Anonymous
Post 12/20/2024 06:24     Subject: Yet another GOP shutdown?
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Anonymous wrote:Most Americans will remember this one as the Biden/Harris shutdown since they are the President and Vice President.

It's on them.


Wrong. It's well known that there was a deal in place and that Musk killed it. Keep dreaming, it ain't happening.


Well, Dems have the WH and the Senate so they are in control and they have the power until January 20 so Dems own this one thanks to Biden.



Ha ha. No.
Anonymous
Post 12/20/2024 05:39     Subject: Yet another GOP shutdown?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Most Americans will remember this one as the Biden/Harris shutdown since they are the President and Vice President.

It's on them.


Wrong. It's well known that there was a deal in place and that Musk killed it. Keep dreaming, it ain't happening.


Well, Dems have the WH and the Senate so they are in control and they have the power until January 20 so Dems own this one thanks to Biden.


Except funding bills originate in the House where Republicans have the majority. Too bad they are too worried about themselves to do the job they were elected to do.

And let’s shine light on the fact that this is at least the second major bill that they’ve blown up in bending to the will of someone not in office. Further proving that they have no respect for their oath of office, the constitution, or the American people. And further highlighting how weak they are and have no clue how to govern and that their word/agreements are worthless.

If Johnson could effectively handle the representatives of his own party (the way Pelosi could) he'd be able to pass a bill with only Republican support. While that might not fly with the Senate, it would at least have given him some leverage in negotiation. Instead he needed to bring in Democrats just to get something on the House floor. Which is not necessarily a bad thing - at least, it wasn't until Elon got involved.
Anonymous
Post 12/20/2024 03:49     Subject: Yet another GOP shutdown?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Most Americans will remember this one as the Biden/Harris shutdown since they are the President and Vice President.

It's on them.


Wrong. It's well known that there was a deal in place and that Musk killed it. Keep dreaming, it ain't happening.


Well, Dems have the WH and the Senate so they are in control and they have the power until January 20 so Dems own this one thanks to Biden.


Except funding bills originate in the House where Republicans have the majority. Too bad they are too worried about themselves to do the job they were elected to do.

And let’s shine light on the fact that this is at least the second major bill that they’ve blown up in bending to the will of someone not in office. Further proving that they have no respect for their oath of office, the constitution, or the American people. And further highlighting how weak they are and have no clue how to govern and that their word/agreements are worthless.
Anonymous
Post 12/20/2024 02:40     Subject: Yet another GOP shutdown?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Most Americans will remember this one as the Biden/Harris shutdown since they are the President and Vice President.

It's on them.


Wrong. It's well known that there was a deal in place and that Musk killed it. Keep dreaming, it ain't happening.


Well, Dems have the WH and the Senate so they are in control and they have the power until January 20 so Dems own this one thanks to Biden.
Anonymous
Post 12/20/2024 01:51     Subject: Yet another GOP shutdown?
Anonymous wrote:Most Americans will remember this one as the Biden/Harris shutdown since they are the President and Vice President.

It's on them.


Wrong. It's well known that there was a deal in place and that Musk killed it. Keep dreaming, it ain't happening.
Anonymous
Post 12/20/2024 01:07     Subject: Yet another GOP shutdown?
Most Americans will remember this one as the Biden/Harris shutdown since they are the President and Vice President.

It's on them.
Anonymous
Post 12/20/2024 00:57     Subject: Yet another GOP shutdown?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think Trump/Musk are right but the timing and execution are terrible. It's going to be a rough 4 years.


I see a lot of this sentiment on Twitter. Right about what?


Right about calling cancer research "wasteful Dem pork" as if no Republican ever gets cancer? That's the excuse they made for attacking the bipartisan bill that Johnson made a deal with the Democrats on.

Right about trying to protect certain specific China deals that Musk is heavily invested in?
Right about trying to protecting greedy vultures like United Health?
That's what was in the supposedly "clean" CR that Trump wanted that got defeated tonight.
Anonymous
Post 12/20/2024 00:46     Subject: Re:Yet another GOP shutdown?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Well stated, Chip Roy. And I'm a conservative republican.



Good one, have to agree. And I am a democrat.


110 billion unpaid for is peanuts compared to the trillions in tax cuts. Ditch those massive tax cuts and you'll start making some real progress. P.S., trickle-down is a lie.
Anonymous
Post 12/20/2024 00:43     Subject: Re:Yet another GOP shutdown?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Who cuts childhood cancer research?

To put it in perspective, for Elon Musk, $250 million is the equivalent of $26.21 for someone who makes $50k a year in salary.


To put it in perspective, the top ten percent of tax payers pay 73.7% of the total taxes collected, yet they still get just one vote. So stop whining.

https://taxfoundation.org/data/all/federal/summary-latest-federal-income-tax-data-2023-update/


They get a lot more than one vote because these days money votes. https://www.citizen.org/news/study-one-fourth-of-maxed-out-campaign-contributions-come-from-the-richest-1-of-zip-codes

Also stop whining about them paying 73% of the taxes because they also own that much of America's wealth. The wealthy are by no means being overtaxed.
Anonymous
Post 12/20/2024 00:23     Subject: Re:Yet another GOP shutdown?
GOP: party of losers

What an unbelievable and shameful pathetic display.

One simple job. Appropriation. And here the GOP is, scraping and bowing

No ideas. No values. No spine.

Less than 24 hours.
Anonymous
Post 12/19/2024 23:43     Subject: Re:Yet another GOP shutdown?
Anonymous wrote:Well stated, Chip Roy. And I'm a conservative republican.



Good one, have to agree. And I am a democrat.
Anonymous
Post 12/19/2024 23:37     Subject: Yet another GOP shutdown?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is 100% on the GOP. There was an agreement and they blew it up. They need to vote on the original agreement. What a sh*tshow.


Why do they need to vote on the original agreement? Its toast.

The original agreement was 1500+ pages of wish list goodies and a pay raise.
We need to stop the whole debt ceiling nonsense and at least make an attempt to live within our means.
They want to go home for the holidays, they will come up with something.


So you want to lift the debt ceiling when the whole campaign was predicated on cutting spending. If spending cuts are coming day 1, then there is no reason to eliminate the debt ceiling. This basically tells me the GOP is not serious about cutting spending at all.


The need money to deport illegals and build the wall


Tax cuts. Everything is about that one big tax cut bill he can pass under reconciliation. He promised trillions of increased deficit spending and they need as much wiggle room as they can get.
Anonymous
Post 12/19/2024 23:28     Subject: Yet another GOP shutdown?
Anonymous wrote:Honestly who cares. Essential workers still need to work despite the people at the margins calling out sick. People really worried about this are federal employees that live paycheck to paycheck or contractors that might not get retroactive pay.


I’m not that concerned about a shutdown and I’m a fed. I’m more concerned that an unelected billionaire was able to blow up the original CR plan.
Anonymous
Post 12/19/2024 23:28     Subject: Yet another GOP shutdown?
Anonymous wrote:I think Trump/Musk are right but the timing and execution are terrible. It's going to be a rough 4 years.


I see a lot of this sentiment on Twitter. Right about what?
Anonymous
Post 12/19/2024 23:24     Subject: Yet another GOP shutdown?
I think Trump/Musk are right but the timing and execution are terrible. It's going to be a rough 4 years.