Anonymous
09/10/2021 13:51
Subject: Re:[APS] Who is funding newly-incorporated APE
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Funded only by parents of children currently enrolled in Arlington schools?
I'm not jealous, but I am suspicious, because these seems like gathering of the most annoying, entitled white parents on AEM. Or possibly formerly on AEM; I don't keep up with it especially closely.
Well Simone has joined the discussion.
Sitting back with my popcorn.
Quoted poster, and not Symone.
Still waiting to hear if all donors are parents of children currently enrolled in APS.
And what % are Rs?
Anonymous
09/10/2021 13:47
Subject: Re:[APS] Who is funding newly-incorporated APE
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Funded only by parents of children currently enrolled in Arlington schools?
I'm not jealous, but I am suspicious, because these seems like gathering of the most annoying, entitled white parents on AEM. Or possibly formerly on AEM; I don't keep up with it especially closely.
Well Simone has joined the discussion.
Sitting back with my popcorn.
Quoted poster, and not Symone.
Still waiting to hear if all donors are parents of children currently enrolled in APS.
Anonymous
09/10/2021 13:33
Subject: [APS] Who is funding newly-incorporated APE
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Are any of you paying attention to what APE is trying to accomplish? They are investing and volunteering time/effort and energy into the serious issues with the APS administration. I really do not care where the heck funding comes from, but I do care about the decline in our student's education for the past 18 months.
I'm not going to rehash all the data that shows how terribly APS handled the pandemic, and how pathetic their approach to learning loss is. (no big surprise as they only want to pat themselves on the back rather than admit learning loss is real).
Sadly I pulled my kids from APS (the writing was on the wall that APS is in complete disarray).
My 4th grader is operating at 2nd grade math level. Fortunately his new school is devoting extra resources and effort to get him to where he needs to be. But the administration was shocked at how much instruction did not happen for the past year and a half. Guess what - they went through the same damn pandemic as APS.
My 6th grader is in a similar situation, but not as bad as my youngest. The younger grades never should have been remote for so long, in addition to asynchronous Mondays and shortened school days.
I'm furious (still) with APS because these kids deserve better. An administration that actually cares and engages the community is very necessary right now, and sadly I think the pressure from APE is the only way to potentially get there.
Serious question. Why are you still following this so closely if your kids don't go to APS? Isn't the point of leaving that you don't have to deal with it anymore?
I care about my friends, their kids and property value
anyone who had kids in APS from March 2020 until June 2021 has every right to be bitter and angry.
Anonymous
09/10/2021 13:15
Subject: [APS] Who is funding newly-incorporated APE
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Are any of you paying attention to what APE is trying to accomplish? They are investing and volunteering time/effort and energy into the serious issues with the APS administration. I really do not care where the heck funding comes from, but I do care about the decline in our student's education for the past 18 months.
I'm not going to rehash all the data that shows how terribly APS handled the pandemic, and how pathetic their approach to learning loss is. (no big surprise as they only want to pat themselves on the back rather than admit learning loss is real).
Sadly I pulled my kids from APS (the writing was on the wall that APS is in complete disarray).
My 4th grader is operating at 2nd grade math level. Fortunately his new school is devoting extra resources and effort to get him to where he needs to be. But the administration was shocked at how much instruction did not happen for the past year and a half. Guess what - they went through the same damn pandemic as APS.
My 6th grader is in a similar situation, but not as bad as my youngest. The younger grades never should have been remote for so long, in addition to asynchronous Mondays and shortened school days.
I'm furious (still) with APS because these kids deserve better. An administration that actually cares and engages the community is very necessary right now, and sadly I think the pressure from APE is the only way to potentially get there.
Serious question. Why are you still following this so closely if your kids don't go to APS? Isn't the point of leaving that you don't have to deal with it anymore?
I care about my friends, their kids and property value
Anonymous
09/10/2021 13:11
Subject: [APS] Who is funding newly-incorporated APE
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Are any of you paying attention to what APE is trying to accomplish? They are investing and volunteering time/effort and energy into the serious issues with the APS administration. I really do not care where the heck funding comes from, but I do care about the decline in our student's education for the past 18 months.
The funding matters because that is who drives the "serious issues" they are pushing.
The astroturfing efforts exploit disgruntled parents like PP by amplifying these "issues" and using the the resulting chaos/discord to move towards defunding schools or other political goals.
