Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There's a new A&E series that Eric participated in, and I find it very compelling. He says that he and his brother honestly thought their dad was going to kill them when they plotted out and killed the parents. He said he had broken down and told Lyle about what his dad had been doing to him--and still was, and Lyle had confronted the father. He said this had never happened before, and the dad was making very threatening overtures, and they were legitimately scared to death of him.

While I don't feel like it excuses murder, I feel like the boys got screwed on their retrial by a judge with political motivations for ensuring they were convicted. I think they should have the possibility of parole. Hell, their whole family save maybe one uncle supported the boys even at the time of trial. A very sad case.

During their initial (first) trial, sexual allegations against their father was not introduced and there was a mistrial.
During the second trial the abuse allegations were introduced and there was hardly a dry eye in the courtroom I assume.

However these two had no record of ever disclosing the abuse to anyone - except one cousin who one of them had written a letter to months before.
Of course now we also know that a former Menudo member alleges that the father sexually abused him.

These two things are not enough evidence imo to free these two sociopaths from prison.
Because anyone can say they were abused.
And the letter that was written months before the parent’s murder could have been part of the brother’s strategic murder plan.
After all it appears they orchestrated this killing as evidenced by driving to SD to obtain the guns.

If they truly were fearful that their father planned on killing them that fateful night all they had to do was not return home.

They already had a car that they had used to leave the house that evening.

No, you have this wrong. Yes during first trial the sexual abuse was introduced and the defense won them a mistrial.

Then in the second trial the judge denied them the opportunity to introduce most all of the evidence about sexual abuse they’d presented at the first trial, and they were hampered by the older brother’s inability to testify because of impeaching evidence that had come into the hands of the state thanks to his recorded calls with a female admirer while in jail between trials. The defense was much weaker and the jury convicted them of first degree murder.

The Menendez case is in my mind infamous for the assertions in a court of law by the prosecutors that men cannot be raped. Shocking, horrible ignorance.

I am the same age as Lyle Menendez and clearly remember both times when he and his brother were on trial.

I do not think the mindset during this time period was that men could not be raped, molested, etc.
I never remember this being a barrier to why their abuse allegations did not exonerate them at the time.

I think the problem that people had w/the abuse allegations were that there just wasn’t enough solid proof to justify the brutal crime that was committed by them.

Even now, I do not think there is solid evidence that they were abused even though I am not ruling it out.
In order for these men to be released into society after such a heinous murder there would need to be substantial proof of abuse to even justify their release.

If these two individuals were truly abused at home, then why did they claim self-defense?
Adding in this element only takes the case in a completely different direction when these brothers now claim that they feared for their own lives.
The only ones who should have feared for their lives were their parents and rightfully so.

End of story.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There's a new A&E series that Eric participated in, and I find it very compelling. He says that he and his brother honestly thought their dad was going to kill them when they plotted out and killed the parents. He said he had broken down and told Lyle about what his dad had been doing to him--and still was, and Lyle had confronted the father. He said this had never happened before, and the dad was making very threatening overtures, and they were legitimately scared to death of him.

While I don't feel like it excuses murder, I feel like the boys got screwed on their retrial by a judge with political motivations for ensuring they were convicted. I think they should have the possibility of parole. Hell, their whole family save maybe one uncle supported the boys even at the time of trial. A very sad case.

During their initial (first) trial, sexual allegations against their father was not introduced and there was a mistrial.
During the second trial the abuse allegations were introduced and there was hardly a dry eye in the courtroom I assume.

However these two had no record of ever disclosing the abuse to anyone - except one cousin who one of them had written a letter to months before.
Of course now we also know that a former Menudo member alleges that the father sexually abused him.

These two things are not enough evidence imo to free these two sociopaths from prison.
Because anyone can say they were abused.
And the letter that was written months before the parent’s murder could have been part of the brother’s strategic murder plan.
After all it appears they orchestrated this killing as evidenced by driving to SD to obtain the guns.

If they truly were fearful that their father planned on killing them that fateful night all they had to do was not return home.

