Anonymous wrote:I have older teen boys and I agree with OP but with a caveat that they would not agree with the label of being more “left” than my generation. Fox and friends (and establishment Dems) have done their work of associating the “left” and “socialist” with negativity. But here is what they think:

- there are few differences between GOP and Dems
- politicians from both sides of aisle are tied to corporate money
- while they sympathize with the plight of Palestinians they would never speak out about the issue (or any other) on college campuses bc of the fear of doxxing and retribution. In other words, they clearly see their freedom to speak being squashed.
- they do not agree that so much federal funding should be spent on the military and do not agree with funding foreign wars
- they also do not agree with so much money being allocated to govt contractors and think the money would be more efficient if services provided by govt bc it cuts out the middle man (they see the 30-40 years since Reagan as proof that the idea that the private sector can always provide services better than then public sector silly since costs have only gone up for the individual without improvement of service)
- they see huge issues with both Dem and GOP policies on immigration/healthcare/housing).

They would support a candidate who wants to overhaul immigration (allow more legal, figured out how to stop the illegal), reform healthcare (single payer is fine with them compared to the current system) and help lower housing costs (through subsidizing, more building, etc)

They are not tied to a candidate from a certain party or who labels themselves as any one thing. They want a candidate who is willing to acknowledge and identify problems (even if those are problems from policies that the candidate’s own party supported) and have ideas (any ideas!) for how to solve them.

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Anonymous wrote:The people o this board live in their own sick bubble. You tell yourselves that there is a cultural shift to the left when in reality it’s a huge national shift to the right. Just look around you. Get out of you DC bubble.

+1

Great, we’ve done the math and there are two of you dumb enough to believe this.

Let me guess, you were confident that Kamala would win right?

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Anonymous wrote:Agreed. We’re going to have 100 Mamdanis. Lifelong GenX Dems like me need to see the writing on the wall. I really wanted a Whitmer, but now I’m all in on AOC.

That’s because I’m a progressive. I’m not afraid of change and really believe that a rising tide lifts all boats. There’s research showing that more generous people make money, and right now under MAGA the US is acting like a poor person cutting AIDS $$ and public broadcasting.

I’m ready to burn it all down so my college-aged kids and their friends might have a future they actually look forward to, instead of worrying about instantly and corruption.

I'm Gen X and my husband is a boomer. This is us!

my husband and I are gen X and I worry so much for my kids’ futures. Hard to understand how anyone can support Trump.

How could you not?

Harris would have let in another 10million illegals. Not removed the criminal illegals already here.

Look at the Issues CA is having paying for their healthcare and eduction. They are bankrupt and asking feds for billions while their citizens suffer.

Not to mention allowing antisemitism in college campuses! Forget about if the Jewish students there are pro Israel or anti Israel, they were being harassed, spit on, kept from attending class. And it was allowed until Trump came into office.


So yeah, country would be screwed if Harris won and Trump won by a landslide. You are in the minority.

are you joking?? there is not one positive thing that Trump is doing to help advance the economy of this country. That will help ensure good paying job jobs in a variety of industries .He’s undermining and destroying universities. Not every HS graduate needs to go to a university, but that should definitely be an option for those that choose it.

What about clean air? Clean water? A stable food supply. Accessing affordable healthcare. Affordable housing? You seriously think that Trump is thinking about any of that?? let alone cares.

Anyone that’s raising a child right now that is not independently wealthy should be terrified.

I call BS!!!!


You think what is going on at Universities is a good thing??????? My neighbor had a Jewish kid at Columbia that stayed home last year! Her daughter was afraid for her life. Protesters screaming, pushing her. All the Jewish hate! They did not care if she supported Israel or Not…. Sad thing is she had a family member o n the faculty and could not do a damn thing to protect her.

Ugh, always have to wrestle away the mantle of victimhood from tens of thousands of ACTUALLY murdered women and children by proclaiming your fear of something that happened to literally no one. Again, just ugh.

DP. This is exactly my problem with some of the various Jewish groups lamenting anti semitism in the US. It is such a fragile narcissistic view. ‘Oh DD might have to walk by some protestors on her 90k a year leafy college campus and feel uncomfortable just for wearing her Israel pin!’ Meanwhile totally ignoring the mass murder going on in their name. It is truly disturbing to watch.

