Anonymous
06/09/2020 23:01
Subject: Allegedly there are several options for the fall none of which include being back full time?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:NoVa opening. MoCo has followed every time. School is happening , so decide what you’re comfortable with and get in board.
This is what NoVa is doing, which is not back to normal (especially in crowded schools):
"Phase three returns to in-person instruction for all students but with social distancing measures. This could require staggered schedules, blended in-person and virtual learning, and other strategies. Schools will be required to maintain six feet of distance between classroom desks and work stations as well as on school buses. Staggered use of communal spaces such as cafeterias will be required, which could result in serving students in classrooms. There will also be restrictions on mixing groups of students, cleaning and disinfecting measures, and remote learning and telework options for high-risk students and staff.
Staff will be required to wear face coverings when physical distancing cannot be maintained. Face coverings are encouraged for students, particularly among older students and when physical distancing cannot be maintained.
Beyond phase three will be the "new normal" based on future guidance."
I posted phase 3 because I assumed that is where NoVa will be in late August. However, my point is that no schools in the metro area will open under normal operating conditions. People posting that schools will open and operate like the pre-covid days are just as crazy as the people posting that schools should stay closed in continue DL until there is a vaccine.
Anonymous
06/09/2020 22:25
Subject: Allegedly there are several options for the fall none of which include being back full time?
Anonymous wrote:NoVa opening. MoCo has followed every time. School is happening , so decide what you’re comfortable with and get in board.
This is a gross misstatement. Nova is opening with extreme social distancing measures and staggered schedules which have yet to be determined. Don’t be jealous of us yet.
Anonymous
06/09/2020 21:47
Subject: Allegedly there are several options for the fall none of which include being back full time?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:All this arguing and bottom line none of us are the decision makers here. They will open or they won’t. Or something in between. And we’ll deal. Is there another option?
Sure -- pull your kids and homeschool them. Or move to VA or some place that is open.
Of course. [b]But how does arguing for pages and pages really change anything.[/b] People will have to deal or homeschool or move. However I’d be willing to bet moving isn’t going to make much difference unless it’s a very rural place. I’d also be willing to bet that the majority won’t move or homeschool.
This forum isn't for change - if I want to exert change I'll write my state officials or the BOE. It's a forum for exchanging ideas and finding like minds - or talking about issues with people you disagree with. That's what the pages and pages are about.
Anonymous
06/09/2020 21:22
Subject: Allegedly there are several options for the fall none of which include being back full time?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:NoVa opening. MoCo has followed every time. School is happening , so decide what you’re comfortable with and get in board.
This is what NoVa is doing, which is not back to normal (especially in crowded schools):
"Phase three returns to in-person instruction for all students but with social distancing measures. This could require staggered schedules, blended in-person and virtual learning, and other strategies. Schools will be required to maintain six feet of distance between classroom desks and work stations as well as on school buses. Staggered use of communal spaces such as cafeterias will be required, which could result in serving students in classrooms. There will also be restrictions on mixing groups of students, cleaning and disinfecting measures, and remote learning and telework options for high-risk students and staff.
Staff will be required to wear face coverings when physical distancing cannot be maintained. Face coverings are encouraged for students, particularly among older students and when physical distancing cannot be maintained.
Beyond phase three will be the "new normal" based on future guidance."
It’s also important what comes BEFORE that statement:
All PreK-12 schools in Virginia will be required to deliver new instruction to students for the 2020-2021 academic year, regardless of the operational status of school buildings, but will have discretion over how they do it.
The phased approach already offers some instructional opportunities during the summer as Phase 1 continues for a few more days in Richmond and Northern Virginia and as Phase 2 continues statewide.
Here are the basics of the plan announced on Tuesday:
Phase 1: Allows for in-person education to be provided for special education programs and allows for in-person childcare for children of working families
Phase 2: Allows for in-person instruction for pre-K through 3rd grade students, ESL programs and students with disabilities; also allows summer camps in school settings to operate in-person
Phase 3: Allows for in-person instruction for all students, but with strict social distancing measures in place
Anonymous
06/09/2020 21:19
Subject: Allegedly there are several options for the fall none of which include being back full time?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:All this arguing and bottom line none of us are the decision makers here. They will open or they won’t. Or something in between. And we’ll deal. Is there another option?