Which issue is it that you’re so concerned about? They’re all posted right here. https://www.arlingtonparentsforeducation.org/
What is APE's position on APS screening / testing?
Anonymous
09/10/2021 13:10
Subject: Re:[APS] Who is funding newly-incorporated APE
Anonymous wrote:There's no winning with OP. Form a non-profit where donors are public, and the AEM queen bees will dox you and try to make you a pariah in your own school. Form a non-profit where the donors are anonymous, and you're a dark-money conspiracy intent on bringing Q-Anon, Intelligent Design, and Koch bros. into APS. (all at once!)
I can't speak for what happens on AEM, but I'm suspicious of all attempts to astroturf in our area.
One of the astroturfing groups wreaking havoc in FCPS is actually based in Arlington.
https://www.cbs19news.com/story/44644661/tea-party-20-conservatives-get-organized-in-school-battles
That group had similar positions to APE about opening schools, etc. It's reasonable to ask if they are working together.
Anonymous
09/10/2021 13:05
Subject: [APS] Who is funding newly-incorporated APE
Anonymous wrote:
Arlington schools are not so terribly important that some secret dark money web is funding a parent group to advocate for less ipad time are for smaller class sizes.
That is exactly what astroturfing is. Fake "grassroots" efforts to achieve bigger goals.
https://www.cbs19news.com/story/44644661/tea-party-20-conservatives-get-organized-in-school-battles
”A loose network of conservative groups with ties to major Republican donors and party-aligned think tanks is quietly lending firepower to local activists engaged in culture war fights in schools across the country.
While they are drawn by the anger of parents opposed to school policies on racial history or COVID-19 protocols like mask mandates, the groups are often run by political operatives and lawyers standing ready to amplify local disputes.”
OpenSchoolsNow! No masks/testing! Anti-"CRT"! Anti-LQBTQ!
Anonymous
09/10/2021 13:04
Subject: Re:[APS] Who is funding newly-incorporated APE
Most APE's don't have kids in APS anymore
Anonymous
09/10/2021 13:00
Subject: [APS] Who is funding newly-incorporated APE
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Let me explain to you how non-profits work. People work to get a paycheck. They then decide who they'd like to give money to. Then they donate to them.
There you go!
Do you ask Habitat for Humanity or American Cancer Society Cancer Action Network or any other 501 c3 or c4 for their list of donors? 501 c 4's aren't even tax exempt so it's not like there is a benefit for donors.
If you disagree with APE advocacy, form your own group. That's the genius idea of freedom of opinion, thought and expression.
C4's nor C3's form to 'hide money' it's the mechanism the IRS uses to ensure donations are tracked and not misused. You sound like a Q conspiracy theorist.
Arlington schools are not so terribly important that some secret dark money web is funding a parent group to advocate for less ipad time are for smaller class sizes. The horror.
Gaslighting 101 - when people call you out on your lying and manipulation, accuse them of over-reacting and and imagining things.
What is the lying and manipulation you are calling out, specifically?
Anonymous
09/10/2021 12:59
Subject: Re:[APS] Who is funding newly-incorporated APE
There's no winning with OP. Form a non-profit where donors are public, and the AEM queen bees will dox you and try to make you a pariah in your own school. Form a non-profit where the donors are anonymous, and you're a dark-money conspiracy intent on bringing Q-Anon, Intelligent Design, and Koch bros. into APS. (all at once!)
Anonymous
09/10/2021 12:59
Subject: [APS] Who is funding newly-incorporated APE
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Are any of you paying attention to what APE is trying to accomplish? They are investing and volunteering time/effort and energy into the serious issues with the APS administration. I really do not care where the heck funding comes from, but I do care about the decline in our student's education for the past 18 months.
The funding matters because that is who drives the "serious issues" they are pushing.
The astroturfing efforts exploit disgruntled parents like PP by amplifying these "issues" and using the the resulting chaos/discord to move towards defunding schools or other political goals.
Which issue is it that you’re so concerned about? They’re all posted right here. https://www.arlingtonparentsforeducation.org/
Anonymous
09/10/2021 12:52
Subject: [APS] Who is funding newly-incorporated APE
Anonymous wrote:Are any of you paying attention to what APE is trying to accomplish? They are investing and volunteering time/effort and energy into the serious issues with the APS administration. I really do not care where the heck funding comes from, but I do care about the decline in our student's education for the past 18 months.
