Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Book deal lady seems like a first class beeyatch but I see nothing wrong with this - a uniformed metro employee breaking the law (or what we all thought the law was until yesterday.) This deserves to get called out and I do t see why race matters to anyone except the wapo reporter and all the faux woke people here.
This isn't the metro worker being rude (if that were a crime ain't enough jails in the world). This was small but criminal behavior by someone who KNOWS better.
Because book lady was seen as punching down. It's a bad look for someone who styles herself as an ally to the underrepresented.
I don't understand why it's so hard for people to understand this.
Can we stop with this punching down nonsense.
Jobs at metro are great jobs. Coveted jobs.
NEWSFLASH DUM DUMS: the metro workers are often making as much or more than the white collar riders.
No, we can't stop with this punching down nonsense. No one is saying that this woman was homeless. But some anonymous Metro employee wearing a uniform while eating her lunch when she shouldn't be is not as powerful as an author whose book is about to be published. The author is in a different position. Do you really not understand that?
Well, since her book deal was cancelled, it sounds like her position was quite precarious.
I give up.
You should because you're not explaining yourself well. The Metro worker was wearing a uniform and breaking a Metro rule. Yet the person pointing that out is the one facing consequences. Metro should just dump the rule about eating/drinking if their own employees aren't going to follow it.
+1 People represent their employers when they're on duty.
+2.
On duty and in UNIFORM
The author represented the publisher, too. And the publisher doesn't find this episode to comport with its values. Book authors aren't unionized.
Oh please, you are either truly dumb or being obtuse on purpose.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Book deal lady seems like a first class beeyatch but I see nothing wrong with this - a uniformed metro employee breaking the law (or what we all thought the law was until yesterday.) This deserves to get called out and I do t see why race matters to anyone except the wapo reporter and all the faux woke people here.
This isn't the metro worker being rude (if that were a crime ain't enough jails in the world). This was small but criminal behavior by someone who KNOWS better.
Because book lady was seen as punching down. It's a bad look for someone who styles herself as an ally to the underrepresented.
I don't understand why it's so hard for people to understand this.
Can we stop with this punching down nonsense.
Jobs at metro are great jobs. Coveted jobs.
NEWSFLASH DUM DUMS: the metro workers are often making as much or more than the white collar riders.
No, we can't stop with this punching down nonsense. No one is saying that this woman was homeless. But some anonymous Metro employee wearing a uniform while eating her lunch when she shouldn't be is not as powerful as an author whose book is about to be published. The author is in a different position. Do you really not understand that?
Well, since her book deal was cancelled, it sounds like her position was quite precarious.
I give up.
You should because you're not explaining yourself well. The Metro worker was wearing a uniform and breaking a Metro rule. Yet the person pointing that out is the one facing consequences. Metro should just dump the rule about eating/drinking if their own employees aren't going to follow it.
+1 People represent their employers when they're on duty.
+2.
On duty and in UNIFORM
The author represented the publisher, too. And the publisher doesn't find this episode to comport with its values. Book authors aren't unionized.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Book deal lady seems like a first class beeyatch but I see nothing wrong with this - a uniformed metro employee breaking the law (or what we all thought the law was until yesterday.) This deserves to get called out and I do t see why race matters to anyone except the wapo reporter and all the faux woke people here.
This isn't the metro worker being rude (if that were a crime ain't enough jails in the world). This was small but criminal behavior by someone who KNOWS better.
Because book lady was seen as punching down. It's a bad look for someone who styles herself as an ally to the underrepresented.
I don't understand why it's so hard for people to understand this.
Can we stop with this punching down nonsense.
Jobs at metro are great jobs. Coveted jobs.
NEWSFLASH DUM DUMS: the metro workers are often making as much or more than the white collar riders.
No, we can't stop with this punching down nonsense. No one is saying that this woman was homeless. But some anonymous Metro employee wearing a uniform while eating her lunch when she shouldn't be is not as powerful as an author whose book is about to be published. The author is in a different position. Do you really not understand that?
Well, since her book deal was cancelled, it sounds like her position was quite precarious.
I give up.
You should because you're not explaining yourself well. The Metro worker was wearing a uniform and breaking a Metro rule. Yet the person pointing that out is the one facing consequences. Metro should just dump the rule about eating/drinking if their own employees aren't going to follow it.
+1 People represent their employers when they're on duty.
+2.
On duty and in UNIFORM
The author represented the publisher, too. And the publisher doesn't find this episode to comport with its values. Book authors aren't unionized.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Book deal lady seems like a first class beeyatch but I see nothing wrong with this - a uniformed metro employee breaking the law (or what we all thought the law was until yesterday.) This deserves to get called out and I do t see why race matters to anyone except the wapo reporter and all the faux woke people here.
