Anonymous
06/19/2019 13:58
Subject: Re:Costco shooter was a cop... and all 3 victims were unarmed
Anonymous wrote:Is the video public? Or are these just reports from the attorneys?
This LA Times piece sums up the opposing views:
“Two wildly different stories emerge of deadly encounter in food line”
https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-costco-shooting-explainer-narrative-20190619-story.html
Anonymous
06/19/2019 13:46
Subject: Re:Costco shooter was a cop... and all 3 victims were unarmed
Is the video public? Or are these just reports from the attorneys?
Anonymous
06/19/2019 13:31
Subject: Costco shooter was a cop... and all 3 victims were unarmed
The video shows that no one was attacking the shooter when he opened fire. In fact, there was a gap in time between when the shooter stated he was a police officer and the father had stepped in front of his son.
Anonymous
06/19/2019 13:23
Subject: Costco shooter was a cop... and all 3 victims were unarmed
That’s so annoying that the police and the shooter’s attorney are claiming he was knocked unconscious when the video shows he was not. He was able to declare he was a police officer right before he started shooting.
Anonymous
06/19/2019 13:23
Subject: Costco shooter was a cop... and all 3 victims were unarmed
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:“Galipo said the officer’s life was not threatened and, instead, the officer acted out of anger because someone had pushed him“ this seems so much more plausible with the outcome at hand.
Galipo is an attorney for the family.
And? There are also quotes upthread from the officer’s attorney.
That’s fine, but the quotes need to be identified as such. The above post makes it sound like possibly investigators have arrived at that conclusion. They have not.
Anonymous
06/19/2019 12:51
Subject: Costco shooter was a cop... and all 3 victims were unarmed
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:“Galipo said the officer’s life was not threatened and, instead, the officer acted out of anger because someone had pushed him“ this seems so much more plausible with the outcome at hand.
Galipo is an attorney for the family.
And? There are also quotes upthread from the officer’s attorney.
Anonymous
06/19/2019 11:57
Subject: Re:Costco shooter was a cop... and all 3 victims were unarmed
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The Frenches’ attorney has seen the video, and apparently the real story is a little different than the defense attorney said:
https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-costco-dispute-lapd-shooting-corona-20190618-story.html
According to this account, the son did push the officer (although no indication he fell or lost consciousness). Cop identified himself as an officer, dad stepped stepped in between them to try to explain that his son has a disability and die-escalate the situation, and then the cop started shooting.
So, now we have two different accounts from each side...still need to wait and see.
A witness has corroborated that the cop hit the ground hard.
You can hit the ground hard and not loss consciousness.
I find the Frenchs’ version credible so far.
The samples at Costco bring out the worst in people, so much pushing or cutting in line. I can see multiple possibilities.
A) the Frenchs are waiting in line patiently. It is unclear who is next to receive a sample and the son jostles the cop in his excitement to get a sample.
B) the Frenchs are waiting, but the son is impatient due to his disability and pushes the cop out of the way, not realizing his strength or that the person he pushed might be off balance due to holding a child.
C) the Frenchs don’t even want food samples, they are just blocked in the waiting crowd. The son is distressed by being blocked in and tries to exit, knocking the cop down.
D) the cop’s child is hungry and the cop impatiently steps in front of the son who sees this as rude and pushes the cop.
I wish Costco would stop the samples. People always shove or cut in line. The crowds block the movement of others who don’t even want samples. In contrast, I’ve eaten samples at WF and many European groceries stores without this shoving. It’s not a class thing. I’m barely middle class and a Costco membership isn’t cheap. I think it’s the way being in a huge crowded space makes the reptile part of our brains feel.
What happened to the eyewitnesses who said a woman rather than the cop was holding the map when the push happened?
Ah yes.
It’s not guns.
It’s not mental illness.
It’s costco samples.
That’s the problem.
Anonymous
06/19/2019 11:55
Subject: Costco shooter was a cop... and all 3 victims were unarmed
Anonymous wrote:“Galipo said the officer’s life was not threatened and, instead, the officer acted out of anger because someone had pushed him“ this seems so much more plausible with the outcome at hand.
Galipo is an attorney for the family.
Anonymous
06/19/2019 11:53
Subject: Re:Costco shooter was a cop... and all 3 victims were unarmed
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The Frenches’ attorney has seen the video, and apparently the real story is a little different than the defense attorney said:
https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-costco-dispute-lapd-shooting-corona-20190618-story.html
According to this account, the son did push the officer (although no indication he fell or lost consciousness). Cop identified himself as an officer, dad stepped stepped in between them to try to explain that his son has a disability and die-escalate the situation, and then the cop started shooting.
