Anonymous
Post 08/27/2020 10:46     Subject: Is Notre Dame screwing up?
Notre Dame doesn't care about anyone as long as their average football team gets to play. Ask the family of Declan Sullivan.
Anonymous
Post 08/27/2020 10:38     Subject: Is Notre Dame screwing up?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They can still chat in small groups, eat meals with friends, etc. sounds better than hanging out at home with Mom and Dad.


You don’t speak for all kids.


And is the chance to chat in small groups, eat with friends (at least until the weather isn't nice anymore), study in your own room, worth 7.5k for a semester? That's a fairly privileged choice for fairly weak returns. But to each his own.


I had to let go of this point. Is it “worth it?” Probably not. But my kid is where he wants to be, earning his credits, and I’m no worse off financially than I would be if things were normal. This is still what we thought college would cost, even if the experience isn’t the same.
Anonymous
Post 08/27/2020 10:19     Subject: Is Notre Dame screwing up?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They can still chat in small groups, eat meals with friends, etc. sounds better than hanging out at home with Mom and Dad.


You don’t speak for all kids.


And is the chance to chat in small groups, eat with friends (at least until the weather isn't nice anymore), study in your own room, worth 7.5k for a semester? That's a fairly privileged choice for fairly weak returns. But to each his own.


Those who know Notre Dame, no explanation is necessary; those who don't, no explanation will suffice. Lou Holtz


Eh, ND is a big tradition in both my immediate and extended family. I personally never understood all the "love" beyond it being the most famous Catholic school and football, but even talking to the diehards in my family, they deemed it not worth it--in their view it would be more depressing to be there under these pale conditions. Better to save the money to live it up when things are closer to normal.


My kid is out there now. He said he hopes to stay. He has no desire to live in our basement, as nice and private as it is. He wants to be with his good college friends, who live all over the country. I hope they make it through. If not, I will pay for an apartment somewhere so he can continue to live with his friends during the distance learning.
Anonymous
Post 08/27/2020 09:46     Subject: Is Notre Dame screwing up?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They can still chat in small groups, eat meals with friends, etc. sounds better than hanging out at home with Mom and Dad.


You don’t speak for all kids.


And is the chance to chat in small groups, eat with friends (at least until the weather isn't nice anymore), study in your own room, worth 7.5k for a semester? That's a fairly privileged choice for fairly weak returns. But to each his own.


Those who know Notre Dame, no explanation is necessary; those who don't, no explanation will suffice. Lou Holtz


Eh, ND is a big tradition in both my immediate and extended family. I personally never understood all the "love" beyond it being the most famous Catholic school and football, but even talking to the diehards in my family, they deemed it not worth it--in their view it would be more depressing to be there under these pale conditions. Better to save the money to live it up when things are closer to normal.
Anonymous
Post 08/26/2020 22:56     Subject: Is Notre Dame screwing up?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They can still chat in small groups, eat meals with friends, etc. sounds better than hanging out at home with Mom and Dad.


You don’t speak for all kids.


And is the chance to chat in small groups, eat with friends (at least until the weather isn't nice anymore), study in your own room, worth 7.5k for a semester? That's a fairly privileged choice for fairly weak returns. But to each his own.


Those who know Notre Dame, no explanation is necessary; those who don't, no explanation will suffice. Lou Holtz
Anonymous
Post 08/26/2020 22:21     Subject: Is Notre Dame screwing up?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They can still chat in small groups, eat meals with friends, etc. sounds better than hanging out at home with Mom and Dad.


You don’t speak for all kids.


And is the chance to chat in small groups, eat with friends (at least until the weather isn't nice anymore), study in your own room, worth 7.5k for a semester? That's a fairly privileged choice for fairly weak returns. But to each his own.
Anonymous
Post 08/26/2020 21:58     Subject: Is Notre Dame screwing up?
Anonymous wrote:They can still chat in small groups, eat meals with friends, etc. sounds better than hanging out at home with Mom and Dad.


You don’t speak for all kids.
Anonymous
Post 08/26/2020 21:56     Subject: Is Notre Dame screwing up?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think the numbers are looking good for ND and hopefully the kids got the message load and clear that they have to suck it up and be mature and delay stupid gratification for a semester if they have any hope of seeing a spring semester happen. This goes for all college kids - No, it's not the free-wheeling lifestyle you imagined, but if you want that then stay home and run wild in your neighborhood. If you are at school, buckle down and make this a semester to rise your gpa, polish a resume, do some online networking, and make a positive push for your future!

