Anonymous wrote:Apparently the ratings for the opening night of RNC convention are not as good as expected. You know how much Trump focuses on ratings, so he will not be pleased when he sees them:

Republican Convention Ratings Are Down

“Despite Donald Trump’s dramatic appearance days after an assassination attempt, the opening night of the Republican National Convention drew in five million fewer viewers than the first night of the convention back in 2016 – when he became the party’s presidential candidate for the first time,” The Independent reports.

Of course it drew in fewer viewers than 2016 - how many less people have cable now?

I myself didn’t watch the convention on TV - I don’t have cable - but did watch Vance’s speech on my phone this morning.

It’ll be the same at the DNC.

But unity, right?

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Anonymous wrote:Last night the RNC played a clip of racists mocking a Black woman at Ole Miss:

Troll.

Two nights ago, the Republican mayor of Dallas gave a great speech to the RNC. I forgot his name but he’s a real person. He happens to be Black, but the first thing I noticed about him was that he’s a good politician and he makes sense. I hope to see more of him on the national stage.

A real person also chose that clip of a racist white frat boy mocking a Black woman and added audio that these college students should be celebrated. They didn't have to pick that clip to play at the RNC, but they chose to do so.

That element of the Republican party is still around.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m definitely voting D but I watched the R convention last night.

I’m so disappointed in the folks making nasty comments here. We don’t agree with what the R politicians are advocating for and we are going to defeat in the elections.

After all that is over they are still Americans just like us. They have families and love their country. We need to take a step back and reunite on common ground.

Honestly, I quibble with this. I don’t think they do. I’m not going to dehumanize them, but they do want to uninstall democracy and install something on the theocracy-oligarchy-fascism spectrum of bad government. You and I have not left the common ground that we all agreed on; they have. I’m not helping move the Overton Window any further.

I'm 10:17 and I agree with you, although they THINK they love this country. But they clearly don't understand how it is supposed to work. They have been so conditioned to fear the boogeymen the GOP keep screaming about, they have come to believe that the authoritarian way will save them. This kind of thing just keeps happening over and over and over in human history.

I’m the pp you’re replying to and I agree with you too. The hatred they have in their eyes, and for our Republican friends here who think all Democrats live in some restricted access GOP-free zone, I know several IRL, is astonishing. Like I get a pass because they know and love me, but you can see that that pass is conditional.

The GOP began to lose the plot when Roger Stone realized they needed a right wing media and they set out to do that. It got worse with Gingrich (and I’m leaving out Nixon and Reagan’s treachery against America) and worse still when the powers behind the right wing media lost their marbles around Obama and created the Tea Party. And then Trump and all his vile henchmen who say and do the wickedest things that Republican ignore or are supportive of because they think it’ll “deal with America’s problems.

It’s so sad. The GOP offers nothing, no ideas, no common good. In fact they mock that stuff as “woke.”

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Anonymous wrote:I’m definitely voting D but I watched the R convention last night.

I’m so disappointed in the folks making nasty comments here. We don’t agree with what the R politicians are advocating for and we are going to defeat in the elections.

After all that is over they are still Americans just like us. They have families and love their country. We need to take a step back and reunite on common ground.

Honestly, I quibble with this. I don’t think they do. I’m not going to dehumanize them, but they do want to uninstall democracy and install something on the theocracy-oligarchy-fascism spectrum of bad government. You and I have not left the common ground that we all agreed on; they have. I’m not helping move the Overton Window any further.

I'm 10:17 and I agree with you, although they THINK they love this country. But they clearly don't understand how it is supposed to work. They have been so conditioned to fear the boogeymen the GOP keep screaming about, they have come to believe that the authoritarian way will save them. This kind of thing just keeps happening over and over and over in human history.

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Anonymous wrote:Last night the RNC played a clip of racists mocking a Black woman at Ole Miss:

Troll.

Two nights ago, the Republican mayor of Dallas gave a great speech to the RNC. I forgot his name but he’s a real person. He happens to be Black, but the first thing I noticed about him was that he’s a good politician and he makes sense. I hope to see more of him on the national stage.

