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I've also "taught my children to be respectful (to everyone) and to always obey/follow orders from the police and emergency personel."

That will work just fine as long as your children are white.

Most of the kids did sit down and shut up and they were not thrown to the ground.

Yes, but she was not asked to sit down. She was asked to leave. Which she was doing when the cop got all butt hurt and chased her down. He had to make an effort to go after her. Why are you ignoring this or excusing it?

Good precision. I can only imagine how the maniac teen would have reacted if asked to sit down and wait. The officer gave her a chance to just leave, and she chose to blow it off with smart ass comments first and resisting instructions, second.

Are you a stranger to "smart ass comments"? How would you enjoy being grabbed and detained after making one? Just because he's a cop doesn't mean it's justifiable. He is supposed to control himself and his community. He failed at his job, and made the call worse, whereas the teens aren't as accountable because they are minors.

It was an extremely chaotic situation that could have turned volatile. You can follow the command or you can decide not to and mouth off and be arrested. She should have been taught manners, how to follow direction and how to be respectful. Nothing to do with race, everything to do with teenage behavior.

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I've also "taught my children to be respectful (to everyone) and to always obey/follow orders from the police and emergency personel."

That will work just fine as long as your children are white.

Most of the kids did sit down and shut up and they were not thrown to the ground.

Yes, but she was not asked to sit down. She was asked to leave. Which she was doing when the cop got all butt hurt and chased her down. He had to make an effort to go after her. Why are you ignoring this or excusing it?

Good precision. I can only imagine how the maniac teen would have reacted if asked to sit down and wait. The officer gave her a chance to just leave, and she chose to blow it off with smart ass comments first and resisting instructions, second.

Are you a stranger to "smart ass comments"? How would you enjoy being grabbed and detained after making one? Just because he's a cop doesn't mean it's justifiable. He is supposed to control himself and his community. He failed at his job, and made the call worse, whereas the teens aren't as accountable because they are minors.

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Anonymous wrote:

I've also "taught my children to be respectful (to everyone) and to always obey/follow orders from the police and emergency personel."

That will work just fine as long as your children are white.

Most of the kids did sit down and shut up and they were not thrown to the ground.

Yes, but she was not asked to sit down. She was asked to leave. Which she was doing when the cop got all butt hurt and chased her down. He had to make an effort to go after her. Why are you ignoring this or excusing it?

+1, I just watched it a second time and he is yelling at them to disperse (or, "Get your asses out of here," whichever) and she is leaving, mouths off, and he says something like "I'll arrest both of you then," charges over to them and grabs her.

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Anonymous wrote:

I've also "taught my children to be respectful (to everyone) and to always obey/follow orders from the police and emergency personel."

That will work just fine as long as your children are white.

Most of the kids did sit down and shut up and they were not thrown to the ground.

Yes, but she was not asked to sit down. She was asked to leave. Which she was doing when the cop got all butt hurt and chased her down. He had to make an effort to go after her. Why are you ignoring this or excusing it?

Good precision. I can only imagine how the maniac teen would have reacted if asked to sit down and wait. The officer gave her a chance to just leave, and she chose to blow it off with smart ass comments first and resisting instructions, second.

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I've also "taught my children to be respectful (to everyone) and to always obey/follow orders from the police and emergency personel."

That will work just fine as long as your children are white.

Most of the kids did sit down and shut up and they were not thrown to the ground.

Yes, but she was not asked to sit down. She was asked to leave. Which she was doing when the cop got all butt hurt and chased her down. He had to make an effort to go after her. Why are you ignoring this or excusing it?

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Anonymous wrote:

I've also "taught my children to be respectful (to everyone) and to always obey/follow orders from the police and emergency personel."

That will work just fine as long as your children are white.

Most of the kids did sit down and shut up and they were not thrown to the ground.

+1. But the blind won't see the obvious.

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I've also "taught my children to be respectful (to everyone) and to always obey/follow orders from the police and emergency personel."

That will work just fine as long as your children are white.

Most of the kids did sit down and shut up and they were not thrown to the ground.

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You really shouldn't get mouthy with a cop. Ever try that with a speeding ticket?

Well, it is not illegal to do so and it does not warrant being forcibly restrained - IF the officer is doing his job right. See, you want to say the girl got slammed because she mouthed off. But slamming her is NOT a legal response to her mouthing. So even if you say the 14YO was wrong...what does that make the profesionally trained officer?

I didn't say it was illegal. It isn't a good idea though, especially in a highly chaotic scene like that.

I've taught my children to be respectful (to everyone) and to always obey/follow orders from the police and emergency personel. If the police were in the wrong our lawyer can sort it out later.

Better that then injured in the chaos, beaten, tasered or dead.

Have you heard of Kalief Browder? What do you think about him being held at Rikers for two years (right to due process not granted)? Regarding this, can you understand why some families do not share your faith re: the equity of the justice system?

Have you heard of Freddy Gray? Police were wrong; he never even made it to the precinct, much less to his lawyer.

Those are rather unique cases. I don't think I'll base my parenting choices on them.

Not a response to parenting. PP was blithe when mentioning that, in the case of police misconduct, her lawyer would sort it out later. I was pointing out that some people, due to police misconduct and flaws in the justice system, don't get the chance to call their lawyer and set it straight.

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I've also "taught my children to be respectful (to everyone) and to always obey/follow orders from the police and emergency personel."

That will work just fine as long as your children are white.

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I've also "taught my children to be respectful (to everyone) and to always obey/follow orders from the police and emergency personel."