Gaza declared war on Israel. Hamas is fully supported by Gazans. Gaza led.by Hamas continues to actively be at war with Israel. Zero Arab nations have offered Gazans any assistance at all. Iran finances Hamas. A.central part of the Hamas strategy is to put non combatants in harms way and blame Israel for the consequences to get support from dumb anti Semites. It seems to be working. For now.

Hasbara troll has entered the chat. Evil has arrived

And yet nary a fact in opposition, merely frustrated pouting.

NP, but the PP saying “Zero Arab nations have offered Gazans any assistance at all.” comes across as disingenuous.

That statement isn’t accurate. Several Arab nations have provided humanitarian aid to Gaza, both historically and during recent escalations.

Qatar, for example, has delivered hundreds of millions of dollars in direct assistance to Gaza, including fuel for electricity, salaries for civil servants, and cash aid for families—often coordinated through the UN and even with Israeli approval to prevent a full collapse of infrastructure.

Egypt regularly plays a critical role, especially through the Rafah crossing, providing medical evacuations, field hospitals, and supply corridors. The Egyptian Red Crescent has been actively involved in aid delivery.

Jordan has sent medical convoys and field hospitals, and the UAE and Saudi Arabia have both contributed aid via multilateral agencies like UNRWA and their own Red Crescent organizations.

It’s fair to criticize the complexities of Arab government politics and their relationships with Hamas, but saying “zero Arab nations” have helped Gazans is just factually wrong.

I wonder why they’re all sending aid instead of welcoming refugees

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Anonymous wrote:Agreed. We’re going to have 100 Mamdanis. Lifelong GenX Dems like me need to see the writing on the wall. I really wanted a Whitmer, but now I’m all in on AOC.

That’s because I’m a progressive. I’m not afraid of change and really believe that a rising tide lifts all boats. There’s research showing that more generous people make money, and right now under MAGA the US is acting like a poor person cutting AIDS $$ and public broadcasting.

I’m ready to burn it all down so my college-aged kids and their friends might have a future they actually look forward to, instead of worrying about instantly and corruption.

I'm Gen X and my husband is a boomer. This is us!

my husband and I are gen X and I worry so much for my kids’ futures. Hard to understand how anyone can support Trump.

How could you not?

Harris would have let in another 10million illegals. Not removed the criminal illegals already here.

Look at the Issues CA is having paying for their healthcare and eduction. They are bankrupt and asking feds for billions while their citizens suffer.

Not to mention allowing antisemitism in college campuses! Forget about if the Jewish students there are pro Israel or anti Israel, they were being harassed, spit on, kept from attending class. And it was allowed until Trump came into office.


So yeah, country would be screwed if Harris won and Trump won by a landslide. You are in the minority.

are you joking?? there is not one positive thing that Trump is doing to help advance the economy of this country. That will help ensure good paying job jobs in a variety of industries .He’s undermining and destroying universities. Not every HS graduate needs to go to a university, but that should definitely be an option for those that choose it.

What about clean air? Clean water? A stable food supply. Accessing affordable healthcare. Affordable housing? You seriously think that Trump is thinking about any of that?? let alone cares.

Anyone that’s raising a child right now that is not independently wealthy should be terrified.

I call BS!!!!


You think what is going on at Universities is a good thing??????? My neighbor had a Jewish kid at Columbia that stayed home last year! Her daughter was afraid for her life. Protesters screaming, pushing her. All the Jewish hate! They did not care if she supported Israel or Not…. Sad thing is she had a family member o n the faculty and could not do a damn thing to protect her.

Ugh, always have to wrestle away the mantle of victimhood from tens of thousands of ACTUALLY murdered women and children by proclaiming your fear of something that happened to literally no one. Again, just ugh.

DP. This is exactly my problem with some of the various Jewish groups lamenting anti semitism in the US. It is such a fragile narcissistic view. ‘Oh DD might have to walk by some protestors on her 90k a year leafy college campus and feel uncomfortable just for wearing her Israel pin!’ Meanwhile totally ignoring the mass murder going on in their name. It is truly disturbing to watch.

