Anonymous wrote:Read Project 2025, republicans plan to cut all this no matter what democrats do. Republicans could easily open the government if they wanted to, much like they got the BBB passed. But they don't. Why not?

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Anonymous wrote:We have an obesity epidemic, especially among lower income. There isn’t food scarcity, there is food over abundance.

Healthy food is expensive. Unhealthy, preservative-laden foods are cheaper. Plus poor people often lack access to good grocery stores, along with often suffering from stress, lack of sleep, lack of access to healthcare and many other issues that contribute to poor health which can also lead to obesity.

Basic heathy food is not expensive, nor is it elusive. Next excuse?

The only way to become obese is to consume an excess of calories, continuously, over a long period of time. Hard to buy the narrative we have so many starving people that are 50+ lbs overweight

Your assignment for today - drive to inner city and walk to closest corner store. Buy $20 worth of healthy food.
Drive to rural area and find small market and buy $20 worth of healthy food. Report back.

DP. What’s your point?
Food costs less in suburban and rural areas, but the wages are also lower in rural areas and urban areas have higher wages and more opportunities.

The same laws of supply and demand apply either way. The stores sell what people will buy.
The problem is 100% cultural.
Healthy diets can be easily based on rice, beans, tortillas, potatoes. Add in some veggies. Eggs, chicken, and ground beef provide a lot of nutritional bang for the buck. Apples, carrots, and cabbage keep well and do not cost that much.
Again, 100% cultural that people buy bags of cookies and chips instead of real food.
Don’t know how to cook? Learn.

If you’d done the assignment, you find few of those products in the stores I mentioned. It’s a loss to a small store owner, who would have to pay to purchase and power refrigerator and freezers.
I can’t believe the ignorance shown on this thread. Refusing to go and find out for yourself. You scared of the inner city? Scared of rural hick America?

I’ve been many places.
But why on earth would I want to go to the inner city? I don’t need to go there. I believe you that fresh produce is harder to find there, but it is 100% because of supply and demand and culture. Also, even the processed crap at those corner stores is not cheap!

When I lived in Korea, it was hard to find American peanut butter, and when I did find it (usually alongside a small selection of American and British foods) it was expensive. This does not mean there was a vast conspiracy to make it difficult for me to buy peanut butter. It simply means it was not a popular product and therefore more expensive to sell. There is also no vast conspiracy to suppress low income people here by denying them vegetables.

I do a lot of shopping at Aldi, Walmart, and international groceries. I’ve noticed many different immigrants who probably don’t have much money and yet fill their baskets with vegetables and fruit and meat. Go to the international market and you’ll see. Unfortunately, many of them eventually adopt American diets and then they suffer.

Also, there is nothing wrong with frozen vegetables. Aldi literally has them for a dollar a bag. I am not poor anymore but I have been poor, and have relatives who subsist on very little money, but don’t eat processed garbage. Unless you are truly in the bottom 1% and living under a bridge I am sorry but no excuses.

At least in DC, just about every neighborhood as weekly farmers markets with fresh produce

Huh? And they're like a gazillion dollars. I have a HHI of $300k and I can't afford to buy produce at the DC farmers' markets.

the GOP would tell you you need to pull yourself up by your bootstraps because it isn't like they are doing anything to help make food more affordable.

These people live in lala land. They truly believe the only reason someone is poor is because they are lazy, stupid, and/or immoral, and that if they were poor, they'd have no problems and would soon not be poor because they're so smart and awesome. They refuse to see that poverty is a cycle, with lots of outside factors leading to what appear to be maladaptive choices FROM THE OUTSIDE, but that actually make plenty of sense when you understand their life and the choices available to them. You cannot fix systemic problems with bootstraps.

Why they are poor is irrelevant. Someone poor can boil a potato and scramble an egg, just the same as anyone else. Poor people all over the world cook food. The inability (or unwillingness) to cook and having the preference for processed foods is an American cultural problem- particularly with increased prevalence in lower income households.

Let's be honest though. It's a developed world problem. The US is just the most developed country. The same pattern is increasingly happening in other countries. The issue comes down to status. Cooking for yourself is often seen as low status.

And let's be even more honest. Processed food tastes good because it's loaded with salt, sugar and fats. It's easy and addicting. For some it's a simple luxury that makes them feel better in a world where the poor don't get many opportunities to do so. TV and the social media function in much the same way.

That also explains why recent immigrant families don't fall into the trap of convenience foods. They know they are sacrificing from the start.

That being said. There is no greater bang for the buck than a baked potato. Put some beans and cheese on it and it fulfills almost all our intake needs. It can even be made in a microwave. However it's very boring.

The issue is that people use food as an escape from the drudgery. A baked potato with a can of beans costs less than $2 and is enough calories/protein to sustain at least an entire day but eating that is depressing and reminds people how crappy their life is. That's the problem. If sacrifice doesn't produce results then why should someone sacrifice.

Anonymous wrote:Hakeem must reopen the government

Signed, a demócrat

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Anonymous wrote:Once SNAP ceases every vote on the CR that Democrats scuttle will be an overt act to hurt underprivileged, hungry children.

Remember. The GOP can pass the CR whenever it wants.

And since Trump ignores congressional appropriations why bother passing any bill?

I was unaware there were 60 Republican senators.

There are more than 50. The GOP can end the filibuster. It’s already neutered the House and the Constitution.

Or - - - Democrats could vote to not deprive hungry underprivileged Americans.