But why do they have to be on campus for that? Is the 6 foot away, mask wearing outside your room, no gatherings etc. worth that? Not just for social but also learning quality. Kids can buckle down at home taking the classes remotely and do all those things without R&B cost and without the risks associated with a congregate setting.




They don't have to be on campus. The ones there have chosen to be. They could have stayed home but they have elected the option to be there knowing rules are in place and their families have accepted the cost of that. I have 2 in college. We made a very conscious, well-researched decision for each kid based on what the schools were planning, what classes they were taking, knowing the risks, and accepting the consequences. Both argued that it was going to be personally worth it even with strict rules. Two weeks in they are happy with their decisions. Granted some people had the choice taken away if the school went fully remote, but I suppose the option was still on the table to transfer if being a resident meant that much.
Anonymous
Post 08/26/2020 19:41     Subject: Is Notre Dame screwing up?
They can still chat in small groups, eat meals with friends, etc. sounds better than hanging out at home with Mom and Dad.
Anonymous
Post 08/26/2020 19:07     Subject: Is Notre Dame screwing up?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think the numbers are looking good for ND and hopefully the kids got the message load and clear that they have to suck it up and be mature and delay stupid gratification for a semester if they have any hope of seeing a spring semester happen. This goes for all college kids - No, it's not the free-wheeling lifestyle you imagined, but if you want that then stay home and run wild in your neighborhood. If you are at school, buckle down and make this a semester to rise your gpa, polish a resume, do some online networking, and make a positive push for your future!

But why do they have to be on campus for that? Is the 6 foot away, mask wearing outside your room, no gatherings etc. worth that? Not just for social but also learning quality. Kids can buckle down at home taking the classes remotely and do all those things without R&B cost and without the risks associated with a congregate setting.




Because they are 18 and they want to be out in the world with some semblance of independence. I'm sure many of these kids are learning skills about how to cope in difficult times that will serve them well in the future.
Anonymous
Post 08/26/2020 17:48     Subject: Is Notre Dame screwing up?
Anonymous wrote:I think the numbers are looking good for ND and hopefully the kids got the message load and clear that they have to suck it up and be mature and delay stupid gratification for a semester if they have any hope of seeing a spring semester happen. This goes for all college kids - No, it's not the free-wheeling lifestyle you imagined, but if you want that then stay home and run wild in your neighborhood. If you are at school, buckle down and make this a semester to rise your gpa, polish a resume, do some online networking, and make a positive push for your future!

But why do they have to be on campus for that? Is the 6 foot away, mask wearing outside your room, no gatherings etc. worth that? Not just for social but also learning quality. Kids can buckle down at home taking the classes remotely and do all those things without R&B cost and without the risks associated with a congregate setting.


Anonymous
Post 08/26/2020 17:46     Subject: Re:Is Notre Dame screwing up?
Yes the numbers are looking better every day. Only 13 cases today down from in the 30s the last few days. A lot more tests conducted. They gave us a heads up that the cases might go up slightly due to retesting people on day for in quarantine (where positivity tends to be higher). We will see. That was supposed to happen today, but the numbers are down. Fingers crossed these kids can finish out the semester in person and come home right before Thanksgiving.
Anonymous
Post 08/26/2020 17:30     Subject: Is Notre Dame screwing up?
I think the numbers are looking good for ND and hopefully the kids got the message load and clear that they have to suck it up and be mature and delay stupid gratification for a semester if they have any hope of seeing a spring semester happen. This goes for all college kids - No, it's not the free-wheeling lifestyle you imagined, but if you want that then stay home and run wild in your neighborhood. If you are at school, buckle down and make this a semester to rise your gpa, polish a resume, do some online networking, and make a positive push for your future!

But if you are there to hang with your frat boys or run around with your sorority sisters - well then, don't cry when it's time to go home. These schools are doing their damnedest to provide a residential experience with very little to go on and all people can do is belly-ache. If you don't want to be a part of what a school offers, unenroll. Very simple.
Anonymous
Post 08/26/2020 15:55     Subject: Is Notre Dame screwing up?
Well one thing we have learned is that nobody can possibly know for certain what will happen, but lots of us are hoping for a full semester on campus for the ND students.
Anonymous
Post 08/26/2020 14:24     Subject: Is Notre Dame screwing up?
Notre Dame is not going to close or send students home. They've been on campus for weeks already. No kids are in the hospital, nobody has died. You people need to get a life.