Gaza declared war on Israel. Hamas is fully supported by Gazans. Gaza led.by Hamas continues to actively be at war with Israel. Zero Arab nations have offered Gazans any assistance at all. Iran finances Hamas. A.central part of the Hamas strategy is to put non combatants in harms way and blame Israel for the consequences to get support from dumb anti Semites. It seems to be working. For now.

Hasbara troll has entered the chat. Evil has arrived

And yet nary a fact in opposition, merely frustrated pouting.

NP, but the PP saying “Zero Arab nations have offered Gazans any assistance at all.” comes across as disingenuous.

That statement isn’t accurate. Several Arab nations have provided humanitarian aid to Gaza, both historically and during recent escalations.

Qatar, for example, has delivered hundreds of millions of dollars in direct assistance to Gaza, including fuel for electricity, salaries for civil servants, and cash aid for families—often coordinated through the UN and even with Israeli approval to prevent a full collapse of infrastructure.

Egypt regularly plays a critical role, especially through the Rafah crossing, providing medical evacuations, field hospitals, and supply corridors. The Egyptian Red Crescent has been actively involved in aid delivery.

Jordan has sent medical convoys and field hospitals, and the UAE and Saudi Arabia have both contributed aid via multilateral agencies like UNRWA and their own Red Crescent organizations.

It’s fair to criticize the complexities of Arab government politics and their relationships with Hamas, but saying “zero Arab nations” have helped Gazans is just factually wrong.

I wonder why they’re all sending aid instead of welcoming refugees

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Anonymous wrote:Just my observations here. I am seeing a leftward cultural shift that rivals that of the Great Recession. This time is different, it is certainly not a "woke" culture (which has been resoundingly rejected) but profoundly anti-capitalist and anti-corporate. It has populist elements that also appeal to the New Right.

For reference, I am a millennial married to a Gen-Xer with Gen Z stepchildren. All of us are gainfully employed...for now.

What I am seeing isn't necessarily Marxist or socialist (although the Bernie Sanders/AOC left still takes this label) and it isn't obvious across the board. Americans are still divided within the working class such that there is still strong resentment of people "below" you getting something that they didn't "earn," and there is still a (very healthy, IMO) distrust in Big Government and dislike of taxes. However, I am seeing a distrust in American capitalism and especially, corporations, at an all-time high, or at least since 2008.

Young people especially HATE this economy. They hate graduating with debt (and yes, even trade schools incur debt) and not finding a job, because of AI, offshoring, or companies just wanting to extract as much profit as they can with as few resources as they can get away with. They hate private equity buying up homes... and hospitals! They hate AI-generated rejection letters (for job postings that require multiple resume formats and cover letters and essays and all these hoops), and "Ghost Jobs," and benefits disappearing, and job security being a joke even when they did "the right thing" by majoring in STEM, etc.

Silicon Valley is no longer seen as a center of innovation, but as a center for global control, market manipulation, and just plain evil (for example, the latest trend in billionaires genetically designing their own offspring). More and more are seeing tech companies not as innovators but as exploiters, especially since the tech jobs with comfortable salaries are disappearing. If you aren't up there with Musk or Thiel, you're one of the peasants to their feudal lordships.

The anti-corporate sentiment extends to the cultural Right, too. They hate how corporations get away with hiring illegal immigrants, or the 2010s trend of "woke" virtue signaling capitalism. They hate fake virtue-signaling marketing campaigns and forced diversity.

Save for a few podcast bros that still salivate over cryptocurrency, most Gen Zs are turning anti-capitalist, in a uniquely modern way. It's really interesting to see. We're all tired of being scammed, rug pulled, hoodwinked, whatever you want to call it when you are told all your life to work hard and do the right thing only to be screwed over to no fault of your own.

Tells us more about your experimentation with psychedelics, OP.

A healthy political party and the DNC are two things that have zero overlap on any Venn diagram right now. We can pretend that’s not true or not important, but it is true and it is very important.

Major political parties measure "health" by how many billions if dollars are raised each election cycle and by their metric, all is good.

Not completely true. A better indicator is voter registration shift. And by that measure the Dems are cooked.

Unfortunately, dollars are more important than votes to many of the leeches in our political system.

