Anonymous wrote:For those of you who continue to claim this man was MS-13 based upon a PG county detective's interview sheet and a "confidential informant" from New York where he'd never been, note the officer who did the interview and upon whose claims this was all based was indicted weeks after the interview for disclosing secret information in exchange for sex.

Here is the PG County Press release.

https://pgpolice.blogspot.com/2020/06/grand-jury-indicts-suspended-officer.html

Still want to rely upon that guy as your witness?

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Anonymous wrote:For those of you who continue to claim this man was MS-13 based upon a PG county detective's interview sheet and a "confidential informant" from New York where he'd never been, note the officer who did the interview and upon whose claims this was all based was indicted weeks after the interview for disclosing secret information in exchange for sex.

Here is the PG County Press release.

https://pgpolice.blogspot.com/2020/06/grand-jury-indicts-suspended-officer.html

Still want to rely upon that guy as your witness?

Yes. The judge deemed the informant trustworthy in this case as did the appeals board. What happened later doesn’t discount this case.

This wasn’t a trial. You don’t have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that someone was in a gang. He was deportable anyway because he entered illegally and didn’t claim amnesty for years - not until he was picked up in 2019.

Garcia didn’t even pushback at the time on the allegation.

It was illegal for the Trump administration to deport him to El Salvador. If they will do it to him, they will do it to others. They dgaf whose lives they destroy. And neither do you until it is your family that is impacted. This is a test case for them to deport whoever they don't like. They've even said they want to deport us citizens to this place and no they are not joking.

Governments aren’t perfect and mistakes happen. That’s the reality. Garcia had a removal order, that was not rescinded. He is not eligible to remain in the US regardless.

And no, they aren’t “coming after” citizens, how absolutely ridiculous.

Hardly ridiculous as trump as already said he is looking into sending US citizens to El Salvador.

Calling a dog's tail a leg doesn't make it a 5 legged dog..

Calling someone with a penis a Woman apparently does make is so though, right?

Anonymous wrote:And no, they aren’t “coming after” citizens, how absolutely ridiculous.

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Anonymous wrote:For those of you who continue to claim this man was MS-13 based upon a PG county detective's interview sheet and a "confidential informant" from New York where he'd never been, note the officer who did the interview and upon whose claims this was all based was indicted weeks after the interview for disclosing secret information in exchange for sex.

Here is the PG County Press release.

https://pgpolice.blogspot.com/2020/06/grand-jury-indicts-suspended-officer.html

Still want to rely upon that guy as your witness?

Yes. The judge deemed the informant trustworthy in this case as did the appeals board. What happened later doesn’t discount this case.

This wasn’t a trial. You don’t have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that someone was in a gang. He was deportable anyway because he entered illegally and didn’t claim amnesty for years - not until he was picked up in 2019.

Garcia didn’t even pushback at the time on the allegation.

It was illegal for the Trump administration to deport him to El Salvador. If they will do it to him, they will do it to others. They dgaf whose lives they destroy. And neither do you until it is your family that is impacted. This is a test case for them to deport whoever they don't like. They've even said they want to deport us citizens to this place and no they are not joking.

Governments aren’t perfect and mistakes happen. That’s the reality. Garcia had a removal order, that was not rescinded. He is not eligible to remain in the US regardless.

And no, they aren’t “coming after” citizens, how absolutely ridiculous.

Hardly ridiculous as trump as already said he is looking into sending US citizens to El Salvador.

Calling a dog's tail a leg doesn't make it a 5 legged dog..

Calling someone with a penis a Woman apparently does make is so though, right?

Vasquez Sura gave an exclusive statement to Newsweek responding to the Department of Homeland Security's (DHS) release of court filings alleging domestic violence. Her statement comes after the DHS posted documents from 2021 indicating that she filed for a protective order claiming her husband punched and scratched her, ripped her shirt and left her bruised. The temporary restraining order barred him from contacting her and directed him not to harass or abuse her, according to the court filings​.

"After surviving domestic violence in a previous relationship, I acted out of caution after a disagreement with Kilmar by seeking a civil protective order in case things escalated," she said. "Things did not escalate, and I decided not to follow through with the civil court process. We were able to work through this situation privately as a family, including by going to counseling.