Sure -- pull your kids and homeschool them. Or move to VA or some place that is open.
Of course. But how does arguing for pages and pages really change anything. People will have to deal or homeschool or move. However I’d be willing to bet moving isn’t going to make much difference unless it’s a very rural place. I’d also be willing to bet that the majority won’t move or homeschool.
Anonymous
06/09/2020 21:14
Subject: Allegedly there are several options for the fall none of which include being back full time?
I'm hearing from companies that they are staying remote until the end of the year now.
Anonymous
06/09/2020 21:12
Subject: Allegedly there are several options for the fall none of which include being back full time?
Anonymous wrote:All this arguing and bottom line none of us are the decision makers here. They will open or they won’t. Or something in between. And we’ll deal. Is there another option?
Sure -- pull your kids and homeschool them. Or move to VA or some place that is open.
Anonymous
06/09/2020 21:09
Subject: Allegedly there are several options for the fall none of which include being back full time?
Anonymous wrote:Even Fauci said today it’s time to open schools.
I recall him saying not to base decisions on school opening on the availability of a vaccine. The schools will have had 6 months to prepare. They damn well better open.
Anonymous
06/09/2020 20:49
Subject: Allegedly there are several options for the fall none of which include being back full time?
All this arguing and bottom line none of us are the decision makers here. They will open or they won’t. Or something in between. And we’ll deal. Is there another option?
Anonymous
06/09/2020 19:36
Subject: Allegedly there are several options for the fall none of which include being back full time?
Anonymous wrote:NoVa opening. MoCo has followed every time. School is happening , so decide what you’re comfortable with and get in board.
This is what NoVa is doing, which is not back to normal (especially in crowded schools):
"Phase three returns to in-person instruction for all students but with social distancing measures. This could require staggered schedules, blended in-person and virtual learning, and other strategies. Schools will be required to maintain six feet of distance between classroom desks and work stations as well as on school buses. Staggered use of communal spaces such as cafeterias will be required, which could result in serving students in classrooms. There will also be restrictions on mixing groups of students, cleaning and disinfecting measures, and remote learning and telework options for high-risk students and staff.
Staff will be required to wear face coverings when physical distancing cannot be maintained. Face coverings are encouraged for students, particularly among older students and when physical distancing cannot be maintained.
Beyond phase three will be the "new normal" based on future guidance."
Anonymous
06/09/2020 18:45
Subject: Re:Allegedly there are several options for the fall none of which include being back full time?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
You can’t leave kids home alone for indefinite periods until 8 legally, so yes, low income people with little kids who count on daycare and school ARE suffering. But more importantly, their kids, who arguably benefit from school and count on school enrichment in the way UMC kids don’t have to, suffer.
Why is this okay with people? And why are we closing schools to protect a small fraction of people while the rest of population - an overwhelming number - are losing jobs, education, and suffering from other illnesses - some serious ailments - that are actually INCREASING because of the covid19 hysteria.
When nigh on 110,000 Americans have died from covid19 in just a few months, it's actually kind of despicable to refer to it as "covid19 hysteria".
Because the are 21 million (yes, million) unemployed people in the US right now.
That makes it "hysteria", how?
Covid is serious and it can be deadly for a subset of those who contract it. 100,000 people dead is a big deal. But so is the health impacts of rampant unemployment and poverty - which will grow. So are the health issues that come with increased poverty and the limitations that are taking place across the healthcare system to defer to covid. So are the societal impacts of no school. Schools need to reopen.
People have no sense of scale with risk. The health risk from everyone staying home and gaining ten pounds probably dwarfs COVID in terms of numbers.
Some of us understand how bad it is. Some of us have relatives or even ourselves who are caring for COVID patients. My sibling is a doctor in NY. Several of their co-workers were or are on vents. Some survived some didn't. Many others have gotten really sick and taking months to recover if at all. You have no concept of how bad this is.
And you’re too close to accurately weigh risk. Working in an ER is risky. Going to school with precautions probably is better than the alternative for almost everyone.
To respond to someone else - the disease hasn’t changed. But our understanding of it has, thanks to the science you supposedly use to make your decisions.
Anonymous
06/09/2020 18:39
Subject: Allegedly there are several options for the fall none of which include being back full time?
NoVa opening. MoCo has followed every time. School is happening , so decide what you’re comfortable with and get in board.