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Anonymous wrote:The people o this board live in their own sick bubble. You tell yourselves that there is a cultural shift to the left when in reality it’s a huge national shift to the right. Just look around you. Get out of you DC bubble.

+1

Great, we’ve done the math and there are two of you dumb enough to believe this.

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Anonymous wrote:Agreed. We’re going to have 100 Mamdanis. Lifelong GenX Dems like me need to see the writing on the wall. I really wanted a Whitmer, but now I’m all in on AOC.

That’s because I’m a progressive. I’m not afraid of change and really believe that a rising tide lifts all boats. There’s research showing that more generous people make money, and right now under MAGA the US is acting like a poor person cutting AIDS $$ and public broadcasting.

I’m ready to burn it all down so my college-aged kids and their friends might have a future they actually look forward to, instead of worrying about instantly and corruption.

I'm Gen X and my husband is a boomer. This is us!

my husband and I are gen X and I worry so much for my kids’ futures. Hard to understand how anyone can support Trump.

How could you not?

Harris would have let in another 10million illegals. Not removed the criminal illegals already here.

Look at the Issues CA is having paying for their healthcare and eduction. They are bankrupt and asking feds for billions while their citizens suffer.

Not to mention allowing antisemitism in college campuses! Forget about if the Jewish students there are pro Israel or anti Israel, they were being harassed, spit on, kept from attending class. And it was allowed until Trump came into office.


So yeah, country would be screwed if Harris won and Trump won by a landslide. You are in the minority.

are you joking?? there is not one positive thing that Trump is doing to help advance the economy of this country. That will help ensure good paying job jobs in a variety of industries .He’s undermining and destroying universities. Not every HS graduate needs to go to a university, but that should definitely be an option for those that choose it.

What about clean air? Clean water? A stable food supply. Accessing affordable healthcare. Affordable housing? You seriously think that Trump is thinking about any of that?? let alone cares.

Anyone that’s raising a child right now that is not independently wealthy should be terrified.

I call BS!!!!


You think what is going on at Universities is a good thing??????? My neighbor had a Jewish kid at Columbia that stayed home last year! Her daughter was afraid for her life. Protesters screaming, pushing her. All the Jewish hate! They did not care if she supported Israel or Not…. Sad thing is she had a family member o n the faculty and could not do a damn thing to protect her.

Ugh, always have to wrestle away the mantle of victimhood from tens of thousands of ACTUALLY murdered women and children by proclaiming your fear of something that happened to literally no one. Again, just ugh.

DP. This is exactly my problem with some of the various Jewish groups lamenting anti semitism in the US. It is such a fragile narcissistic view. ‘Oh DD might have to walk by some protestors on her 90k a year leafy college campus and feel uncomfortable just for wearing her Israel pin!’ Meanwhile totally ignoring the mass murder going on in their name. It is truly disturbing to watch.

Gaza declared war on Israel. Hamas is fully supported by Gazans. Gaza led.by Hamas continues to actively be at war with Israel. Zero Arab nations have offered Gazans any assistance at all. Iran finances Hamas. A.central part of the Hamas strategy is to put non combatants in harms way and blame Israel for the consequences to get support from dumb anti Semites. It seems to be working. For now.

Hasbara troll has entered the chat. Evil has arrived

And yet nary a fact in opposition, merely frustrated pouting.

NP, but the PP saying “Zero Arab nations have offered Gazans any assistance at all.” comes across as disingenuous.

That statement isn’t accurate. Several Arab nations have provided humanitarian aid to Gaza, both historically and during recent escalations.

Qatar, for example, has delivered hundreds of millions of dollars in direct assistance to Gaza, including fuel for electricity, salaries for civil servants, and cash aid for families—often coordinated through the UN and even with Israeli approval to prevent a full collapse of infrastructure.

Egypt regularly plays a critical role, especially through the Rafah crossing, providing medical evacuations, field hospitals, and supply corridors. The Egyptian Red Crescent has been actively involved in aid delivery.

Jordan has sent medical convoys and field hospitals, and the UAE and Saudi Arabia have both contributed aid via multilateral agencies like UNRWA and their own Red Crescent organizations.