+1. It's great to see some promising emerging politicians. I really enjoyed hearing from Nancy Mace--hadn't known about her, but looked her up after she spoke and found her refreshing. DNC Convention put President Obama on his trajectory, and I presume we are seeing some emerging key statespeople here. While I want competent people in government and know that many who served under Trump last time were doing it as a service to the country, not necessarily Trump, I hope that some of these promising stars don't all accept administration jobs though. He's just so polarizing; for their longevity, just keep doing what they are doing and focus on the next go round.

Nancy would be disappointed that her intense publicity hounding had missed you until now.

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Anonymous wrote:Last night the RNC played a clip of racists mocking a Black woman at Ole Miss:

Troll.

Two nights ago, the Republican mayor of Dallas gave a great speech to the RNC. I forgot his name but he’s a real person. He happens to be Black, but the first thing I noticed about him was that he’s a good politician and he makes sense. I hope to see more of him on the national stage.

Just because the GOP has a Black friend does not make it OK to play a clip of that hideously racist video at the RNC.

Fwiw, he was a Democrat last year. So there's that.

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Anonymous wrote:Last night the RNC played a clip of racists mocking a Black woman at Ole Miss:

Troll.

Two nights ago, the Republican mayor of Dallas gave a great speech to the RNC. I forgot his name but he’s a real person. He happens to be Black, but the first thing I noticed about him was that he’s a good politician and he makes sense. I hope to see more of him on the national stage.

Just because the GOP has a Black friend does not make it OK to play a clip of that hideously racist video at the RNC.

Anonymous wrote:I’m definitely voting D but I watched the R convention last night.

I’m so disappointed in the folks making nasty comments here. We don’t agree with what the R politicians are advocating for and we are going to defeat in the elections.

After all that is over they are still Americans just like us. They have families and love their country. We need to take a step back and reunite on common ground.

I appreciate your sentiment. I really do. But we (the Dems) have been waiting here for decades hoping for compromise and common ground and the GOP ain't coming. They have been groomed to view us as the enemy. They are full of love for THEIR family and friends. If you are in their circle, sure. But they love to hate us and if you take that step back, you'll be waiting a long, long time.

As long as they continue to coalesce around Trump, they aren't interested in common ground.

Anonymous wrote:I’m definitely voting D but I watched the R convention last night.

I’m so disappointed in the folks making nasty comments here. We don’t agree with what the R politicians are advocating for and we are going to defeat in the elections.

After all that is over they are still Americans just like us. They have families and love their country. We need to take a step back and reunite on common ground.

Honestly, I quibble with this. I don’t think they do. I’m not going to dehumanize them, but they do want to uninstall democracy and install something on the theocracy-oligarchy-fascism spectrum of bad government. You and I have not left the common ground that we all agreed on; they have. I’m not helping move the Overton Window any further.

Anonymous wrote:I’m definitely voting D but I watched the R convention last night.

I’m so disappointed in the folks making nasty comments here. We don’t agree with what the R politicians are advocating for and we are going to defeat in the elections.

After all that is over they are still Americans just like us. They have families and love their country. We need to take a step back and reunite on common ground.

Political conventions are strange places. They are not normal Americans, they are the extreme fringe. Which is fine, all conventions are strange places. Hopefully fun for the people there - but regular people don't have to embrace it. We can just avert our eyes until its over and they return to the real world.

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Anonymous wrote:When has the VP nominee's spouse ever been relevant in any way? Who cares what she looks like or even who she is? Did anyone here have any opinion whatsoever of Hadassah Lieberman or whoever Tim Kaine's and Paul Ryan's wives are?

She’s not relevant but the right wing is evidently freaking out about her being not White. They’re really struggling and being gross.

Meanwhile her crap politics are right there to criticize.

I don't care about her being not white, but I want to get her a hair brush and a hair tie. Even a decent cut and style--I assume they have the means for that? Her dress was great and I think she's really pretty, but the big hank of hair falling across her eye and all the wispy bits was distracting. She looked like someone 'trying to grow out their hair", but you still tackle it for a big event. I have really thick hair as well, and I would never teach a class looking at my students with one eye while I talked, and that's how she started the speech. I found it very difficult to focus on what she was saying.

