Anonymous
Post 05/21/2024 17:12     Subject: ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:WAGS is not very competitive. JeffCup matches teams with similar standings and is more recent measure of ability.

Bethesda couldn't beat the #1 team in the MA (CSA). Union went on to beat CSA easily. It's weird that Bethesda would currently be considered better than Union.


VDA played Brave, BSC, and Ukrainian Nationals in WAGs. Given 2 of the 3 are being discussed here, it seems like a fair comparison. You can say it was a long time ago, but it’s a head to head result from this season. You have to draw the line somewhere, and ECNL keeps season standings for a reason.

Other head to head results from this season

- Losses to CSA by a combined 5 goals across 2 games.
- 4-0 loss to Brave in the first game. Tie in the second.
- A tie against Arlington and a 1 goal win over Union.

Didn’t VDA also lose badly to FCV in the fall? I have nothing against them, but this feels like recency bias based on a single 1 goal victory, and ignoring September through March.


VDA has never played FCV.
Anonymous
Post 05/21/2024 16:04     Subject: ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership

Anonymous wrote:WAGS is not very competitive. JeffCup matches teams with similar standings and is more recent measure of ability.

Bethesda couldn't beat the #1 team in the MA (CSA). Union went on to beat CSA easily. It's weird that Bethesda would currently be considered better than Union.


VDA played Brave, BSC, and Ukrainian Nationals in WAGs. Given 2 of the 3 are being discussed here, it seems like a fair comparison. You can say it was a long time ago, but it’s a head to head result from this season. You have to draw the line somewhere, and ECNL keeps season standings for a reason.

Other head to head results from this season

- Losses to CSA by a combined 5 goals across 2 games.
- 4-0 loss to Brave in the first game. Tie in the second.
- A tie against Arlington and a 1 goal win over Union.

Didn’t VDA also lose badly to FCV in the fall? I have nothing against them, but this feels like recency bias based on a single 1 goal victory, and ignoring September through March.
Anonymous
Post 05/21/2024 16:04     Subject: ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership

I vote to split this club up so you all can stop sucking up internet bandwidth with all of your nonsense.
Anonymous
Post 05/21/2024 15:50     Subject: ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership

Do you smell that?

I think it smells like 300!!
Anonymous
Post 05/21/2024 15:40     Subject: ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership

Just let your kid play. You all are too involved. Sucks for your kid.
Anonymous
Post 05/21/2024 15:39     Subject: ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership

WAGS is not very competitive. JeffCup matches teams with similar standings and is more recent measure of ability.

Bethesda couldn't beat the #1 team in the MA (CSA). Union went on to beat CSA easily. It's weird that Bethesda would currently be considered better than Union.
Anonymous
Post 05/21/2024 14:41     Subject: ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership

Anonymous wrote:Bethesda didn't make it to the final of JeffCup. How are they even in the conversation?


If Jefferson cup is what you’re using to judge, then Union is the best team around. Are you the one using WAGS too?
Anonymous
Post 05/21/2024 14:31     Subject: ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership

Bethesda didn't make it to the final of JeffCup. How are they even in the conversation?
Anonymous
Post 05/21/2024 14:18     Subject: ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:The lackluster results of late are the new norm not a bump in the road. The team knows who is leaving and staying and the disjointed soccer will continue. ML refusal to add quality players means that some of his top players are too comfortable in their roles, not being pushed day in and day out. The ecnl caliber players who may be smaller, or more technical but only playing half the game are the ones on the out. And then there are the ones in his pocket or Unions. IDK, buts its obvious to everyone involved and not involved at this point. Will the Brave girls and FVU infrastructure help? Of course but with all due respect there is 1maybe 2 players there better than anyone on the current Union roster. The additions don't outweigh the subractions and the leeches remain, sucking playing time from better players cause ML can't not answer the phone


What age group? I assume 10s?

That Brave group moving over is very talented, includes 2 players invited to USWNT ID camps, many will clearly start day one, and all of them will challenge for starting positions.

You can say what you want about coaching, coming together as a team, etc. but from a sheer talent perspective, FVU 10s will be as loaded as anyone in the area in the fall. If they don’t win, it’s not because VDA, Arlington or Loudoun has better players.