"Our marriage only grew stronger in the years that followed. No one is perfect, and no marriage is perfect. That is not a justification for ICE's action of abducting him and deporting him to a country where he was supposed to be protected from deportation. Kilmar has always been a loving partner and father, and I will continue to stand by him and demand justice for him."

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Anonymous wrote:What Judge Xinis is banking on is that the government does not want to spend two weeks in discovery. Two big things can happen:

(1) They just make the call and get him back

(2) They spend two weeks creating a public record of their own screw-ups and then get sanctioned and then hope he is still alive and get him back.

God forbid he gets killed in prison, the backlash will be tremendous. It is already brewing.

Not really. With all due respect, she has to tread very carefully so as not to violate separation of powers. The Supreme Court has already admonished the district court (albeit politely). If the district court does it again through pursuing discovery to compel executive actions, that will not be a good look. This entire situation turns on the word "facilitate"

Perhaps the contract with El Salvador allows the US to ask for the return of someone improperly deported there. Even if it does, that may be of little use if the El Salvador government determines that such return would violate itsn own laws

She is allowing discovery to determine what was done to facilitate his return. Failing to answer that as the administration (and you) have done is not a good look, as you say.

She's free to do that, within the bounds of separation of powers.

There is no separation of powers issue in asking information about whether the government is complying with the order. SCOTUS itself told the government to provide that information. Stop being stupid.

Again, she can order discovery, but if the goal is to impose contempt if the US Government doesn't exercise its Article II powers, that's a problem.

Serious question. If the President of El Salvador has refused to release him, what more can the judge order that doesn't violate separation of powers? Perhaps discovery may reveal that the US has a contractual right to ask for his return. But the El Salvador Government has already said no. One of the reasons given by the El Salvador Government is that the man is a member of MS-13, which has been deemed a foreign terrorist organization by the US. Is the judge going to order the President of the US to lift that declaration for him?

You don’t seem to understand the basic concept that you are using to argue your BS point. Even the executive branch needs to follow the law. Why do you think this is not the case?

They did not follow the law. The issue at this point is how to fix it? Courts cannot order the President's foreign policy.
Right now, DOJ is focused on protecting the President's authority rather than fixing this guy's incorrect deportation.
So far it has been assumed that the government is paying El Salvador for his imprisonment, but this might not be the case. The payments are for Venezuelans.

Van Hollen says that he asked the VP of El Salvador why his government continues to hold Abrego Garcia even though he’s not charged with any crime and there’s no evidence that he’s MS-13.

“His answer was that the Trump administration is paying the government of El Salvador to keep him at CECOT”

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Anonymous wrote:For those of you who continue to claim this man was MS-13 based upon a PG county detective's interview sheet and a "confidential informant" from New York where he'd never been, note the officer who did the interview and upon whose claims this was all based was indicted weeks after the interview for disclosing secret information in exchange for sex.

Here is the PG County Press release.

https://pgpolice.blogspot.com/2020/06/grand-jury-indicts-suspended-officer.html

Still want to rely upon that guy as your witness?

Yes. The judge deemed the informant trustworthy in this case as did the appeals board. What happened later doesn’t discount this case.

This wasn’t a trial. You don’t have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that someone was in a gang. He was deportable anyway because he entered illegally and didn’t claim amnesty for years - not until he was picked up in 2019.

Garcia didn’t even pushback at the time on the allegation.

It was illegal for the Trump administration to deport him to El Salvador. If they will do it to him, they will do it to others. They dgaf whose lives they destroy. And neither do you until it is your family that is impacted. This is a test case for them to deport whoever they don't like. They've even said they want to deport us citizens to this place and no they are not joking.

Governments aren’t perfect and mistakes happen. That’s the reality. Garcia had a removal order, that was not rescinded. He is not eligible to remain in the US regardless.

And no, they aren’t “coming after” citizens, how absolutely ridiculous.

Really?

Two Massachusetts immigration attorneys, bith US citizens, received letters from DHS telling them to "self-deport".

https://truthout.org/articles/dhs-tells-2-massachusetts-immigration-lawyers-both-citizens-to-self-deport/

Ignore the fact that their clients put down the Lawyers email address as their own.....

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Anonymous wrote:For those of you who continue to claim this man was MS-13 based upon a PG county detective's interview sheet and a "confidential informant" from New York where he'd never been, note the officer who did the interview and upon whose claims this was all based was indicted weeks after the interview for disclosing secret information in exchange for sex.

