting in a car. I’m not racist, but he was Black and none of my neighbors are Black so I don’t know why he was there for 15 min looking at his phone. Has anyone been broken into or had something missing lately?”
Anonymous
09/13/2021 14:13
Subject: Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The boyfriend has lawyer'd up and refuses to cooperate with police. If I had to guess, the police are likely focusing on retracing the GPS history of their phones.
People like this always have their phones on them.
I don't understand why guilty people do this and think it will work and they will get away with it.
Because sometimes it DOES work.
Innocent until proven guilty, and all that.
Refusing to cooperate with police is not something an innocent person does.
Yep. This is not “we broke up and I dropped her off in the next town”. This is now a recovery operation.
Exactly. They were supposedly heading to Yellowstone at the end of August, and then her family didn't hear from her again. And all of a sudden their "van life" trip is cut short because he shows up all the way back in FL with the van, but without her, and it was her mother who reported her missing, not him.
Ugh. Just lock him up and throw away the key; he clearly murdered her.
No need for a costly show trial.
Anonymous
09/13/2021 14:11
Subject: Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:80% chance he walks. It sounds like he has a bit of money to be able to afford an attorney. He likely already destroyed and disposed of his and her phones a long time ago, so cops wont have that evidence to use. He will claim that she decided to break up with him during the trip and she decided to hitchhike. The van was owned by him, IIRC.
The van will have her DNA all over it, but likely nothing that indicates a crime. He most likely killed her outside the van.
The police will retrace his route by looking at his transactions (he probably didn't pay for gas in cash on a cross country drive) and the mobile phone tower pings. Whenever he shut off the phones, that's likely when she died.
Completely disagree. Not with the insane amount of location and other data available these days. They don’t need her physical phone for that.
And let’s be real. If he just showed up back in town without any kind of excuse, or story of what happened, this guy isn’t exactly playing 3D chess.
Yes, physical phones are not needed. Prosecutors can go directly to cell And internet companies for texts, hone records, emails, etc....
Anonymous
09/13/2021 14:10
Subject: Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
Anonymous
09/13/2021 14:09
Subject: Re:Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
People are doing deep dives in both of their instagram accounts and finding things that don't add up/discrepancies with the posts during the trip. Very interesting. Have the reddit sleuths picked up this story yet?
Where is this discussion?
nm, I see it's in the IG comments on her photos
Anonymous
09/13/2021 14:01
Subject: Re:Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
Anonymous wrote:
People are doing deep dives in both of their instagram accounts and finding things that don't add up/discrepancies with the posts during the trip. Very interesting. Have the reddit sleuths picked up this story yet?
Where is this discussion?
Anonymous
09/13/2021 13:58
Subject: Re:Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
People are doing deep dives in both of their instagram accounts and finding things that don't add up/discrepancies with the posts during the trip. Very interesting. Have the reddit sleuths picked up this story yet?
Anonymous
09/13/2021 13:17
Subject: Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
Can we maybe NOT plan out how to murder women? That’s just creepy.Anonymous wrote:Would’ve made more sense got him to whack her out in the middle of nowhere, keep her phone on, make calls to businesses or whatever and occasional texts to her contacts so it implied that they were returning. Leave a trail all the way back across the country. Maybe even tell one of her friends (on her phone) she was breaking up because she met a new guy with more money/bigger penis/better van/whatever and was planning to meet him at a spot on the way back.
Then he ditches the phone at that spot and trail goes cold. Still lots of potential pitfalls with this plan, too, but it’s better than what he’s got right now.
Woulda made more sense to just keep her phone drive away from her in the desert. She’d be dead from heat exposure within a few hours. Then he could say they had a fight and she stormed off in a huff.
Anonymous
09/13/2021 12:42
Subject: Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
Would’ve made more sense got him to whack her out in the middle of nowhere, keep her phone on, make calls to businesses or whatever and occasional texts to her contacts so it implied that they were returning. Leave a trail all the way back across the country. Maybe even tell one of her friends (on her phone) she was breaking up because she met a new guy with more money/bigger penis/better van/whatever and was planning to meet him at a spot on the way back.
Then he ditches the phone at that spot and trail goes cold. Still lots of potential pitfalls with this plan, too, but it’s better than what he’s got right now.
Woulda made more sense to just keep her phone drive away from her in the desert. She’d be dead from heat exposure within a few hours. Then he could say they had a fight and she stormed off in a huff.
Then he ditches the phone at that spot and trail goes cold. Still lots of potential pitfalls with this plan, too, but it’s better than what he’s got right now.
Woulda made more sense to just keep her phone drive away from her in the desert. She’d be dead from heat exposure within a few hours. Then he could say they had a fight and she stormed off in a huff.
Anonymous
09/13/2021 12:41
Subject: Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
What I want to know:
Was this a fit of rage & unplanned? Or is he a legit psychopath and it was premeditated?
If the latter, it leads me to believe that he will have something in his search history that can be used to establish motive or means. But he will also probably also more capably conceal physical evidence.
If the former, he will probably make mistakes with the physical evidence.
Was this a fit of rage & unplanned? Or is he a legit psychopath and it was premeditated?
If the latter, it leads me to believe that he will have something in his search history that can be used to establish motive or means. But he will also probably also more capably conceal physical evidence.
If the former, he will probably make mistakes with the physical evidence.