Union 10 is a good team. Not a great team. Why do you continue to discredit other local teams? Union isn’t even the outright best 2010 team in NOVA or DMV.

Bethesda and VDA are both better teams but don’t necessarily have the players that have grown early.


One thing people fail to discuss here is how much money these Union parents are pouring into their kids outside of the team. Does the Brave group do this as well? If they don’t they better start because this stuff is about to get very complex.

Bethesda, NVA, and arguably Brave after their last win vs Union are better teams. The biggest winner in the last 3 months is VDA. Their rosters are STACKED, especially BPs 10’group.



Wait, NVA, with their losing record and -17 GD is better than Union, with nearly 4x as many wins as losses, and a +46 GD?

Jeff Cup was 2 months ago. Union won the top flight, VDA didn’t even make the final in the second flight, and NVA didn’t make the final in the 4th.

Didn’t VDA go winless in WAGs this year? It feels like we’re jumping the gun on other teams ascending over Union here.


Bethesda, Union/VDA, BRAVE. In that order. Nobody else comes close.
Anonymous
Post 05/21/2024 14:17     Subject: ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The lackluster results of late are the new norm not a bump in the road. The team knows who is leaving and staying and the disjointed soccer will continue. ML refusal to add quality players means that some of his top players are too comfortable in their roles, not being pushed day in and day out. The ecnl caliber players who may be smaller, or more technical but only playing half the game are the ones on the out. And then there are the ones in his pocket or Unions. IDK, buts its obvious to everyone involved and not involved at this point. Will the Brave girls and FVU infrastructure help? Of course but with all due respect there is 1maybe 2 players there better than anyone on the current Union roster. The additions don't outweigh the subractions and the leeches remain, sucking playing time from better players cause ML can't not answer the phone


What age group? I assume 10s?

That Brave group moving over is very talented, includes 2 players invited to USWNT ID camps, many will clearly start day one, and all of them will challenge for starting positions.

You can say what you want about coaching, coming together as a team, etc. but from a sheer talent perspective, FVU 10s will be as loaded as anyone in the area in the fall. If they don’t win, it’s not because VDA, Arlington or Loudoun has better players.


Union 10 is a good team. Not a great team. Why do you continue to discredit other local teams? Union isn’t even the outright best 2010 team in NOVA or DMV.

Bethesda and VDA are both better teams but don’t necessarily have the players that have grown early.


One thing people fail to discuss here is how much money these Union parents are pouring into their kids outside of the team. Does the Brave group do this as well? If they don’t they better start because this stuff is about to get very complex.

Bethesda, NVA, and arguably Brave after their last win vs Union are better teams. The biggest winner in the last 3 months is VDA. Their rosters are STACKED, especially BPs 10’group.



Wait, NVA, with their losing record and -17 GD is better than Union, with nearly 4x as many wins as losses, and a +46 GD?

Jeff Cup was 2 months ago. Union won the top flight, VDA didn’t even make the final in the second flight, and NVA didn’t make the final in the 4th.

Didn’t VDA go winless in WAGs this year? It feels like we’re jumping the gun on other teams ascending over Union here.


WAGS? Wasn’t that in the first week of October? You should bring up preseason scrimmages too. Union and VDA play tomorrow for the second time in 3 weeks. Probably a tie.
Anonymous
Post 05/21/2024 13:16     Subject: ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The lackluster results of late are the new norm not a bump in the road. The team knows who is leaving and staying and the disjointed soccer will continue. ML refusal to add quality players means that some of his top players are too comfortable in their roles, not being pushed day in and day out. The ecnl caliber players who may be smaller, or more technical but only playing half the game are the ones on the out. And then there are the ones in his pocket or Unions. IDK, buts its obvious to everyone involved and not involved at this point. Will the Brave girls and FVU infrastructure help? Of course but with all due respect there is 1maybe 2 players there better than anyone on the current Union roster. The additions don't outweigh the subractions and the leeches remain, sucking playing time from better players cause ML can't not answer the phone


What age group? I assume 10s?

That Brave group moving over is very talented, includes 2 players invited to USWNT ID camps, many will clearly start day one, and all of them will challenge for starting positions.