Here is the PG County Press release.

https://pgpolice.blogspot.com/2020/06/grand-jury-indicts-suspended-officer.html

Still want to rely upon that guy as your witness?

Yes. The judge deemed the informant trustworthy in this case as did the appeals board. What happened later doesn’t discount this case.

This wasn’t a trial. You don’t have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that someone was in a gang. He was deportable anyway because he entered illegally and didn’t claim amnesty for years - not until he was picked up in 2019.

Garcia didn’t even pushback at the time on the allegation.

It was illegal for the Trump administration to deport him to El Salvador. If they will do it to him, they will do it to others. They dgaf whose lives they destroy. And neither do you until it is your family that is impacted. This is a test case for them to deport whoever they don't like. They've even said they want to deport us citizens to this place and no they are not joking.

Governments aren’t perfect and mistakes happen. That’s the reality. Garcia had a removal order, that was not rescinded. He is not eligible to remain in the US regardless.

And no, they aren’t “coming after” citizens, how absolutely ridiculous.

Really?

Two Massachusetts immigration attorneys, bith US citizens, received letters from DHS telling them to "self-deport".

https://truthout.org/articles/dhs-tells-2-massachusetts-immigration-lawyers-both-citizens-to-self-deport/

Ignore the fact that their clients put down the Lawyers email address as their own.....

Ignore the fact that Trump's Government acts with abandon with complete disregard for the law and the constitution and fails to do the most basic fact finding. Competence of a drunken 3 year old.

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Anonymous wrote:For those of you who continue to claim this man was MS-13 based upon a PG county detective's interview sheet and a "confidential informant" from New York where he'd never been, note the officer who did the interview and upon whose claims this was all based was indicted weeks after the interview for disclosing secret information in exchange for sex.

Here is the PG County Press release.

https://pgpolice.blogspot.com/2020/06/grand-jury-indicts-suspended-officer.html

Still want to rely upon that guy as your witness?

Yes. The judge deemed the informant trustworthy in this case as did the appeals board. What happened later doesn’t discount this case.

This wasn’t a trial. You don’t have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that someone was in a gang. He was deportable anyway because he entered illegally and didn’t claim amnesty for years - not until he was picked up in 2019.

Garcia didn’t even pushback at the time on the allegation.

It was illegal for the Trump administration to deport him to El Salvador. If they will do it to him, they will do it to others. They dgaf whose lives they destroy. And neither do you until it is your family that is impacted. This is a test case for them to deport whoever they don't like. They've even said they want to deport us citizens to this place and no they are not joking.

Governments aren’t perfect and mistakes happen. That’s the reality. Garcia had a removal order, that was not rescinded. He is not eligible to remain in the US regardless.

And no, they aren’t “coming after” citizens, how absolutely ridiculous.

Really?

Two Massachusetts immigration attorneys, bith US citizens, received letters from DHS telling them to "self-deport".

https://truthout.org/articles/dhs-tells-2-massachusetts-immigration-lawyers-both-citizens-to-self-deport/

Ignore the fact that their clients put down the Lawyers email address as their own.....

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Anonymous wrote:For those of you who continue to claim this man was MS-13 based upon a PG county detective's interview sheet and a "confidential informant" from New York where he'd never been, note the officer who did the interview and upon whose claims this was all based was indicted weeks after the interview for disclosing secret information in exchange for sex.

Here is the PG County Press release.

https://pgpolice.blogspot.com/2020/06/grand-jury-indicts-suspended-officer.html

Still want to rely upon that guy as your witness?

Yes. The judge deemed the informant trustworthy in this case as did the appeals board. What happened later doesn’t discount this case.

This wasn’t a trial. You don’t have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that someone was in a gang. He was deportable anyway because he entered illegally and didn’t claim amnesty for years - not until he was picked up in 2019.

Garcia didn’t even pushback at the time on the allegation.

It was illegal for the Trump administration to deport him to El Salvador. If they will do it to him, they will do it to others. They dgaf whose lives they destroy. And neither do you until it is your family that is impacted. This is a test case for them to deport whoever they don't like. They've even said they want to deport us citizens to this place and no they are not joking.

Governments aren’t perfect and mistakes happen. That’s the reality. Garcia had a removal order, that was not rescinded. He is not eligible to remain in the US regardless.