Anonymous
06/09/2020 15:32
Subject: Re:Allegedly there are several options for the fall none of which include being back full time?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
You can’t leave kids home alone for indefinite periods until 8 legally, so yes, low income people with little kids who count on daycare and school ARE suffering. But more importantly, their kids, who arguably benefit from school and count on school enrichment in the way UMC kids don’t have to, suffer.
Why is this okay with people? And why are we closing schools to protect a small fraction of people while the rest of population - an overwhelming number - are losing jobs, education, and suffering from other illnesses - some serious ailments - that are actually INCREASING because of the covid19 hysteria.
When nigh on 110,000 Americans have died from covid19 in just a few months, it's actually kind of despicable to refer to it as "covid19 hysteria".
Because the are 21 million (yes, million) unemployed people in the US right now.
That makes it "hysteria", how?
Covid is serious and it can be deadly for a subset of those who contract it. 100,000 people dead is a big deal. But so is the health impacts of rampant unemployment and poverty - which will grow. So are the health issues that come with increased poverty and the limitations that are taking place across the healthcare system to defer to covid. So are the societal impacts of no school. Schools need to reopen.
People have no sense of scale with risk. The health risk from everyone staying home and gaining ten pounds probably dwarfs COVID in terms of numbers.
Why do they have to gain 10 pounds because they are home?
I've lost a little weight. I think I'm actually more active because I prioritize getting out for a walk daily. Didn't use to do that before being home so much.
Anonymous
06/09/2020 15:24
Subject: Re:Allegedly there are several options for the fall none of which include being back full time?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
You can’t leave kids home alone for indefinite periods until 8 legally, so yes, low income people with little kids who count on daycare and school ARE suffering. But more importantly, their kids, who arguably benefit from school and count on school enrichment in the way UMC kids don’t have to, suffer.
Why is this okay with people? And why are we closing schools to protect a small fraction of people while the rest of population - an overwhelming number - are losing jobs, education, and suffering from other illnesses - some serious ailments - that are actually INCREASING because of the covid19 hysteria.
When nigh on 110,000 Americans have died from covid19 in just a few months, it's actually kind of despicable to refer to it as "covid19 hysteria".
Because the are 21 million (yes, million) unemployed people in the US right now.
That makes it "hysteria", how?
Covid is serious and it can be deadly for a subset of those who contract it. 100,000 people dead is a big deal. But so is the health impacts of rampant unemployment and poverty - which will grow. So are the health issues that come with increased poverty and the limitations that are taking place across the healthcare system to defer to covid. So are the societal impacts of no school. Schools need to reopen.
People have no sense of scale with risk. The health risk from everyone staying home and gaining ten pounds probably dwarfs COVID in terms of numbers.
Why do they have to gain 10 pounds because they are home?
Anonymous
06/09/2020 15:20
Subject: Re:Allegedly there are several options for the fall none of which include being back full time?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
You can’t leave kids home alone for indefinite periods until 8 legally, so yes, low income people with little kids who count on daycare and school ARE suffering. But more importantly, their kids, who arguably benefit from school and count on school enrichment in the way UMC kids don’t have to, suffer.
Why is this okay with people? And why are we closing schools to protect a small fraction of people while the rest of population - an overwhelming number - are losing jobs, education, and suffering from other illnesses - some serious ailments - that are actually INCREASING because of the covid19 hysteria.
When nigh on 110,000 Americans have died from covid19 in just a few months, it's actually kind of despicable to refer to it as "covid19 hysteria".
Because the are 21 million (yes, million) unemployed people in the US right now.
That makes it "hysteria", how?
Covid is serious and it can be deadly for a subset of those who contract it. 100,000 people dead is a big deal. But so is the health impacts of rampant unemployment and poverty - which will grow. So are the health issues that come with increased poverty and the limitations that are taking place across the healthcare system to defer to covid. So are the societal impacts of no school. Schools need to reopen.
People have no sense of scale with risk. The health risk from everyone staying home and gaining ten pounds probably dwarfs COVID in terms of numbers.
Some of us understand how bad it is. Some of us have relatives or even ourselves who are caring for COVID patients. My sibling is a doctor in NY. Several of their co-workers were or are on vents. Some survived some didn't. Many others have gotten really sick and taking months to recover if at all. You have no concept of how bad this is.