So, now we have two different accounts from each side...still need to wait and see.
A witness has corroborated that the cop hit the ground hard.
You can hit the ground hard and not loss consciousness.
I find the Frenchs’ version credible so far.
The samples at Costco bring out the worst in people, so much pushing or cutting in line. I can see multiple possibilities.
A) the Frenchs are waiting in line patiently. It is unclear who is next to receive a sample and the son jostles the cop in his excitement to get a sample.
B) the Frenchs are waiting, but the son is impatient due to his disability and pushes the cop out of the way, not realizing his strength or that the person he pushed might be off balance due to holding a child.
C) the Frenchs don’t even want food samples, they are just blocked in the waiting crowd. The son is distressed by being blocked in and tries to exit, knocking the cop down.
D) the cop’s child is hungry and the cop impatiently steps in front of the son who sees this as rude and pushes the cop.
I wish Costco would stop the samples. People always shove or cut in line. The crowds block the movement of others who don’t even want samples. In contrast, I’ve eaten samples at WF and many European groceries stores without this shoving. It’s not a class thing. I’m barely middle class and a Costco membership isn’t cheap. I think it’s the way being in a huge crowded space makes the reptile part of our brains feel.
What happened to the eyewitnesses who said a woman rather than the cop was holding the map when the push happened?
Anonymous
06/19/2019 11:28
Subject: Costco shooter was a cop... and all 3 victims were unarmed
“Galipo said the officer’s life was not threatened and, instead, the officer acted out of anger because someone had pushed him“ this seems so much more plausible with the outcome at hand.
Anonymous
06/19/2019 11:20
Subject: Costco shooter was a cop... and all 3 victims were unarmed
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I’m glad the shooter’s identity and the video will inevitably come out. Costco has an intense interest at odds with the typical LEO trash mindset of hiding and exonerating inexcusable escalation. The fail-cop killed one nonverbal person and put his parents in the ICU. Why can some of you smears not empathize with the parents in the hospital? It’s a parenting board, twits.
The officer is a parent too.
A parent who is probably home with his child, instead of a parent who is in the ICU with his child in the morgue.
A parent who will probably get an all-expenses paid vacation while the LAPD "investigates".
From the LA Times: “Ultimately, the five-person Los Angeles Police Commission will decide whether the officer was justified in the shooting and whether he followed department rules before pulling the trigger. That investigation is separate from the criminal one.”
Anonymous
06/19/2019 08:59
Subject: Re:Costco shooter was a cop... and all 3 victims were unarmed
A badge and a gun bring out the cold blooded killer in some people. I'm betting he fantasized about shooting some people and getting away with it. Then he acted out his fantasy.
Oh, for heaven's sake. Project much?
Anonymous
06/19/2019 08:23
Subject: Re:Costco shooter was a cop... and all 3 victims were unarmed
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The Frenches’ attorney has seen the video, and apparently the real story is a little different than the defense attorney said:
https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-costco-dispute-lapd-shooting-corona-20190618-story.html
According to this account, the son did push the officer (although no indication he fell or lost consciousness). Cop identified himself as an officer, dad stepped stepped in between them to try to explain that his son has a disability and die-escalate the situation, and then the cop started shooting.
So, now we have two different accounts from each side...still need to wait and see.
A witness has corroborated that the cop hit the ground hard.
What a terrible story. A dad stepping into the line of fire to protect his disabled son, explaining to the cop that his son was nonverbal disabled and getting shot along with his wife.
Anonymous
06/19/2019 08:18
Subject: Re:Costco shooter was a cop... and all 3 victims were unarmed
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The Frenches’ attorney has seen the video, and apparently the real story is a little different than the defense attorney said:
https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-costco-dispute-lapd-shooting-corona-20190618-story.html
According to this account, the son did push the officer (although no indication he fell or lost consciousness). Cop identified himself as an officer, dad stepped stepped in between them to try to explain that his son has a disability and die-escalate the situation, and then the cop started shooting.
So, now we have two different accounts from each side...still need to wait and see.
A witness has corroborated that the cop hit the ground hard.
Anonymous
06/19/2019 08:01
Subject: Costco shooter was a cop... and all 3 victims were unarmed
A badge and a gun bring out the cold blooded killer in some people. I'm betting he fantasized about shooting some people and getting away with it. Then he acted out his fantasy.