Democrats keep voting for a shutdown. That is a fact.

What votes have there been in the House in the past three weeks and when will the next vote happen in the House?

The house passed the CR. It’s in the hands of the Senate. Democrats are voting against opening the opening the government. Am I wrong?

Thune and the Republican Senate could pass this within the hour if they wanted to by killing the filibuster. They won't, though, because they are cowards. The Republicans know how bad this is and they won't take responsibility for it. When it proves to be the absolute disaster it is, they want to be able to cry that it was bipartisan.

Yellow-bellied, lily-livered, spineless cowards to a one.

This. Rs made this bed with Trump. If they want to pass a CR that ends in mid-November they can pass the CR without Dem votes.

In the meantime, Donny is busy with his top priority (the ballroom) and can’t be bothered to use the contingency fund to feed millions of Americans.

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Anonymous wrote:Once SNAP ceases every vote on the CR that Democrats scuttle will be an overt act to hurt underprivileged, hungry children.

Remember. The GOP can pass the CR whenever it wants.

And since Trump ignores congressional appropriations why bother passing any bill?

I was unaware there were 60 Republican senators.

There are more than 50. The GOP can end the filibuster. It’s already neutered the House and the Constitution.

Or - - - Democrats could vote to not deprive hungry underprivileged Americans.

Democrats keep voting for a shutdown. That is a fact.

What votes have there been in the House in the past three weeks and when will the next vote happen in the House?

The house passed the CR. It’s in the hands of the Senate. Democrats are voting against opening the opening the government. Am I wrong?

Thune and the Republican Senate could pass this within the hour if they wanted to by killing the filibuster. They won't, though, because they are cowards. The Republicans know how bad this is and they won't take responsibility for it. When it proves to be the absolute disaster it is, they want to be able to cry that it was bipartisan.

Yellow-bellied, lily-livered, spineless cowards to a one.

This.
And now the Republican are getting nervous. They’ve started bleating that Trump needs to come help get past the impasse.
But Trump of course fled town. Just like the House.

GOP: #governing /s!!

Anonymous wrote:Hakeem must reopen the government

Signed, a demócrat

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Anonymous wrote:Once SNAP ceases every vote on the CR that Democrats scuttle will be an overt act to hurt underprivileged, hungry children.

Remember. The GOP can pass the CR whenever it wants.

And since Trump ignores congressional appropriations why bother passing any bill?

I was unaware there were 60 Republican senators.

There are more than 50. The GOP can end the filibuster. It’s already neutered the House and the Constitution.

Or - - - Democrats could vote to not deprive hungry underprivileged Americans.

Democrats keep voting for a shutdown. That is a fact.

What votes have there been in the House in the past three weeks and when will the next vote happen in the House?

The house passed the CR. It’s in the hands of the Senate. Democrats are voting against opening the opening the government. Am I wrong?

Thune and the Republican Senate could pass this within the hour if they wanted to by killing the filibuster. They won't, though, because they are cowards. The Republicans know how bad this is and they won't take responsibility for it. When it proves to be the absolute disaster it is, they want to be able to cry that it was bipartisan.

Yellow-bellied, lily-livered, spineless cowards to a one.

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Anonymous wrote:Once SNAP ceases every vote on the CR that Democrats scuttle will be an overt act to hurt underprivileged, hungry children.

Remember. The GOP can pass the CR whenever it wants.

And since Trump ignores congressional appropriations why bother passing any bill?

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Anonymous wrote:Once SNAP ceases every vote on the CR that Democrats scuttle will be an overt act to hurt underprivileged, hungry children.

Remember. The GOP can pass the CR whenever it wants.

And since Trump ignores congressional appropriations why bother passing any bill?

I was unaware there were 60 Republican senators.

There are more than 50. The GOP can end the filibuster. It’s already neutered the House and the Constitution.

Or - - - Democrats could vote to not deprive hungry underprivileged Americans.

Democrats keep voting for a shutdown. That is a fact.

What votes have there been in the House in the past three weeks and when will the next vote happen in the House?

The house passed the CR. It’s in the hands of the Senate. Democrats are voting against opening the opening the government. Am I wrong?

The CR is not a budget. It's not a clean CR.

The Republicans have had all yesr to come up with an actual, passable budget bill. That's what the last CR was for.

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Anonymous wrote:Once SNAP ceases every vote on the CR that Democrats scuttle will be an overt act to hurt underprivileged, hungry children.

Remember. The GOP can pass the CR whenever it wants.

And since Trump ignores congressional appropriations why bother passing any bill?

I was unaware there were 60 Republican senators.

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Anonymous wrote:It's amazing how we are supposed to think the real problem with America is that we should all be happy with that baked potato, and not the billionaires buying a bigger private jet, that villa in the south of France, and yet another yacht to make it more convenient when they want to jet off to Greece or wherever - and that they are doing it on our backs. Again, most of America's poor are in fact working.

It's sick that we are the richest nation on the planet yet we don't have universal healthcare like other wealthy nations, and that we still have people eating poorly and that we still have homeless veterans.

Yep

If you make $60,000 a year, guess how much of your taxes goes toward SNAP? $36 a year. That's it. Meanwhile, how much of your taxes goes to corporate subsidies? $700. Poor people aren't the problem. Greedy billionaires and corporate handouts are the problem.

Ah, the mysterious "corporate subsidies". Love to know what these are. Please be specific.