It’s fair to criticize the complexities of Arab government politics and their relationships with Hamas, but saying “zero Arab nations” have helped Gazans is just factually wrong.

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Anonymous wrote:Just my observations here. I am seeing a leftward cultural shift that rivals that of the Great Recession. This time is different, it is certainly not a "woke" culture (which has been resoundingly rejected) but profoundly anti-capitalist and anti-corporate. It has populist elements that also appeal to the New Right.

For reference, I am a millennial married to a Gen-Xer with Gen Z stepchildren. All of us are gainfully employed...for now.

What I am seeing isn't necessarily Marxist or socialist (although the Bernie Sanders/AOC left still takes this label) and it isn't obvious across the board. Americans are still divided within the working class such that there is still strong resentment of people "below" you getting something that they didn't "earn," and there is still a (very healthy, IMO) distrust in Big Government and dislike of taxes. However, I am seeing a distrust in American capitalism and especially, corporations, at an all-time high, or at least since 2008.

Young people especially HATE this economy. They hate graduating with debt (and yes, even trade schools incur debt) and not finding a job, because of AI, offshoring, or companies just wanting to extract as much profit as they can with as few resources as they can get away with. They hate private equity buying up homes... and hospitals! They hate AI-generated rejection letters (for job postings that require multiple resume formats and cover letters and essays and all these hoops), and "Ghost Jobs," and benefits disappearing, and job security being a joke even when they did "the right thing" by majoring in STEM, etc.

Silicon Valley is no longer seen as a center of innovation, but as a center for global control, market manipulation, and just plain evil (for example, the latest trend in billionaires genetically designing their own offspring). More and more are seeing tech companies not as innovators but as exploiters, especially since the tech jobs with comfortable salaries are disappearing. If you aren't up there with Musk or Thiel, you're one of the peasants to their feudal lordships.

The anti-corporate sentiment extends to the cultural Right, too. They hate how corporations get away with hiring illegal immigrants, or the 2010s trend of "woke" virtue signaling capitalism. They hate fake virtue-signaling marketing campaigns and forced diversity.

Save for a few podcast bros that still salivate over cryptocurrency, most Gen Zs are turning anti-capitalist, in a uniquely modern way. It's really interesting to see. We're all tired of being scammed, rug pulled, hoodwinked, whatever you want to call it when you are told all your life to work hard and do the right thing only to be screwed over to no fault of your own.

Tells us more about your experimentation with psychedelics, OP.

A healthy political party and the DNC are two things that have zero overlap on any Venn diagram right now. We can pretend that’s not true or not important, but it is true and it is very important.

Major political parties measure "health" by how many billions if dollars are raised each election cycle and by their metric, all is good.

Not completely true. A better indicator is voter registration shift. And by that measure the Dems are cooked.

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Anonymous wrote:Agreed. We’re going to have 100 Mamdanis. Lifelong GenX Dems like me need to see the writing on the wall. I really wanted a Whitmer, but now I’m all in on AOC.

That’s because I’m a progressive. I’m not afraid of change and really believe that a rising tide lifts all boats. There’s research showing that more generous people make money, and right now under MAGA the US is acting like a poor person cutting AIDS $$ and public broadcasting.

I’m ready to burn it all down so my college-aged kids and their friends might have a future they actually look forward to, instead of worrying about instantly and corruption.

I'm Gen X and my husband is a boomer. This is us!

my husband and I are gen X and I worry so much for my kids’ futures. Hard to understand how anyone can support Trump.

How could you not?

Harris would have let in another 10million illegals. Not removed the criminal illegals already here.

Look at the Issues CA is having paying for their healthcare and eduction. They are bankrupt and asking feds for billions while their citizens suffer.

Not to mention allowing antisemitism in college campuses! Forget about if the Jewish students there are pro Israel or anti Israel, they were being harassed, spit on, kept from attending class. And it was allowed until Trump came into office.


So yeah, country would be screwed if Harris won and Trump won by a landslide. You are in the minority.

are you joking?? there is not one positive thing that Trump is doing to help advance the economy of this country. That will help ensure good paying job jobs in a variety of industries .He’s undermining and destroying universities. Not every HS graduate needs to go to a university, but that should definitely be an option for those that choose it.