This isn't the metro worker being rude (if that were a crime ain't enough jails in the world). This was small but criminal behavior by someone who KNOWS better.
Because book lady was seen as punching down. It's a bad look for someone who styles herself as an ally to the underrepresented.
I don't understand why it's so hard for people to understand this.
Can we stop with this punching down nonsense.
Jobs at metro are great jobs. Coveted jobs.
NEWSFLASH DUM DUMS: the metro workers are often making as much or more than the white collar riders.
No, we can't stop with this punching down nonsense. No one is saying that this woman was homeless. But some anonymous Metro employee wearing a uniform while eating her lunch when she shouldn't be is not as powerful as an author whose book is about to be published. The author is in a different position. Do you really not understand that?
Well, since her book deal was cancelled, it sounds like her position was quite precarious.
I give up.
You should because you're not explaining yourself well. The Metro worker was wearing a uniform and breaking a Metro rule. Yet the person pointing that out is the one facing consequences. Metro should just dump the rule about eating/drinking if their own employees aren't going to follow it.
+1 People represent their employers when they're on duty.
+2.
On duty and in UNIFORM
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I actually know this woman, she's not a racist, conflating her stupid tweet with racism is ridiculous. Calling out people is what she does. Why she did it this time, in this fashion, I'm not sure. BUT, she's not a racist.
I don't think she is I just think she's an idiot.
This seemed more classist to me than racist, but I think it also fits in with the overall issue of black people being monitored and policed in a different way from everyone else. I would imagine if NT had done this in the years before BBQ Becky and all those others, it would have been taken differently than it is now.
Bad judgment for a supposed communications expert. But I think it's also worth remembering that this could happen to any of us, who speak without thinking sometimes.
X100. I also think that the person who defended the author by knowing her and "knowing she isn't a racist," is missing this point about policing black people in public.
I'm all for calling out people implicit and explicit biases, but what you're missing as that we as humans tend to police each other all the time. Did none of you peruse and laugh at the people of walmart blog? I used to know a guy on FB whose whole wall was pictures of fat people eating or ordering fast food. Humans are assholes, it's what we do. This country sure has some issues to deal with when it comes to race, but sometimes people aren't racists and things aren't about race, they're about assholery.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Book deal lady seems like a first class beeyatch but I see nothing wrong with this - a uniformed metro employee breaking the law (or what we all thought the law was until yesterday.) This deserves to get called out and I do t see why race matters to anyone except the wapo reporter and all the faux woke people here.
This isn't the metro worker being rude (if that were a crime ain't enough jails in the world). This was small but criminal behavior by someone who KNOWS better.
Because book lady was seen as punching down. It's a bad look for someone who styles herself as an ally to the underrepresented.
I don't understand why it's so hard for people to understand this.
Can we stop with this punching down nonsense.
Jobs at metro are great jobs. Coveted jobs.
NEWSFLASH DUM DUMS: the metro workers are often making as much or more than the white collar riders.
No, we can't stop with this punching down nonsense. No one is saying that this woman was homeless. But some anonymous Metro employee wearing a uniform while eating her lunch when she shouldn't be is not as powerful as an author whose book is about to be published. The author is in a different position. Do you really not understand that?
Well, since her book deal was cancelled, it sounds like her position was quite precarious.
I give up.
You should because you're not explaining yourself well. The Metro worker was wearing a uniform and breaking a Metro rule. Yet the person pointing that out is the one facing consequences. Metro should just dump the rule about eating/drinking if their own employees aren't going to follow it.
+1 People represent their employers when they're on duty.
Anonymous wrote:
The OP here (op of the comment not thread). Possibly, but knowing her, I can tell you if this was an old white man WMATA employee, she'd have made the same tweet. It wasn't class or race based. Part of her brand is calling out hypocrisy when she sees it. In this case, she made several really bad mistakes. But who of us doesn't. And while I completely understand the hypocrisy sentiment, I'd never have posted the woman's picture. But to drag her through the mud and ask for her head was WAY way crazy of a reaction. I'm a liberal and consider myself both woke and an ally, and I think the reaction to this has been hysterical and vindictive. And Unsuckmetro is trash. I didn't realize this till this whole debacle happened.
Anonymous wrote:Why should the Metro employee's race make any difference?