You can say what you want about coaching, coming together as a team, etc. but from a sheer talent perspective, FVU 10s will be as loaded as anyone in the area in the fall. If they don’t win, it’s not because VDA, Arlington or Loudoun has better players.


Union 10 is a good team. Not a great team. Why do you continue to discredit other local teams? Union isn’t even the outright best 2010 team in NOVA or DMV.

Bethesda and VDA are both better teams but don’t necessarily have the players that have grown early.


One thing people fail to discuss here is how much money these Union parents are pouring into their kids outside of the team. Does the Brave group do this as well? If they don’t they better start because this stuff is about to get very complex.

Bethesda, NVA, and arguably Brave after their last win vs Union are better teams. The biggest winner in the last 3 months is VDA. Their rosters are STACKED, especially BPs 10’group.



Wait, NVA, with their losing record and -17 GD is better than Union, with nearly 4x as many wins as losses, and a +46 GD?

Jeff Cup was 2 months ago. Union won the top flight, VDA didn’t even make the final in the second flight, and NVA didn’t make the final in the 4th.

Didn’t VDA go winless in WAGs this year? It feels like we’re jumping the gun on other teams ascending over Union here.
Anonymous
Post 05/21/2024 12:50     Subject: ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The lackluster results of late are the new norm not a bump in the road. The team knows who is leaving and staying and the disjointed soccer will continue. ML refusal to add quality players means that some of his top players are too comfortable in their roles, not being pushed day in and day out. The ecnl caliber players who may be smaller, or more technical but only playing half the game are the ones on the out. And then there are the ones in his pocket or Unions. IDK, buts its obvious to everyone involved and not involved at this point. Will the Brave girls and FVU infrastructure help? Of course but with all due respect there is 1maybe 2 players there better than anyone on the current Union roster. The additions don't outweigh the subractions and the leeches remain, sucking playing time from better players cause ML can't not answer the phone


What age group? I assume 10s?

That Brave group moving over is very talented, includes 2 players invited to USWNT ID camps, many will clearly start day one, and all of them will challenge for starting positions.

You can say what you want about coaching, coming together as a team, etc. but from a sheer talent perspective, FVU 10s will be as loaded as anyone in the area in the fall. If they don’t win, it’s not because VDA, Arlington or Loudoun has better players.


Union 10 is a good team. Not a great team. Why do you continue to discredit other local teams? Union isn’t even the outright best 2010 team in NOVA or DMV.

Bethesda and VDA are both better teams but don’t necessarily have the players that have grown early.


One thing people fail to discuss here is how much money these Union parents are pouring into their kids outside of the team. Does the Brave group do this as well? If they don’t they better start because this stuff is about to get very complex.

Bethesda, NVA, and arguably Brave after their last win vs Union are better teams. The biggest winner in the last 3 months is VDA. Their rosters are STACKED, especially BPs 10’group.



Complex how? Your statements are confusing. Understand, that private training does not mean anything if there is none natural talent.


"None natural talent?" Really?


Confirmed
Anonymous
Post 05/21/2024 12:39     Subject: ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The lackluster results of late are the new norm not a bump in the road. The team knows who is leaving and staying and the disjointed soccer will continue. ML refusal to add quality players means that some of his top players are too comfortable in their roles, not being pushed day in and day out. The ecnl caliber players who may be smaller, or more technical but only playing half the game are the ones on the out. And then there are the ones in his pocket or Unions. IDK, buts its obvious to everyone involved and not involved at this point. Will the Brave girls and FVU infrastructure help? Of course but with all due respect there is 1maybe 2 players there better than anyone on the current Union roster. The additions don't outweigh the subractions and the leeches remain, sucking playing time from better players cause ML can't not answer the phone


What age group? I assume 10s?

That Brave group moving over is very talented, includes 2 players invited to USWNT ID camps, many will clearly start day one, and all of them will challenge for starting positions.

You can say what you want about coaching, coming together as a team, etc. but from a sheer talent perspective, FVU 10s will be as loaded as anyone in the area in the fall. If they don’t win, it’s not because VDA, Arlington or Loudoun has better players.


Union 10 is a good team. Not a great team. Why do you continue to discredit other local teams? Union isn’t even the outright best 2010 team in NOVA or DMV.