That will work just fine as long as your children are white.

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You really shouldn't get mouthy with a cop. Ever try that with a speeding ticket?

Well, it is not illegal to do so and it does not warrant being forcibly restrained - IF the officer is doing his job right. See, you want to say the girl got slammed because she mouthed off. But slamming her is NOT a legal response to her mouthing. So even if you say the 14YO was wrong...what does that make the profesionally trained officer?

I didn't say it was illegal. It isn't a good idea though, especially in a highly chaotic scene like that.

I've taught my children to be respectful (to everyone) and to always obey/follow orders from the police and emergency personel. If the police were in the wrong our lawyer can sort it out later.

Better that then injured in the chaos, beaten, tasered or dead.

Have you heard of Kalief Browder? What do you think about him being held at Rikers for two years (right to due process not granted)? Regarding this, can you understand why some families do not share your faith re: the equity of the justice system?

Have you heard of Freddy Gray? Police were wrong; he never even made it to the precinct, much less to his lawyer.

Those are rather unique cases. I don't think I'll base my parenting choices on them.

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You really shouldn't get mouthy with a cop. Ever try that with a speeding ticket?

Well, it is not illegal to do so and it does not warrant being forcibly restrained - IF the officer is doing his job right. See, you want to say the girl got slammed because she mouthed off. But slamming her is NOT a legal response to her mouthing. So even if you say the 14YO was wrong...what does that make the profesionally trained officer?

I didn't say it was illegal. It isn't a good idea though, especially in a highly chaotic scene like that.

I've taught my children to be respectful (to everyone) and to always obey/follow orders from the police and emergency personel. If the police were in the wrong our lawyer can sort it out later.

Better that then injured in the chaos, beaten, tasered or dead.

Have you heard of Kalief Browder? What do you think about him being held at Rikers for two years (right to due process not granted)? Regarding this, can you understand why some families do not share your faith re: the equity of the justice system?

Have you heard of Freddy Gray? Police were wrong; he never even made it to the precinct, much less to his lawyer.

Ever heard of the 30+ people killed in Baltimore since the riots? Can you name just five? If not, why not, when you know Kalief and Freddy so well?

Police are sometimes wrong, and suspended as in this case. Still, it is the best defense we have against a Baltimore-style orgy of violence so, as previous PP suggested, I've also "taught my children to be respectful (to everyone) and to always obey/follow orders from the police and emergency personel."

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Anonymous wrote:
You really shouldn't get mouthy with a cop. Ever try that with a speeding ticket?

Well, it is not illegal to do so and it does not warrant being forcibly restrained - IF the officer is doing his job right. See, you want to say the girl got slammed because she mouthed off. But slamming her is NOT a legal response to her mouthing. So even if you say the 14YO was wrong...what does that make the profesionally trained officer?

I didn't say it was illegal. It isn't a good idea though, especially in a highly chaotic scene like that.

I've taught my children to be respectful (to everyone) and to always obey/follow orders from the police and emergency personel. If the police were in the wrong our lawyer can sort it out later.

Better that then injured in the chaos, beaten, tasered or dead.

Word

I am the PP. I agree 95%. Sure, the girl should have kept quiet. But it was not like she was going nose to nose with him either. She was obeying his instructions. She said something slick and he chased her down and grabbed her. So yea, she should have been quiet but as the trained adult police officer, he should have let it slide as long as she was obeying his instructions.

And I have taught my children to obey law enforcement but to know their rights also. Officer asks your name, give it to him. He asks you to move along, do it. He wants to search your car - nope, not unless my lawyer and/or parents are present.

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You really shouldn't get mouthy with a cop. Ever try that with a speeding ticket?

Well, it is not illegal to do so and it does not warrant being forcibly restrained - IF the officer is doing his job right. See, you want to say the girl got slammed because she mouthed off. But slamming her is NOT a legal response to her mouthing. So even if you say the 14YO was wrong...what does that make the profesionally trained officer?

I didn't say it was illegal. It isn't a good idea though, especially in a highly chaotic scene like that.

I've taught my children to be respectful (to everyone) and to always obey/follow orders from the police and emergency personel. If the police were in the wrong our lawyer can sort it out later.

Better that then injured in the chaos, beaten, tasered or dead.

Actually he was just a really bad cop. My mom actually got into with a cop before and no hands were laid on her. The good thing is now that it's know that this cop has an anger problem, he will likely be fired. It's probably for the best because if he buckles under pressure like that it's only a matter of time before his gun 'accidentally' goes off on someone.

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Anonymous wrote:
You really shouldn't get mouthy with a cop. Ever try that with a speeding ticket?

Well, it is not illegal to do so and it does not warrant being forcibly restrained - IF the officer is doing his job right. See, you want to say the girl got slammed because she mouthed off. But slamming her is NOT a legal response to her mouthing. So even if you say the 14YO was wrong...what does that make the profesionally trained officer?

I didn't say it was illegal. It isn't a good idea though, especially in a highly chaotic scene like that.

I've taught my children to be respectful (to everyone) and to always obey/follow orders from the police and emergency personel. If the police were in the wrong our lawyer can sort it out later.

Better that then injured in the chaos, beaten, tasered or dead.

Have you heard of Kalief Browder? What do you think about him being held at Rikers for two years (right to due process not granted)? Regarding this, can you understand why some families do not share your faith re: the equity of the justice system?

Have you heard of Freddy Gray? Police were wrong; he never even made it to the precinct, much less to his lawyer.