Anonymous wrote:
PP again. I honestly haven't fully processed how I feel either. What she did was pretty dickish and petty imo, but I am convinced her intent wasn't to harm the woman in the photo. I think she was possibly annoyed and in the heat of the moment expressed to what she thought would be a supportive audience. I don't know what her frame of mind was, if it came from having a bad morning without sleep or because she was feeling uppity, but I would like to think that based on my knowledge of her, her intent wasn't to harm the wmata employee. She's not that type of person.
Whether her book is published or not is the last of her concerns now, imo. I honestly feel like her whole world is ruined. Her kids won't be able to go to school without being noticed and recognized and possibly judged, her paycheck is in jeopardy. Yes, she put the WMATA employee's paycheck in jeopardy too, but unintentionally. I really think she did the wrong thing with that tweet, but not wrong enough to wish her whole life's destruction like some gleeful posters about karma shared. The mob went after NT with everything it has, trying to ruin her completely. If you google her, all the crap comes up. This is not some family with a 1.5 million dollar townhouse in the heart of DC, and the mom just decided to write a book. They went after her hard, and I worry about how this will impact her whole life. I find posters who only cared about the WMATA employee's check, and only stood by her because of race to be hypocritical. I'm not white btw. I'm tired of people ganging up on the other. If the issue with the tweet was that it adds to the body of media policing women of color, then we shouldn't join the ranks of some gang, doing the same exact thing to someone else, under the guise of justice.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I actually know this woman, she's not a racist, conflating her stupid tweet with racism is ridiculous. Calling out people is what she does. Why she did it this time, in this fashion, I'm not sure. BUT, she's not a racist.
I don't think she is I just think she's an idiot.
This seemed more classist to me than racist, but I think it also fits in with the overall issue of black people being monitored and policed in a different way from everyone else. I would imagine if NT had done this in the years before BBQ Becky and all those others, it would have been taken differently than it is now.
Bad judgment for a supposed communications expert. But I think it's also worth remembering that this could happen to any of us, who speak without thinking sometimes.
X100. I also think that the person who defended the author by knowing her and "knowing she isn't a racist," is missing this point about policing black people in public.
I'm all for calling out people implicit and explicit biases, but what you're missing as that we as humans tend to police each other all the time. Did none of you peruse and laugh at the people of walmart blog? I used to know a guy on FB whose whole wall was pictures of fat people eating or ordering fast food. Humans are assholes, it's what we do. This country sure has some issues to deal with when it comes to race, but sometimes people aren't racists and things aren't about race, they're about assholery.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I actually know this woman, she's not a racist, conflating her stupid tweet with racism is ridiculous. Calling out people is what she does. Why she did it this time, in this fashion, I'm not sure. BUT, she's not a racist.
I don't think she is I just think she's an idiot.
This seemed more classist to me than racist, but I think it also fits in with the overall issue of black people being monitored and policed in a different way from everyone else. I would imagine if NT had done this in the years before BBQ Becky and all those others, it would have been taken differently than it is now.
Bad judgment for a supposed communications expert. But I think it's also worth remembering that this could happen to any of us, who speak without thinking sometimes.
The OP here (op of the comment not thread). Possibly, but knowing her, I can tell you if this was an old white man WMATA employee, she'd have made the same tweet. It wasn't class or race based. Part of her brand is calling out hypocrisy when she sees it. In this case, she made several really bad mistakes. But who of us doesn't. And while I completely understand the hypocrisy sentiment, I'd never have posted the woman's picture. But to drag her through the mud and ask for her head was WAY way crazy of a reaction. I'm a liberal and consider myself both woke and an ally, and I think the reaction to this has been hysterical and vindictive. And Unsuckmetro is trash. I didn't realize this till this whole debacle happened.
This is PP again (and thank you for being able to talk about the nuances about this and not engaging in hysterics in either direction). I think the thing is that she didn't need to have racist or classist intent for it to come across as racist and/or classist. It just looks real bad when a blue check mark author on Twitter tweets out a photo of a black woman in a uniform, with what sounds like a petty complaint - that the woman didn't obsequiously respond to the author's complaint that she should not be eating on the Metro. I haven't quite parsed through my thoughts about this (outside of that it was obviously just shooting herself in the foot, to tweet this, given that she was looking to be embraced by exactly the people who were clearly going to be offended by this whole thing).
Maybe it just seemed dickish more than anything? Let's even throw a bone to the BBQ Beckys here - say she was right that this person was flagrantly violating important rules and then was rude to boot. It's still dickish to decide that THIS is the thing you want to ruin someone's day over.
What is her personality usually like? Is she petty? Is she overall kind but quick to jump down someone's throat if she thinks they've done wrong? Was she just in a bad mood?
