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Anonymous wrote:http://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/emeril-lagasse/emerils-lasagna-recipe.html


http://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/bobby-flay/lasagna-recipe.html

Browse these for an example of how a lasagna can be expensive.
They might me even more than $80.
The eight dollar lasagna lady obviously doesn't get out much,

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Michael Pollan has talked a lot about how people expect to buy food for dirt cheap nowadays. We're putting this stuff into our bodies and we constantly consume fake food products, that have basically no nutritional value, and we balk at spending more. Contrast that to how we used to eat, where there was a reverence for food because we understood how difficult it is to grow a tomato, for example. How that takes months to do, and lots of tending and everything else.

it's kind of shocking to see people getting so up in arms about an expensive, made-from-scratch lasagna that obviously contains higher end, healthier ingredients. It literally is the $8 lasagna (and $1 cheeseburger, etc etc etc) that is fueling the obesity and health epidemic in the US today, and people remain totally clueless.

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Anonymous wrote:Speaking of cheap food... my SIL bragged about getting a $7 turkey for the thanksgiving table... I tried to forget the fact that is was 50c/lb the whole time I was sitting at the table...I couldn't tell my son not to eat it; in fact I had to eat it, as there was not much else except Brüssel sprouts, cauliflower and wine
The turkey tasted well btw.

If it tasted "well," why do you care how much it cost? Try to be gracious and appreciate hospitality instead of counting other people's money and side dishes.

Because it's injected with hormones and antibiotics and probably led a horrific life? Some people care about where their food is from. Duh. NP, btw.

Turkeys aren't treated with hormones. If you're going to complain about something, make sure you actually know what you're talking about. Next time, why don't you visit the farm, make sure the birds are happy, and then have one butchered right in front of you so you can be sure it was treated humanely. Your SIL will be thrilled that you provided such a high quality item for the meal.

Yes, because it's either a 50 cent per pound turkey or personally checking each turkey as if you were giving a presidential pardon. Definitely. No in-between at all.

What is the in-between option? Around here, you can pre-order a freshly butchered free-range bird from a farm or buy one frozen (or previously frozen) from the supermarket. I'm sure the supermarket will let you pay more if you insist.

There you go!!!! That sounds like a perfectly reasonable option. See, that wasn't so hard, now was it?

The reasonable option is the eat the perfectly fine food your family purchased and cooked for you like a gracious guest. I mean, you're too stupid to even realize that poultry isn't treated with hormones.

I'm not the PP. But anyone who thinks that what they put into their body is not going to have an effect, is an imbecile of the highest order. No one said they threw a fit, they said they were unhappy with the meal. Get it right.

It sounds like that poster was getting ready to pull the food out of her kid's mouth because her SIL bought it on sale. Nobody is harmed by eating turkey from the grocery store.I'm not saying that I don't care what I put into my body, I'm just saying that food labeled "all natural" or "organic" is absolutely no different to your health than the same food without those labels. It is a marketing ploy to get you to pay more. The joke is on you and the corporations are laughing all the way to the bank.

No, this is DCUM hysteria and paranoia, as usual.

You can eat whatever antibiotic loaded meat you want, as much as you want. If you want to chow down on Big Macs every single day, I don't care- it's your body, you can hammer a nail through your hand if you want to. No sweat off my bag. But when you try to shame those of us who actually do care, that's when you look like a damn fool.

Not PP, but I wanted to jump in here. So, I pay more to buy a fresh and never frozen turkey because I brine the turkey, and the recipe our family has always used says to use a fresh turkey that is between 12-14 lbs for the best results. I have not been able to find a fresh and never frozen turkey of that size in the grocery stores around here that isn't labelled organic. But I suspect it's a crock. My husband's good friend worked for many years at one of the top "organic" meat producers in our region (not turkey, but I don't want to give too many details). The meat is not organic. And the farm's practices would have been easily uncovered had anyone bothered to look, but nobody is checking on this. There is no oversight and no regulatory agency has the manpower to verify that what a producer says is "organic" actually is organic. Most likely, it's not.

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Anonymous wrote:Pulling up in a new Mercedes SUV with their 4 kids and all they brought was a cheap-o Kroger pumpkin pie. My husband and I spent over $1000 on this spread!

You did not. And if you spent that much AND are that much of a bean-counter, then chances are you live well outside your means and have tons of credit card debt.

I often spend that much on a holiday meal.
We spend $400 on alcohol alone.

Wow, how many people do you invite?

20

But that because I'm buying red wine, white wine, beer, brandy, cognac, whiskey, vodka, baileys. I would die if someone asked for something and I didn't have it.

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Anonymous wrote:Speaking of cheap food... my SIL bragged about getting a $7 turkey for the thanksgiving table... I tried to forget the fact that is was 50c/lb the whole time I was sitting at the table...I couldn't tell my son not to eat it; in fact I had to eat it, as there was not much else except Brüssel sprouts, cauliflower and wine
The turkey tasted well btw.

If it tasted "well," why do you care how much it cost? Try to be gracious and appreciate hospitality instead of counting other people's money and side dishes.

Because it's injected with hormones and antibiotics and probably led a horrific life? Some people care about where their food is from. Duh. NP, btw.