The funding matters because that is who drives the "serious issues" they are pushing.
The astroturfing efforts exploit disgruntled parents like PP by amplifying these "issues" and using the the resulting chaos/discord to move towards defunding schools or other political goals.
Anonymous
09/10/2021 12:51
Subject: [APS] Who is funding newly-incorporated APE
Anonymous wrote:Let me explain to you how non-profits work. People work to get a paycheck. They then decide who they'd like to give money to. Then they donate to them.
There you go!
Do you ask Habitat for Humanity or American Cancer Society Cancer Action Network or any other 501 c3 or c4 for their list of donors? 501 c 4's aren't even tax exempt so it's not like there is a benefit for donors.
If you disagree with APE advocacy, form your own group. That's the genius idea of freedom of opinion, thought and expression.
C4's nor C3's form to 'hide money' it's the mechanism the IRS uses to ensure donations are tracked and not misused. You sound like a Q conspiracy theorist.
Arlington schools are not so terribly important that some secret dark money web is funding a parent group to advocate for less ipad time are for smaller class sizes. The horror.
Gaslighting 101 - when people call you out on your lying and manipulation, accuse them of over-reacting and and imagining things.
Anonymous
09/10/2021 12:43
Subject: [APS] Who is funding newly-incorporated APE
Anonymous wrote:Are any of you paying attention to what APE is trying to accomplish? They are investing and volunteering time/effort and energy into the serious issues with the APS administration. I really do not care where the heck funding comes from, but I do care about the decline in our student's education for the past 18 months.
I'm not going to rehash all the data that shows how terribly APS handled the pandemic, and how pathetic their approach to learning loss is. (no big surprise as they only want to pat themselves on the back rather than admit learning loss is real).
Sadly I pulled my kids from APS (the writing was on the wall that APS is in complete disarray).
My 4th grader is operating at 2nd grade math level. Fortunately his new school is devoting extra resources and effort to get him to where he needs to be. But the administration was shocked at how much instruction did not happen for the past year and a half. Guess what - they went through the same damn pandemic as APS.
My 6th grader is in a similar situation, but not as bad as my youngest. The younger grades never should have been remote for so long, in addition to asynchronous Mondays and shortened school days.
I'm furious (still) with APS because these kids deserve better. An administration that actually cares and engages the community is very necessary right now, and sadly I think the pressure from APE is the only way to potentially get there.
Serious question. Why are you still following this so closely if your kids don't go to APS? Isn't the point of leaving that you don't have to deal with it anymore?
Anonymous
09/10/2021 12:43
Subject: [APS] Who is funding newly-incorporated APE
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Let me explain to you how non-profits work. People work to get a paycheck. They then decide who they'd like to give money to. Then they donate to them.
There you go!
Do you ask Habitat for Humanity or American Cancer Society Cancer Action Network or any other 501 c3 or c4 for their list of donors? 501 c 4's aren't even tax exempt so it's not like there is a benefit for donors.
If you disagree with APE advocacy, form your own group. That's the genius idea of freedom of opinion, thought and expression.
C4's nor C3's form to 'hide money' it's the mechanism the IRS uses to ensure donations are tracked and not misused. You sound like a Q conspiracy theorist.
Arlington schools are not so terribly important that some secret dark money web is funding a parent group to advocate for less ipad time are for smaller class sizes. The horror.
If APE wanted to be a non profit they could have incorporated as a 501c3.
They chose not to though. They are a lobbying and astroturf group that does not have to disclose who donates to it.
You obviously don't understand the tax code. 501c3's are also not obligated to disclose donors publicly. They do file 990s (same for c4s). I'm beginning to understand why some think there is something afoot. You don't understand the basics of the way 501c3's and 501c4's work. I highly encourage you to look up the code and read a little before you come onto a site trying to accuse a group of doing something disingenuous or nefarious. Here's some info on 990s https://www.irs.gov/charities-non-profits/exempt-organization-annual-filing-requirements-overview
Don't they have to disclose any donors over $5k?
C3s have to disclose donors to the IRS. Not to the public.
But the 990s (with donor info) are public - aren't they?
Not unless they made a mistake. There is a public disclosure copy with a schedule b that only shows amounts and no names. That’s what’s posted.