Anonymous
Post 03/27/2015 10:18     Subject: Re:PARCC monitoring student's social media, wants schools to "punish" them
I suggest two improvements:
Eliminate testing requirement in NCLB.
Eliminate Common Core--but that is up to the states.



Perfect. Win for everyone.
Anonymous
Post 03/27/2015 09:11     Subject: Re:PARCC monitoring student's social media, wants schools to "punish" them
I suggest two improvements:
Eliminate testing requirement in NCLB.
Eliminate Common Core--but that is up to the states.
Anonymous
Post 03/27/2015 09:08     Subject: Re:PARCC monitoring student's social media, wants schools to "punish" them
The testing requirements in the No Child Left Behind Act are a separate issue, affecting both states that did not adopt the Common Core standards and states that did.



Yes, that's the big problem that needs to be dealt with. The testing requirements need to go away because they are corrupting the whole process. You can't deal with only one side of the equation.
Anonymous
Post 03/27/2015 09:06     Subject: Re:PARCC monitoring student's social media, wants schools to "punish" them
Nobody made the states apply for Race to the Top funding, nor did Race for the Top require adopting the Common Core standards. And in any case, there is no more Race to the Top.


True enough, but the "great recession" was upon us at that time. Race to the Top accepted CC as standards that were approved. It encouraged them. It was an "easy solution" at the time. Politicians will take the short term easy fix every time. The feds know that. Now that it is all becoming reality, things don't look so rosy.
Anonymous
Post 03/27/2015 07:12     Subject: PARCC monitoring student's social media, wants schools to "punish" them
Anonymous wrote:

The problem is that NCLB is still in effect (requiring testing). Because of Race to the Top, the states were pressured to accept CC. Now they have to implement something quickly and that something has to be accepted by the feds. It's not as easy as the PP is making it sounds. The feds have been in the driver's seat because of the NCLB required testing.


Nobody made the states apply for Race to the Top funding, nor did Race for the Top require adopting the Common Core standards. And in any case, there is no more Race to the Top.

The testing requirements in the No Child Left Behind Act are a separate issue, affecting both states that did not adopt the Common Core standards and states that did.
Anonymous
Post 03/26/2015 21:45     Subject: PARCC monitoring student's social media, wants schools to "punish" them


The problem is that NCLB is still in effect (requiring testing). Because of Race to the Top, the states were pressured to accept CC. Now they have to implement something quickly and that something has to be accepted by the feds. It's not as easy as the PP is making it sounds. The feds have been in the driver's seat because of the NCLB required testing.
Anonymous
Post 03/26/2015 21:04     Subject: Re:PARCC monitoring student's social media, wants schools to "punish" them
Anonymous wrote:

Why get rid of it? And if you get rid of it, what do you propose replacing it with?


Not PP--leave it up to the states or local boards.



But it already is up to the states, right now. And the states can decide whether or not to let their local boards decide.
Anonymous
Post 03/26/2015 21:00     Subject: Re:PARCC monitoring student's social media, wants schools to "punish" them

Why get rid of it? And if you get rid of it, what do you propose replacing it with?


Not PP--leave it up to the states or local boards.




Anonymous
Post 03/26/2015 20:58     Subject: PARCC monitoring student's social media, wants schools to "punish" them
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What's not pretty? That the Common Core standards have not produced an increase in standardized test scores? I'm not surprised. Standards alone don't do much; they need to be accompanied by effective curricula and effective teacher training, both of which cost money. In addition, the biggest determinant of standardized test scores is socioeconomic status.

Also, is your point that standardized test scores haven't gone up, therefore we should get rid of the Common Core standards? If so, that doesn't follow.


Five years of teaching Common Core, with little results in testing.

So why keep it? It's not working to fix the "broken" system we allegedly have.


Why get rid of it? And if you get rid of it, what do you propose replacing it with?
Anonymous
Post 03/26/2015 20:20     Subject: PARCC monitoring student's social media, wants schools to "punish" them
Anonymous wrote:What's not pretty? That the Common Core standards have not produced an increase in standardized test scores? I'm not surprised. Standards alone don't do much; they need to be accompanied by effective curricula and effective teacher training, both of which cost money. In addition, the biggest determinant of standardized test scores is socioeconomic status.

Also, is your point that standardized test scores haven't gone up, therefore we should get rid of the Common Core standards? If so, that doesn't follow.


Five years of teaching Common Core, with little results in testing.

So why keep it? It's not working to fix the "broken" system we allegedly have.
Anonymous
Post 03/26/2015 17:48     Subject: Re:PARCC monitoring student's social media, wants schools to "punish" them
In fact, one wonders if they do ANYTHING well. FAIL.



I'm sure the new standards will fix this problem that "they don't do ANYTHING well".

If you have no confidence in "them", your standards won't mean squat.
Anonymous
Post 03/26/2015 17:45     Subject: Re:PARCC monitoring student's social media, wants schools to "punish" them
Anonymous wrote:


So you are giving academics a short schrift in favor of soft skills. Well, if you think DCPS has historically been doing a good job of teaching kids soft skills then you are sorely mistaken there as well! Witnessed a whole bunch of shoving, yelling and a fight on a city bus just this morning! SORELY mistaken.



You saw kids behaving badly on a city bus this morning, and this proves that the public schools are failing? Really?



+1 What happened to that focus on the "data"?
Anonymous
Post 03/26/2015 17:07     Subject: Re:PARCC monitoring student's social media, wants schools to "punish" them
Anonymous wrote:

So you are giving academics a short schrift in favor of soft skills. Well, if you think DCPS has historically been doing a good job of teaching kids soft skills then you are sorely mistaken there as well! Witnessed a whole bunch of shoving, yelling and a fight on a city bus just this morning! SORELY mistaken.



You saw kids behaving badly on a city bus this morning, and this proves that the public schools are failing? Really?
Anonymous
Post 03/26/2015 17:03     Subject: Re:PARCC monitoring student's social media, wants schools to "punish" them
Witnessed a whole bunch of shoving, yelling and a fight on a city bus just this morning! SORELY mistaken.



Is this kind of behavior to be blamed on teachers? Like everything else, it's the fault of the teachers. I'll bet they teach them those moves in class.
Anonymous
Post 03/26/2015 17:01     Subject: Re:PARCC monitoring student's social media, wants schools to "punish" them
So you are giving academics a short schrift in favor of soft skills. Well, if you think DCPS has historically been doing a good job of teaching kids soft skills then you are sorely mistaken there as well! Witnessed a whole bunch of shoving, yelling and a fight on a city bus just this morning! SORELY mistaken.

In fact, one wonders if they do ANYTHING well. FAIL.



And if the students do not have these "soft skills", they can focus on academics?

How would you help these schools teach "soft skills"? Because the standards are not helping with that incredibly important job.