What about clean air? Clean water? A stable food supply. Accessing affordable healthcare. Affordable housing? You seriously think that Trump is thinking about any of that?? let alone cares.

Anyone that’s raising a child right now that is not independently wealthy should be terrified.

I call BS!!!!


You think what is going on at Universities is a good thing??????? My neighbor had a Jewish kid at Columbia that stayed home last year! Her daughter was afraid for her life. Protesters screaming, pushing her. All the Jewish hate! They did not care if she supported Israel or Not…. Sad thing is she had a family member o n the faculty and could not do a damn thing to protect her.

Ugh, always have to wrestle away the mantle of victimhood from tens of thousands of ACTUALLY murdered women and children by proclaiming your fear of something that happened to literally no one. Again, just ugh.

DP. This is exactly my problem with some of the various Jewish groups lamenting anti semitism in the US. It is such a fragile narcissistic view. ‘Oh DD might have to walk by some protestors on her 90k a year leafy college campus and feel uncomfortable just for wearing her Israel pin!’ Meanwhile totally ignoring the mass murder going on in their name. It is truly disturbing to watch.

Gaza declared war on Israel. Hamas is fully supported by Gazans. Gaza led.by Hamas continues to actively be at war with Israel. Zero Arab nations have offered Gazans any assistance at all. Iran finances Hamas. A.central part of the Hamas strategy is to put non combatants in harms way and blame Israel for the consequences to get support from dumb anti Semites. It seems to be working. For now.

Hasbara troll has entered the chat. Evil has arrived

And yet nary a fact in opposition, merely frustrated pouting.

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Anonymous wrote:Just my observations here. I am seeing a leftward cultural shift that rivals that of the Great Recession. This time is different, it is certainly not a "woke" culture (which has been resoundingly rejected) but profoundly anti-capitalist and anti-corporate. It has populist elements that also appeal to the New Right.

For reference, I am a millennial married to a Gen-Xer with Gen Z stepchildren. All of us are gainfully employed...for now.

What I am seeing isn't necessarily Marxist or socialist (although the Bernie Sanders/AOC left still takes this label) and it isn't obvious across the board. Americans are still divided within the working class such that there is still strong resentment of people "below" you getting something that they didn't "earn," and there is still a (very healthy, IMO) distrust in Big Government and dislike of taxes. However, I am seeing a distrust in American capitalism and especially, corporations, at an all-time high, or at least since 2008.

Young people especially HATE this economy. They hate graduating with debt (and yes, even trade schools incur debt) and not finding a job, because of AI, offshoring, or companies just wanting to extract as much profit as they can with as few resources as they can get away with. They hate private equity buying up homes... and hospitals! They hate AI-generated rejection letters (for job postings that require multiple resume formats and cover letters and essays and all these hoops), and "Ghost Jobs," and benefits disappearing, and job security being a joke even when they did "the right thing" by majoring in STEM, etc.

Silicon Valley is no longer seen as a center of innovation, but as a center for global control, market manipulation, and just plain evil (for example, the latest trend in billionaires genetically designing their own offspring). More and more are seeing tech companies not as innovators but as exploiters, especially since the tech jobs with comfortable salaries are disappearing. If you aren't up there with Musk or Thiel, you're one of the peasants to their feudal lordships.

The anti-corporate sentiment extends to the cultural Right, too. They hate how corporations get away with hiring illegal immigrants, or the 2010s trend of "woke" virtue signaling capitalism. They hate fake virtue-signaling marketing campaigns and forced diversity.

Save for a few podcast bros that still salivate over cryptocurrency, most Gen Zs are turning anti-capitalist, in a uniquely modern way. It's really interesting to see. We're all tired of being scammed, rug pulled, hoodwinked, whatever you want to call it when you are told all your life to work hard and do the right thing only to be screwed over to no fault of your own.

Tells us more about your experimentation with psychedelics, OP.

A healthy political party and the DNC are two things that have zero overlap on any Venn diagram right now. We can pretend that’s not true or not important, but it is true and it is very important.

Major political parties measure "health" by how many billions if dollars are raised each election cycle and by their metric, all is good.