Turkeys aren't treated with hormones. If you're going to complain about something, make sure you actually know what you're talking about. Next time, why don't you visit the farm, make sure the birds are happy, and then have one butchered right in front of you so you can be sure it was treated humanely. Your SIL will be thrilled that you provided such a high quality item for the meal.

Yes, because it's either a 50 cent per pound turkey or personally checking each turkey as if you were giving a presidential pardon. Definitely. No in-between at all.

What is the in-between option? Around here, you can pre-order a freshly butchered free-range bird from a farm or buy one frozen (or previously frozen) from the supermarket. I'm sure the supermarket will let you pay more if you insist.

There you go!!!! That sounds like a perfectly reasonable option. See, that wasn't so hard, now was it?

The reasonable option is the eat the perfectly fine food your family purchased and cooked for you like a gracious guest. I mean, you're too stupid to even realize that poultry isn't treated with hormones.

I'm not the PP. But anyone who thinks that what they put into their body is not going to have an effect, is an imbecile of the highest order. No one said they threw a fit, they said they were unhappy with the meal. Get it right.

It sounds like that poster was getting ready to pull the food out of her kid's mouth because her SIL bought it on sale. Nobody is harmed by eating turkey from the grocery store.I'm not saying that I don't care what I put into my body, I'm just saying that food labeled "all natural" or "organic" is absolutely no different to your health than the same food without those labels. It is a marketing ploy to get you to pay more. The joke is on you and the corporations are laughing all the way to the bank.

No, this is DCUM hysteria and paranoia, as usual.

You can eat whatever antibiotic loaded meat you want, as much as you want. If you want to chow down on Big Macs every single day, I don't care- it's your body, you can hammer a nail through your hand if you want to. No sweat off my bag. But when you try to shame those of us who actually do care, that's when you look like a damn fool.

Not PP, but I wanted to jump in here. So, I pay more to buy a fresh and never frozen turkey because I brine the turkey, and the recipe our family has always used says to use a fresh turkey that is between 12-14 lbs for the best results. I have not been able to find a fresh and never frozen turkey of that size in the grocery stores around here that isn't labelled organic. But I suspect it's a crock. My husband's good friend worked for many years at one of the top "organic" meat producers in our region (not turkey, but I don't want to give too many details). The meat is not organic. And the farm's practices would have been easily uncovered had anyone bothered to look, but nobody is checking on this. There is no oversight and no regulatory agency has the manpower to verify that what a producer says is "organic" actually is organic. Most likely, it's not.

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Anonymous wrote:Speaking of cheap food... my SIL bragged about getting a $7 turkey for the thanksgiving table... I tried to forget the fact that is was 50c/lb the whole time I was sitting at the table...I couldn't tell my son not to eat it; in fact I had to eat it, as there was not much else except Brüssel sprouts, cauliflower and wine
The turkey tasted well btw.

If it tasted "well," why do you care how much it cost? Try to be gracious and appreciate hospitality instead of counting other people's money and side dishes.

Because it's injected with hormones and antibiotics and probably led a horrific life? Some people care about where their food is from. Duh. NP, btw.

Turkeys aren't treated with hormones. If you're going to complain about something, make sure you actually know what you're talking about. Next time, why don't you visit the farm, make sure the birds are happy, and then have one butchered right in front of you so you can be sure it was treated humanely. Your SIL will be thrilled that you provided such a high quality item for the meal.

Yes, because it's either a 50 cent per pound turkey or personally checking each turkey as if you were giving a presidential pardon. Definitely. No in-between at all.

What is the in-between option? Around here, you can pre-order a freshly butchered free-range bird from a farm or buy one frozen (or previously frozen) from the supermarket. I'm sure the supermarket will let you pay more if you insist.

There you go!!!! That sounds like a perfectly reasonable option. See, that wasn't so hard, now was it?

The reasonable option is the eat the perfectly fine food your family purchased and cooked for you like a gracious guest. I mean, you're too stupid to even realize that poultry isn't treated with hormones.

I'm not the PP. But anyone who thinks that what they put into their body is not going to have an effect, is an imbecile of the highest order. No one said they threw a fit, they said they were unhappy with the meal. Get it right.

It sounds like that poster was getting ready to pull the food out of her kid's mouth because her SIL bought it on sale. Nobody is harmed by eating turkey from the grocery store.I'm not saying that I don't care what I put into my body, I'm just saying that food labeled "all natural" or "organic" is absolutely no different to your health than the same food without those labels. It is a marketing ploy to get you to pay more. The joke is on you and the corporations are laughing all the way to the bank.

No, this is DCUM hysteria and paranoia, as usual.

You can eat whatever antibiotic loaded meat you want, as much as you want. If you want to chow down on Big Macs every single day, I don't care- it's your body, you can hammer a nail through your hand if you want to. No sweat off my bag. But when you try to shame those of us who actually do care, that's when you look like a damn fool.

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+1000

Enjoy your organic Tofurkey. Nothing unnatural about that critter

Enjoy your $8 lasagna.

and now we've come full circle... is this thread done yet???

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Anonymous wrote:I would never eat a butterball. No way.

+1000

Enjoy your organic Tofurkey. Nothing unnatural about that critter

Enjoy your $8 lasagna.