They already had a car that they had used to leave the house that evening.

No, you have this wrong. Yes during first trial the sexual abuse was introduced and the defense won them a mistrial.

Then in the second trial the judge denied them the opportunity to introduce most all of the evidence about sexual abuse they’d presented at the first trial, and they were hampered by the older brother’s inability to testify because of impeaching evidence that had come into the hands of the state thanks to his recorded calls with a female admirer while in jail between trials. The defense was much weaker and the jury convicted them of first degree murder.

The Menendez case is in my mind infamous for the assertions in a court of law by the prosecutors that men cannot be raped. Shocking, horrible ignorance.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They will never be released into society.
The sooner they admit this to themselves the better it will be for them.

Mark my words.
They will never experience freedom again.
At least not in this lifetime.

I hope you're right.

Anonymous wrote:They will never be released into society.
The sooner they admit this to themselves the better it will be for them.

Mark my words.
They will never experience freedom again.
At least not in this lifetime.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There's a new A&E series that Eric participated in, and I find it very compelling. He says that he and his brother honestly thought their dad was going to kill them when they plotted out and killed the parents. He said he had broken down and told Lyle about what his dad had been doing to him--and still was, and Lyle had confronted the father. He said this had never happened before, and the dad was making very threatening overtures, and they were legitimately scared to death of him.

While I don't feel like it excuses murder, I feel like the boys got screwed on their retrial by a judge with political motivations for ensuring they were convicted. I think they should have the possibility of parole. Hell, their whole family save maybe one uncle supported the boys even at the time of trial. A very sad case.

During their initial (first) trial, sexual allegations against their father was not introduced and there was a mistrial.
During the second trial the abuse allegations were introduced and there was hardly a dry eye in the courtroom I assume.

However these two had no record of ever disclosing the abuse to anyone - except one cousin who one of them had written a letter to months before.
Of course now we also know that a former Menudo member alleges that the father sexually abused him.

These two things are not enough evidence imo to free these two sociopaths from prison.
Because anyone can say they were abused.
And the letter that was written months before the parent’s murder could have been part of the brother’s strategic murder plan.
After all it appears they orchestrated this killing as evidenced by driving to SD to obtain the guns.

If they truly were fearful that their father planned on killing them that fateful night all they had to do was not return home.

They already had a car that they had used to leave the house that evening.

No, you have this wrong. Yes during first trial the sexual abuse was introduced and the defense won them a mistrial.

Then in the second trial the judge denied them the opportunity to introduce most all of the evidence about sexual abuse they’d presented at the first trial, and they were hampered by the older brother’s inability to testify because of impeaching evidence that had come into the hands of the state thanks to his recorded calls with a female admirer while in jail between trials. The defense was much weaker and the jury convicted them of first degree murder.

The Menendez case is in my mind infamous for the assertions in a court of law by the prosecutors that men cannot be raped. Shocking, horrible ignorance.

I am the same age as Lyle Menendez and clearly remember both times when he and his brother were on trial.

I do not think the mindset during this time period was that men could not be raped, molested, etc.
I never remember this being a barrier to why their abuse allegations did not exonerate them at the time.

I think the problem that people had w/the abuse allegations were that there just wasn’t enough solid proof to justify the brutal crime that was committed by them.

Even now, I do not think there is solid evidence that they were abused even though I am not ruling it out.
In order for these men to be released into society after such a heinous murder there would need to be substantial proof of abuse to even justify their release.

If these two individuals were truly abused at home, then why did they claim self-defense?
Adding in this element only takes the case in a completely different direction when these brothers now claim that they feared for their own lives.
The only ones who should have feared for their lives were their parents and rightfully so.

End of story.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There's a new A&E series that Eric participated in, and I find it very compelling. He says that he and his brother honestly thought their dad was going to kill them when they plotted out and killed the parents. He said he had broken down and told Lyle about what his dad had been doing to him--and still was, and Lyle had confronted the father. He said this had never happened before, and the dad was making very threatening overtures, and they were legitimately scared to death of him.