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Anonymous wrote:Just my observations here. I am seeing a leftward cultural shift that rivals that of the Great Recession. This time is different, it is certainly not a "woke" culture (which has been resoundingly rejected) but profoundly anti-capitalist and anti-corporate. It has populist elements that also appeal to the New Right.

For reference, I am a millennial married to a Gen-Xer with Gen Z stepchildren. All of us are gainfully employed...for now.

What I am seeing isn't necessarily Marxist or socialist (although the Bernie Sanders/AOC left still takes this label) and it isn't obvious across the board. Americans are still divided within the working class such that there is still strong resentment of people "below" you getting something that they didn't "earn," and there is still a (very healthy, IMO) distrust in Big Government and dislike of taxes. However, I am seeing a distrust in American capitalism and especially, corporations, at an all-time high, or at least since 2008.

Young people especially HATE this economy. They hate graduating with debt (and yes, even trade schools incur debt) and not finding a job, because of AI, offshoring, or companies just wanting to extract as much profit as they can with as few resources as they can get away with. They hate private equity buying up homes... and hospitals! They hate AI-generated rejection letters (for job postings that require multiple resume formats and cover letters and essays and all these hoops), and "Ghost Jobs," and benefits disappearing, and job security being a joke even when they did "the right thing" by majoring in STEM, etc.

Silicon Valley is no longer seen as a center of innovation, but as a center for global control, market manipulation, and just plain evil (for example, the latest trend in billionaires genetically designing their own offspring). More and more are seeing tech companies not as innovators but as exploiters, especially since the tech jobs with comfortable salaries are disappearing. If you aren't up there with Musk or Thiel, you're one of the peasants to their feudal lordships.

The anti-corporate sentiment extends to the cultural Right, too. They hate how corporations get away with hiring illegal immigrants, or the 2010s trend of "woke" virtue signaling capitalism. They hate fake virtue-signaling marketing campaigns and forced diversity.

Save for a few podcast bros that still salivate over cryptocurrency, most Gen Zs are turning anti-capitalist, in a uniquely modern way. It's really interesting to see. We're all tired of being scammed, rug pulled, hoodwinked, whatever you want to call it when you are told all your life to work hard and do the right thing only to be screwed over to no fault of your own.

Tells us more about your experimentation with psychedelics, OP.

A healthy political party and the DNC are two things that have zero overlap on any Venn diagram right now. We can pretend that’s not true or not important, but it is true and it is very important.

Major political parties measure "health" by how many billions if dollars are raised each election cycle and by their metric, all is good.

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Anonymous wrote:Agreed. We’re going to have 100 Mamdanis. Lifelong GenX Dems like me need to see the writing on the wall. I really wanted a Whitmer, but now I’m all in on AOC.

That’s because I’m a progressive. I’m not afraid of change and really believe that a rising tide lifts all boats. There’s research showing that more generous people make money, and right now under MAGA the US is acting like a poor person cutting AIDS $$ and public broadcasting.

I’m ready to burn it all down so my college-aged kids and their friends might have a future they actually look forward to, instead of worrying about instantly and corruption.

I'm Gen X and my husband is a boomer. This is us!

my husband and I are gen X and I worry so much for my kids’ futures. Hard to understand how anyone can support Trump.

How could you not?

Harris would have let in another 10million illegals. Not removed the criminal illegals already here.

Look at the Issues CA is having paying for their healthcare and eduction. They are bankrupt and asking feds for billions while their citizens suffer.

Not to mention allowing antisemitism in college campuses! Forget about if the Jewish students there are pro Israel or anti Israel, they were being harassed, spit on, kept from attending class. And it was allowed until Trump came into office.


So yeah, country would be screwed if Harris won and Trump won by a landslide. You are in the minority.

are you joking?? there is not one positive thing that Trump is doing to help advance the economy of this country. That will help ensure good paying job jobs in a variety of industries .He’s undermining and destroying universities. Not every HS graduate needs to go to a university, but that should definitely be an option for those that choose it.

What about clean air? Clean water? A stable food supply. Accessing affordable healthcare. Affordable housing? You seriously think that Trump is thinking about any of that?? let alone cares.

Anyone that’s raising a child right now that is not independently wealthy should be terrified.

I call BS!!!!


