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That’s a weird idea. All of the college-aged kids I know are voting. Some are at home. Some are off at school. Being away for school just means they had to request absentee ballots.

I know young adults as a group underperform in turnout, but they’re very engaged this year.

Anonymous wrote:Wisconsin GOP spends nearly $2 million in taxpayer money to fight election suits
https://www.jsonline.com/restricted/?return=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.jsonline.com%2Fstory%2Fnews%2Fpolitics%2F2020%2F10%2F15%2Fgop-spends-nearly-2-million-taxpayer-money-fight-election-suits%2F3654160001%2F

Just think if that taxpayer money had been spent giving everyone a 10 pack of masks in the state.

Wisconsin GOP spends nearly $2 million in taxpayer money to fight election suits
https://www.jsonline.com/restricted/?return=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.jsonline.com%2Fstory%2Fnews%2Fpolitics%2F2020%2F10%2F15%2Fgop-spends-nearly-2-million-taxpayer-money-fight-election-suits%2F3654160001%2F

And then there are the unofficial ballot boxes in California. I'm concerned about this because in many states this will be the first year that ballot boxes will be widely used --- so it seems like it would be very easy for someone who has never seen or used a ballot box before to put their ballot in one of the unofficial ones -- and who knows what will happen to it then. If only the Republicans put as much effort into governing as they do cheating and making power grabs....

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/california-gop-wont-remove-ballot-boxes_n_5f879343c5b681f7da1e566d

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All of this white moral outrage over voter suppression could have come in handy sixty years ago - heck, even 20 years ago. Better late than never, I suppose. Just remember: this is not the fruit of one political party. Democrats and Republicans alike have worked to suppress black voters and other persons of color.

Who are you talking to? Most of us were not born yet 60 years ago, and many were not of voting age 20 years ago.

Voter suppression, then and now, is worthy of outrage. Tell me where Democrats are making it harder for people to vote right now.

If the lines in GA indiicate voter suppression, then the lines in VA must also indicate voter suppression.

https://www.axios.com/photos-virginians-line-first-day-early-voting-7309e8d1-6433-4323-876b-94dc4a739ffe.html

In some parts of Virginia, people waited in line up to four hours to cast their ballots on the first day of early voting, according to the Washington Post.

People are lining up to vote in person and scan their ballots because Trump has eroded confidence in absentee mail-in voting. The long lines in Va are a direct result of Trump’s actions.

Anonymous wrote:The way to avoid voter suppression was to realize we were in this overblow COVID deal for the long haul. At that point, the states, all of them, should have set up in person voting starting in August. You don't contract COVID by voting in person. Just like you don't get COVID going to Walmart or Home Depot from the checkout keypad. It just is not a thing. Spare me the nonsense about how voting in person is itself some form of voter suppression.

If you are truly not in your polling district, then you use the absentee ballot system.

Easy. But, nothing can possibly be easy because nobody wants anything to actually work. Instead, we have to freak out about voting in-person like it is the second coming of the plague.

The result of all this is going to be litigation in each swing state, and the only winners are going to be the Election Lawyers. I guess their ship finally came in.

Nope. I agree: Voting in person is not voter suppression. Voting in person with a very limited number of polling stations -- which often coincides with a very limited system of public transportation, and voting requiring the signature of a notary (which for many, is not free and amounts to having to pay to vote) are, indeed voter suppression.

You can, indeed, contract COVID by voting in person. Prove to me that you can't. Just as a contrast, the last time I went to Home Depot, I was there less than 10 minutes and touched nothing except what I bought and the contents of my wallet. The last time I voted in person, I was in line for upwards of 2 hours. Most of this was inside. We were not socially distanced. And I touched several things including the pencil I was given and the table that I used as I filled out my ballot that had been touched and possibly sneezed on by multiple people. Please tell me again how sharing indoor space with lots and lots of people would not be a problem for high risk voters -- or, indeed, anyone trying to avoid COVID.

I'm not sure what to say: It seems never-ending.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/video-shows-conservatives-being-told-not-to-fear-voter-suppressor-label-report_n_5f873f35c5b681f7da1e183a

More examples:

California-Repubs set up fake ballot drop boxes.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/ca-gop-ballot-drop-boxes/?fbclid=IwAR3L0zGrfKtLh4LIhmHHuq5Aj2CJgK1LVTVg63Wf-wIRB85vDkJqY-PRBCw


Texas: Appeals court resinstates governor's one drop box rule. This is headed to Supreme Court where it will be affirmed, further crushing fair and free elections. https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/13/texas-governor-ballot-dropboxes-limit-429138

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Anonymous wrote:All of this white moral outrage over voter suppression could have come in handy sixty years ago - heck, even 20 years ago. Better late than never, I suppose. Just remember: this is not the fruit of one political party. Democrats and Republicans alike have worked to suppress black voters and other persons of color.

Who are you talking to? Most of us were not born yet 60 years ago, and many were not of voting age 20 years ago.

Voter suppression, then and now, is worthy of outrage. Tell me where Democrats are making it harder for people to vote right now.

If the lines in GA indiicate voter suppression, then the lines in VA must also indicate voter suppression.

https://www.axios.com/photos-virginians-line-first-day-early-voting-7309e8d1-6433-4323-876b-94dc4a739ffe.html

In some parts of Virginia, people waited in line up to four hours to cast their ballots on the first day of early voting, according to the Washington Post.

Anonymous wrote:All of this white moral outrage over voter suppression could have come in handy sixty years ago - heck, even 20 years ago. Better late than never, I suppose. Just remember: this is not the fruit of one political party. Democrats and Republicans alike have worked to suppress black voters and other persons of color.

White moral outrage sixty years ago spawned the Voting Rights Act, which conservatives have been chipping away at for my entire lifetime. Including twenty years ago and up until right now.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All of this white moral outrage over voter suppression could have come in handy sixty years ago - heck, even 20 years ago. Better late than never, I suppose. Just remember: this is not the fruit of one political party. Democrats and Republicans alike have worked to suppress black voters and other persons of color.

Who are you talking to? Most of us were not born yet 60 years ago, and many were not of voting age 20 years ago.

Voter suppression, then and now, is worthy of outrage. Tell me where Democrats are making it harder for people to vote right now.

I’m talking to a system of suppression and racism built by white people and maintained by white people - a system that will take several generations to dismantle, if it’s ever truly dismantled at all.