And no, they aren’t “coming after” citizens, how absolutely ridiculous.

Really?

Two Massachusetts immigration attorneys, bith US citizens, received letters from DHS telling them to "self-deport".

https://truthout.org/articles/dhs-tells-2-massachusetts-immigration-lawyers-both-citizens-to-self-deport/

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Anonymous wrote:For those of you who continue to claim this man was MS-13 based upon a PG county detective's interview sheet and a "confidential informant" from New York where he'd never been, note the officer who did the interview and upon whose claims this was all based was indicted weeks after the interview for disclosing secret information in exchange for sex.

Here is the PG County Press release.

https://pgpolice.blogspot.com/2020/06/grand-jury-indicts-suspended-officer.html

Still want to rely upon that guy as your witness?

Yes. The judge deemed the informant trustworthy in this case as did the appeals board. What happened later doesn’t discount this case.

This wasn’t a trial. You don’t have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that someone was in a gang. He was deportable anyway because he entered illegally and didn’t claim amnesty for years - not until he was picked up in 2019.

Garcia didn’t even pushback at the time on the allegation.

It was illegal for the Trump administration to deport him to El Salvador. If they will do it to him, they will do it to others. They dgaf whose lives they destroy. And neither do you until it is your family that is impacted. This is a test case for them to deport whoever they don't like. They've even said they want to deport us citizens to this place and no they are not joking.

Governments aren’t perfect and mistakes happen. That’s the reality. Garcia had a removal order, that was not rescinded. He is not eligible to remain in the US regardless.

And no, they aren’t “coming after” citizens, how absolutely ridiculous.

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Anonymous wrote:For those of you who continue to claim this man was MS-13 based upon a PG county detective's interview sheet and a "confidential informant" from New York where he'd never been, note the officer who did the interview and upon whose claims this was all based was indicted weeks after the interview for disclosing secret information in exchange for sex.

Here is the PG County Press release.

https://pgpolice.blogspot.com/2020/06/grand-jury-indicts-suspended-officer.html

Still want to rely upon that guy as your witness?

Yes. The judge deemed the informant trustworthy in this case as did the appeals board. What happened later doesn’t discount this case.

This wasn’t a trial. You don’t have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that someone was in a gang. He was deportable anyway because he entered illegally and didn’t claim amnesty for years - not until he was picked up in 2019.

Garcia didn’t even pushback at the time on the allegation.

It was illegal for the Trump administration to deport him to El Salvador. If they will do it to him, they will do it to others. They dgaf whose lives they destroy. And neither do you until it is your family that is impacted. This is a test case for them to deport whoever they don't like. They've even said they want to deport us citizens to this place and no they are not joking.

Governments aren’t perfect and mistakes happen. That’s the reality. Garcia had a removal order, that was not rescinded. He is not eligible to remain in the US regardless.

And no, they aren’t “coming after” citizens, how absolutely ridiculous.

Hardly ridiculous as trump as already said he is looking into sending US citizens to El Salvador.

Calling a dog's tail a leg doesn't make it a 5 legged dog..

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Anonymous wrote:For those of you who continue to claim this man was MS-13 based upon a PG county detective's interview sheet and a "confidential informant" from New York where he'd never been, note the officer who did the interview and upon whose claims this was all based was indicted weeks after the interview for disclosing secret information in exchange for sex.

Here is the PG County Press release.

https://pgpolice.blogspot.com/2020/06/grand-jury-indicts-suspended-officer.html

Still want to rely upon that guy as your witness?

Yes. The judge deemed the informant trustworthy in this case as did the appeals board. What happened later doesn’t discount this case.

This wasn’t a trial. You don’t have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that someone was in a gang. He was deportable anyway because he entered illegally and didn’t claim amnesty for years - not until he was picked up in 2019.

Garcia didn’t even pushback at the time on the allegation.

It was illegal for the Trump administration to deport him to El Salvador. If they will do it to him, they will do it to others. They dgaf whose lives they destroy. And neither do you until it is your family that is impacted. This is a test case for them to deport whoever they don't like. They've even said they want to deport us citizens to this place and no they are not joking.

Governments aren’t perfect and mistakes happen. That’s the reality. Garcia had a removal order, that was not rescinded. He is not eligible to remain in the US regardless.

And no, they aren’t “coming after” citizens, how absolutely ridiculous.