You think what is going on at Universities is a good thing??????? My neighbor had a Jewish kid at Columbia that stayed home last year! Her daughter was afraid for her life. Protesters screaming, pushing her. All the Jewish hate! They did not care if she supported Israel or Not…. Sad thing is she had a family member o n the faculty and could not do a damn thing to protect her.

Ugh, always have to wrestle away the mantle of victimhood from tens of thousands of ACTUALLY murdered women and children by proclaiming your fear of something that happened to literally no one. Again, just ugh.

DP. This is exactly my problem with some of the various Jewish groups lamenting anti semitism in the US. It is such a fragile narcissistic view. ‘Oh DD might have to walk by some protestors on her 90k a year leafy college campus and feel uncomfortable just for wearing her Israel pin!’ Meanwhile totally ignoring the mass murder going on in their name. It is truly disturbing to watch.

Gaza declared war on Israel. Hamas is fully supported by Gazans. Gaza led.by Hamas continues to actively be at war with Israel. Zero Arab nations have offered Gazans any assistance at all. Iran finances Hamas. A.central part of the Hamas strategy is to put non combatants in harms way and blame Israel for the consequences to get support from dumb anti Semites. It seems to be working. For now.

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Anonymous wrote:Agreed. We’re going to have 100 Mamdanis. Lifelong GenX Dems like me need to see the writing on the wall. I really wanted a Whitmer, but now I’m all in on AOC.

That’s because I’m a progressive. I’m not afraid of change and really believe that a rising tide lifts all boats. There’s research showing that more generous people make money, and right now under MAGA the US is acting like a poor person cutting AIDS $$ and public broadcasting.

I’m ready to burn it all down so my college-aged kids and their friends might have a future they actually look forward to, instead of worrying about instantly and corruption.

I'm Gen X and my husband is a boomer. This is us!

my husband and I are gen X and I worry so much for my kids’ futures. Hard to understand how anyone can support Trump.

How could you not?

Harris would have let in another 10million illegals. Not removed the criminal illegals already here.

Look at the Issues CA is having paying for their healthcare and eduction. They are bankrupt and asking feds for billions while their citizens suffer.

Not to mention allowing antisemitism in college campuses! Forget about if the Jewish students there are pro Israel or anti Israel, they were being harassed, spit on, kept from attending class. And it was allowed until Trump came into office.


So yeah, country would be screwed if Harris won and Trump won by a landslide. You are in the minority.

are you joking?? there is not one positive thing that Trump is doing to help advance the economy of this country. That will help ensure good paying job jobs in a variety of industries .He’s undermining and destroying universities. Not every HS graduate needs to go to a university, but that should definitely be an option for those that choose it.

What about clean air? Clean water? A stable food supply. Accessing affordable healthcare. Affordable housing? You seriously think that Trump is thinking about any of that?? let alone cares.

Anyone that’s raising a child right now that is not independently wealthy should be terrified.

I call BS!!!!


You think what is going on at Universities is a good thing??????? My neighbor had a Jewish kid at Columbia that stayed home last year! Her daughter was afraid for her life. Protesters screaming, pushing her. All the Jewish hate! They did not care if she supported Israel or Not…. Sad thing is she had a family member o n the faculty and could not do a damn thing to protect her.

Ugh, always have to wrestle away the mantle of victimhood from tens of thousands of ACTUALLY murdered women and children by proclaiming your fear of something that happened to literally no one. Again, just ugh.

DP. This is exactly my problem with some of the various Jewish groups lamenting anti semitism in the US. It is such a fragile narcissistic view. ‘Oh DD might have to walk by some protestors on her 90k a year leafy college campus and feel uncomfortable just for wearing her Israel pin!’ Meanwhile totally ignoring the mass murder going on in their name. It is truly disturbing to watch.

Gaza declared war on Israel. Hamas is fully supported by Gazans. Gaza led.by Hamas continues to actively be at war with Israel. Zero Arab nations have offered Gazans any assistance at all. Iran finances Hamas. A.central part of the Hamas strategy is to put non combatants in harms way and blame Israel for the consequences to get support from dumb anti Semites. It seems to be working. For now.

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Name-calling instead of trying to dispute obvious facts? Sad and pathetic.