While I don't feel like it excuses murder, I feel like the boys got screwed on their retrial by a judge with political motivations for ensuring they were convicted. I think they should have the possibility of parole. Hell, their whole family save maybe one uncle supported the boys even at the time of trial. A very sad case.

During their initial (first) trial, sexual allegations against their father was not introduced and there was a mistrial.
During the second trial the abuse allegations were introduced and there was hardly a dry eye in the courtroom I assume.

However these two had no record of ever disclosing the abuse to anyone - except one cousin who one of them had written a letter to months before.
Of course now we also know that a former Menudo member alleges that the father sexually abused him.

These two things are not enough evidence imo to free these two sociopaths from prison.
Because anyone can say they were abused.
And the letter that was written months before the parent’s murder could have been part of the brother’s strategic murder plan.
After all it appears they orchestrated this killing as evidenced by driving to SD to obtain the guns.

If they truly were fearful that their father planned on killing them that fateful night all they had to do was not return home.

They already had a car that they had used to leave the house that evening.

No, you have this wrong. Yes during first trial the sexual abuse was introduced and the defense won them a mistrial.

Then in the second trial the judge denied them the opportunity to introduce most all of the evidence about sexual abuse they’d presented at the first trial, and they were hampered by the older brother’s inability to testify because of impeaching evidence that had come into the hands of the state thanks to his recorded calls with a female admirer while in jail between trials. The defense was much weaker and the jury convicted them of first degree murder.

The Menendez case is in my mind infamous for the assertions in a court of law by the prosecutors that men cannot be raped. Shocking, horrible ignorance.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They are claiming they didn’t follow the prison rules (like smuggling in a contraband, unpermitted cellular phone) due to being afraid their private conversations via the prison phone calls would be leaked to the media.

Erik stated during his parole hearing that at the time when he broke the jail rules, he was under the impression that he was never getting out so…..!

They always have an answer, an excuse for everything they do.
Their justifications carry zero logic too.

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Agree. The parole board made the correct decision. When Lyle stated his mother sexually abused him too, out of the blue in the latest hearing, that made me question whether anything those two have ever said was true. He clearly fabricated a new response to the question that sunk Erik--why savagely murder their mother too? They are serial liars and psychopaths. I hope they never get out.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There's a new A&E series that Eric participated in, and I find it very compelling. He says that he and his brother honestly thought their dad was going to kill them when they plotted out and killed the parents. He said he had broken down and told Lyle about what his dad had been doing to him--and still was, and Lyle had confronted the father. He said this had never happened before, and the dad was making very threatening overtures, and they were legitimately scared to death of him.

While I don't feel like it excuses murder, I feel like the boys got screwed on their retrial by a judge with political motivations for ensuring they were convicted. I think they should have the possibility of parole. Hell, their whole family save maybe one uncle supported the boys even at the time of trial. A very sad case.

During their initial (first) trial, sexual allegations against their father was not introduced and there was a mistrial.
During the second trial the abuse allegations were introduced and there was hardly a dry eye in the courtroom I assume.

However these two had no record of ever disclosing the abuse to anyone - except one cousin who one of them had written a letter to months before.
Of course now we also know that a former Menudo member alleges that the father sexually abused him.

These two things are not enough evidence imo to free these two sociopaths from prison.
Because anyone can say they were abused.
And the letter that was written months before the parent’s murder could have been part of the brother’s strategic murder plan.
After all it appears they orchestrated this killing as evidenced by driving to SD to obtain the guns.

If they truly were fearful that their father planned on killing them that fateful night all they had to do was not return home.

They already had a car that they had used to leave the house that evening.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They are claiming they didn’t follow the prison rules (like smuggling in a contraband, unpermitted cellular phone) due to being afraid their private conversations via the prison phone calls would be leaked to the media.

Erik stated during his parole hearing that at the time when he broke the jail rules, he was under the impression that he was never getting out so…..!

They always have an answer, an excuse for everything they do.
Their justifications carry zero logic too.

+1