Bethesda and VDA are both better teams but don’t necessarily have the players that have grown early.


One thing people fail to discuss here is how much money these Union parents are pouring into their kids outside of the team. Does the Brave group do this as well? If they don’t they better start because this stuff is about to get very complex.

Bethesda, NVA, and arguably Brave after their last win vs Union are better teams. The biggest winner in the last 3 months is VDA. Their rosters are STACKED, especially BPs 10’group.



Complex how? Your statements are confusing. Understand, that private training does not mean anything if there is none natural talent.


"None natural talent?" Really?


talk about confusing, you confused them so bad, they don't know how to finish a sentence.
Anonymous
Post 05/21/2024 12:37     Subject: ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The lackluster results of late are the new norm not a bump in the road. The team knows who is leaving and staying and the disjointed soccer will continue. ML refusal to add quality players means that some of his top players are too comfortable in their roles, not being pushed day in and day out. The ecnl caliber players who may be smaller, or more technical but only playing half the game are the ones on the out. And then there are the ones in his pocket or Unions. IDK, buts its obvious to everyone involved and not involved at this point. Will the Brave girls and FVU infrastructure help? Of course but with all due respect there is 1maybe 2 players there better than anyone on the current Union roster. The additions don't outweigh the subractions and the leeches remain, sucking playing time from better players cause ML can't not answer the phone


What age group? I assume 10s?

That Brave group moving over is very talented, includes 2 players invited to USWNT ID camps, many will clearly start day one, and all of them will challenge for starting positions.

You can say what you want about coaching, coming together as a team, etc. but from a sheer talent perspective, FVU 10s will be as loaded as anyone in the area in the fall. If they don’t win, it’s not because VDA, Arlington or Loudoun has better players.


Union 10 is a good team. Not a great team. Why do you continue to discredit other local teams? Union isn’t even the outright best 2010 team in NOVA or DMV.

Bethesda and VDA are both better teams but don’t necessarily have the players that have grown early.


One thing people fail to discuss here is how much money these Union parents are pouring into their kids outside of the team. Does the Brave group do this as well? If they don’t they better start because this stuff is about to get very complex.

Bethesda, NVA, and arguably Brave after their last win vs Union are better teams. The biggest winner in the last 3 months is VDA. Their rosters are STACKED, especially BPs 10’group.



Complex how? Your statements are confusing. Understand, that private training does not mean anything if there is none natural talent.


Or maybe it does
Anonymous
Post 05/21/2024 12:37     Subject: ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The lackluster results of late are the new norm not a bump in the road. The team knows who is leaving and staying and the disjointed soccer will continue. ML refusal to add quality players means that some of his top players are too comfortable in their roles, not being pushed day in and day out. The ecnl caliber players who may be smaller, or more technical but only playing half the game are the ones on the out. And then there are the ones in his pocket or Unions. IDK, buts its obvious to everyone involved and not involved at this point. Will the Brave girls and FVU infrastructure help? Of course but with all due respect there is 1maybe 2 players there better than anyone on the current Union roster. The additions don't outweigh the subractions and the leeches remain, sucking playing time from better players cause ML can't not answer the phone


What age group? I assume 10s?

That Brave group moving over is very talented, includes 2 players invited to USWNT ID camps, many will clearly start day one, and all of them will challenge for starting positions.

You can say what you want about coaching, coming together as a team, etc. but from a sheer talent perspective, FVU 10s will be as loaded as anyone in the area in the fall. If they don’t win, it’s not because VDA, Arlington or Loudoun has better players.


Union 10 is a good team. Not a great team. Why do you continue to discredit other local teams? Union isn’t even the outright best 2010 team in NOVA or DMV.

Bethesda and VDA are both better teams but don’t necessarily have the players that have grown early.


One thing people fail to discuss here is how much money these Union parents are pouring into their kids outside of the team. Does the Brave group do this as well? If they don’t they better start because this stuff is about to get very complex.

Bethesda, NVA, and arguably Brave after their last win vs Union are better teams. The biggest winner in the last 3 months is VDA. Their rosters are STACKED, especially BPs 10’group.



Complex how? Your statements are confusing. Understand, that private training does not mean anything if there is none natural talent.


"None natural talent?" Really?