Anonymous wrote:PP here. One more thing, I just read the letter that came with the scores. It says the they took the NNAT2 which is the NNAT Second Edition. It says that it is a timed test, and students are provided 30 minutes to complete 48 test items. For the test, students must examine relationships among geometric shapes to determine which response are correct on the basis of the information inherent to each item.

It says scores range from 50 to 160 with 100 being the mean. I don't know if first graders will be taking the same test or not.


HTH

I heard neither test was timed.

Anonymous wrote:To be in the pool, a child has to score above the threshold on the NNAT OR on any one subpart of the CoGAT. My DD had a similar score profile to what 21:10 posted. She was in the pool based on her 150 NNAT, but she scored 122-124 on all parts of the CoGAT. She got in (no appeal) and is now a 4th grader in the center and doing very well.

Really? because someone responded before that a 130 needed to be achieved on both tests.

I haven't seen anything on the FCPS website that says what's in the pool and what isn't.

PP here. One more thing, I just read the letter that came with the scores. It says the they took the NNAT2 which is the NNAT Second Edition. It says that it is a timed test, and students are provided 30 minutes to complete 48 test items. For the test, students must examine relationships among geometric shapes to determine which response are correct on the basis of the information inherent to each item.

It says scores range from 50 to 160 with 100 being the mean. I don't know if first graders will be taking the same test or not.


HTH

It may be worthwhile, if you are new to the process, to go back and skim the thread from the beginning. I know it's long, but I was the OP and now I see that the same questions are being asked all over again. Nothing wrong with asking, but there's already a lot of good info here if you go back and read it.

Poster here with the kid with the 124 NNAT score. No, the average score does not have to be 130. At least one subset of the CoGAt or the score on the NNAT has to be 130 (or whatever the threshold score is for that year - in the prior year it was 132, I believe) to be IN THE POOL.

My child did do lousy on one subset of the CoGat and got a perfect score (146) on another subset. Apparently, that was enough to get him into the AAP program. Again, I did not see his GBRS scores from the school or what the teachers wrote about him. That may have helped as well.

To the poster who asked about the number of questions, I am looking at the report for the NNAT2 Level C now. It says his raw score was 41 out of a number possible of 48. That put him in the 93rd percentile rank. According to their graph, that score falls in the "superior" category with "very superior" being 130 and above.

Anonymous wrote:

Huh?

So your average score doesn't need to be over 130?

Your son was below 130 on average for both tests, and had a 146 on just one of the 3 subsets, and was automatic? If he had 146 on one subset, and his CogAT at 129, that means for his other two subsets, at least one was way below 129.

You said he got a 124 on the NNAT where the threshold was 130. No?

To be in the pool, a child has to score above the threshold on the NNAT OR on any one subpart of the CoGAT. My DD had a similar score profile to what 21:10 posted. She was in the pool based on her 150 NNAT, but she scored 122-124 on all parts of the CoGAT. She got in (no appeal) and is now a 4th grader in the center and doing very well.

Anonymous wrote:He WAS in the pool. They go by any subset score for the CoGat (there are 3 subsets to the CoGat) or the NNat score being above their threshold. Last year that score was 130, so his 146 score got him into the pool. He got in during the initial round (not on appeal). I don't know what his GBRS scores were from his school. We submitted a few referrals from music teachers and such as well as some of his work.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes, he got in. His CoGat was 129 overall with one section being a 146.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:To the poster who asked about how many questions one needs to answer correctly to get a 130, I will give you my child's example on the NNAT.

He took the NNAT2 last year (in 2nd grade). There were 48 possible. He got 41 correct and got a 124. Hope that helps.

Did your son get in? What was his CogAT score?

So based on your son's scores, he wasn't automatically in the pool.

With that, how did you initiate the process to let the school know that you want to proceed with the process anyway to see if he's admitted?

Huh?

So your average score doesn't need to be over 130?

Your son was below 130 on average for both tests, and had a 146 on just one of the 3 subsets, and was automatic? If he had 146 on one subset, and his CogAT at 129, that means for his other two subsets, at least one was way below 129.

You said he got a 124 on the NNAT where the threshold was 130. No?

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[Post New]09/29/2010 20:37

thanks for the score break down.- exactly the information I was looking for..did your child have 48 questions? I thought this test has only 38 questions ( unless second graders get more questions than first graders)

thanks..

What you can do is submit a parental referral. There is info on the cps website about how to do it...

He WAS in the pool. They go by any subset score for the CoGat (there are 3 subsets to the CoGat) or the NNat score being above their threshold. Last year that score was 130, so his 146 score got him into the pool. He got in during the initial round (not on appeal). I don't know what his GBRS scores were from his school. We submitted a few referrals from music teachers and such as well as some of his work.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes, he got in. His CoGat was 129 overall with one section being a 146.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:To the poster who asked about how many questions one needs to answer correctly to get a 130, I will give you my child's example on the NNAT.

He took the NNAT2 last year (in 2nd grade). There were 48 possible. He got 41 correct and got a 124. Hope that helps.

Did your son get in? What was his CogAT score?

So based on your son's scores, he wasn't automatically in the pool.

With that, how did you initiate the process to let the school know that you want to proceed with the process anyway to see if he's admitted?

Anonymous wrote:Yes, he got in. His CoGat was 129 overall with one section being a 146.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:To the poster who asked about how many questions one needs to answer correctly to get a 130, I will give you my child's example on the NNAT.

He took the NNAT2 last year (in 2nd grade). There were 48 possible. He got 41 correct and got a 124. Hope that helps.

Did your son get in? What was his CogAT score?

So based on your son's scores, he wasn't automatically in the pool.

With that, how did you initiate the process to let the school know that you want to proceed with the process anyway to see if he's admitted?

Yes, he got in. His CoGat was 129 overall with one section being a 146.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:To the poster who asked about how many questions one needs to answer correctly to get a 130, I will give you my child's example on the NNAT.

He took the NNAT2 last year (in 2nd grade). There were 48 possible. He got 41 correct and got a 124. Hope that helps.

Did your son get in? What was his CogAT score?

Anonymous wrote:09:36: I would not say how determined the parent is, but rather how strong of a case the parent makes....with
Scores of 100, it probably will not matter, and with scores of 140 across the boar (not just one score), the child is in. But in between, the package the parent puts together matters. 120 across the board with a good package and good comments from the school is probably sufficient

That's interesting.

I heard a parent telling the AART that her kid got a 128 on the NNAT. For whatever reason, they put the kid back in 2nd grade, and I suppose this kid will be taking the same NNAT test for 2nd graders again.

Anonymous wrote:To the poster who asked about how many questions one needs to answer correctly to get a 130, I will give you my child's example on the NNAT.

He took the NNAT2 last year (in 2nd grade). There were 48 possible. He got 41 correct and got a 124. Hope that helps.

Did your son get in? What was his CogAT score?

To the poster who asked about how many questions one needs to answer correctly to get a 130, I will give you my child's example on the NNAT.

He took the NNAT2 last year (in 2nd grade). There were 48 possible. He got 41 correct and got a 124. Hope that helps.