Just reading some of the coverage - it doesn't sound like her book was canceled, just delayed. If I were her I would start immediately trying to rehabilitate my image.
PP again. I honestly haven't fully processed how I feel either. What she did was pretty dickish and petty imo, but I am convinced her intent wasn't to harm the woman in the photo. I think she was possibly annoyed and in the heat of the moment expressed to what she thought would be a supportive audience. I don't know what her frame of mind was, if it came from having a bad morning without sleep or because she was feeling uppity, but I would like to think that based on my knowledge of her, her intent wasn't to harm the wmata employee. She's not that type of person.
Whether her book is published or not is the last of her concerns now, imo. I honestly feel like her whole world is ruined. Her kids won't be able to go to school without being noticed and recognized and possibly judged, her paycheck is in jeopardy. Yes, she put the WMATA employee's paycheck in jeopardy too, but unintentionally. I really think she did the wrong thing with that tweet, but not wrong enough to wish her whole life's destruction like some gleeful posters about karma shared. The mob went after NT with everything it has, trying to ruin her completely. If you google her, all the crap comes up. This is not some family with a 1.5 million dollar townhouse in the heart of DC, and the mom just decided to write a book. They went after her hard, and I worry about how this will impact her whole life. I find posters who only cared about the WMATA employee's check, and only stood by her because of race to be hypocritical. I'm not white btw. I'm tired of people ganging up on the other. If the issue with the tweet was that it adds to the body of media policing women of color, then we shouldn't join the ranks of some gang, doing the same exact thing to someone else, under the guise of justice.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I actually know this woman, she's not a racist, conflating her stupid tweet with racism is ridiculous. Calling out people is what she does. Why she did it this time, in this fashion, I'm not sure. BUT, she's not a racist.
I don't think she is I just think she's an idiot.
This seemed more classist to me than racist, but I think it also fits in with the overall issue of black people being monitored and policed in a different way from everyone else. I would imagine if NT had done this in the years before BBQ Becky and all those others, it would have been taken differently than it is now.
Bad judgment for a supposed communications expert. But I think it's also worth remembering that this could happen to any of us, who speak without thinking sometimes.
X100. I also think that the person who defended the author by knowing her and "knowing she isn't a racist," is missing this point about policing black people in public.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I actually know this woman, she's not a racist, conflating her stupid tweet with racism is ridiculous. Calling out people is what she does. Why she did it this time, in this fashion, I'm not sure. BUT, she's not a racist.
I don't think she is I just think she's an idiot.
This seemed more classist to me than racist, but I think it also fits in with the overall issue of black people being monitored and policed in a different way from everyone else. I would imagine if NT had done this in the years before BBQ Becky and all those others, it would have been taken differently than it is now.
Bad judgment for a supposed communications expert. But I think it's also worth remembering that this could happen to any of us, who speak without thinking sometimes.
The OP here (op of the comment not thread). Possibly, but knowing her, I can tell you if this was an old white man WMATA employee, she'd have made the same tweet. It wasn't class or race based. Part of her brand is calling out hypocrisy when she sees it. In this case, she made several really bad mistakes. But who of us doesn't. And while I completely understand the hypocrisy sentiment, I'd never have posted the woman's picture. But to drag her through the mud and ask for her head was WAY way crazy of a reaction. I'm a liberal and consider myself both woke and an ally, and I think the reaction to this has been hysterical and vindictive. And Unsuckmetro is trash. I didn't realize this till this whole debacle happened.
This is PP again (and thank you for being able to talk about the nuances about this and not engaging in hysterics in either direction). I think the thing is that she didn't need to have racist or classist intent for it to come across as racist and/or classist. It just looks real bad when a blue check mark author on Twitter tweets out a photo of a black woman in a uniform, with what sounds like a petty complaint - that the woman didn't obsequiously respond to the author's complaint that she should not be eating on the Metro. I haven't quite parsed through my thoughts about this (outside of that it was obviously just shooting herself in the foot, to tweet this, given that she was looking to be embraced by exactly the people who were clearly going to be offended by this whole thing).
Maybe it just seemed dickish more than anything? Let's even throw a bone to the BBQ Beckys here - say she was right that this person was flagrantly violating important rules and then was rude to boot. It's still dickish to decide that THIS is the thing you want to ruin someone's day over.
What is her personality usually like? Is she petty? Is she overall kind but quick to jump down someone's throat if she thinks they've done wrong? Was she just in a bad mood?
Just reading some of the coverage - it doesn't sound like her book was canceled, just delayed. If I were her I would start immediately trying to rehabilitate my image.