I am sure her highest priority is getting her hair coiffed to your standards, rando anon.

I mean, yeah, for a national event honoring her dh being nominated for VP, where her speech will be televised, yes, looking presentable should be one of her priorities.

I wonder she looked fine in person but was inexperienced with being on such a big stage, in front of camera, such a wide view. I’m a lawyer too and I pull my hair back all the time in court because I have the same kind of hair. But that’s far from the glamorous look of women present at RNC conventions.

I wouldn't call the look of women at the RNC glamorous, more like trashy, but yes. I totally support a return to normal beauty standards and not the blow up doll look, but she just looked sloppy. But to your point, yes, maybe she didn't know how to style herself. The dress she wore was very pretty, so clearly she was putting effort in somewhere.

Why would she be styling herself, though? This whole thing is scripted from top to bottom. Every other woman there was clearly styled. Did they just forget to put her in the hair and makeup schedule?

I also prefer a natural look. But someone in the beauty forum is asking if anyone has a dupe for her greige dress because they think it would be good for travel - and the fact it looks like she's dashing off for a redeye flight is just weird.

Oh I meant like, styling herself as in having a good sense of what looks good on her and what is appropriate for the event. I agree she should have a stylist at this point but she doesn’t look like a fashion plate and I doubt the RNC will spring for it.

And yes I agree with all your points. That greige dress was absolutely hideous. She has a pretty enough face and is thin. It should not be hard to look good.

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Anonymous wrote:When has the VP nominee's spouse ever been relevant in any way? Who cares what she looks like or even who she is? Did anyone here have any opinion whatsoever of Hadassah Lieberman or whoever Tim Kaine's and Paul Ryan's wives are?

She’s not relevant but the right wing is evidently freaking out about her being not White. They’re really struggling and being gross.

Meanwhile her crap politics are right there to criticize.

I don't care about her being not white, but I want to get her a hair brush and a hair tie. Even a decent cut and style--I assume they have the means for that? Her dress was great and I think she's really pretty, but the big hank of hair falling across her eye and all the wispy bits was distracting. She looked like someone 'trying to grow out their hair", but you still tackle it for a big event. I have really thick hair as well, and I would never teach a class looking at my students with one eye while I talked, and that's how she started the speech. I found it very difficult to focus on what she was saying.

I am sure her highest priority is getting her hair coiffed to your standards, rando anon.

I mean, yeah, for a national event honoring her dh being nominated for VP, where her speech will be televised, yes, looking presentable should be one of her priorities.

I wonder she looked fine in person but was inexperienced with being on such a big stage, in front of camera, such a wide view. I’m a lawyer too and I pull my hair back all the time in court because I have the same kind of hair. But that’s far from the glamorous look of women present at RNC conventions.

I wouldn't call the look of women at the RNC glamorous, more like trashy, but yes. I totally support a return to normal beauty standards and not the blow up doll look, but she just looked sloppy. But to your point, yes, maybe she didn't know how to style herself. The dress she wore was very pretty, so clearly she was putting effort in somewhere.

Why would she be styling herself, though? This whole thing is scripted from top to bottom. Every other woman there was clearly styled. Did they just forget to put her in the hair and makeup schedule?

I also prefer a natural look. But someone in the beauty forum is asking if anyone has a dupe for her greige dress because they think it would be good for travel - and the fact it looks like she's dashing off for a redeye flight is just weird.

Oh I meant like, styling herself as in having a good sense of what looks good on her and what is appropriate for the event. I agree she should have a stylist at this point but she doesn’t look like a fashion plate and I doubt the RNC will spring for it.

Anonymous wrote:What I wouldn't give for one unbiased news source that everyone also had to watch in addition to their siloed stations...... My aunt stayed with me for 4 days and we watched MSNBC instead of her typical Fox and had some actually really good discussions and find out we agree on a lot more things. She literally watches Fox News for 8 hours a day typically. Msnbc did not talk about illegals flooding the borders for 7 hours and she said it was actually refreshing to not have this sense of fear all day.
I know MSNBC leans left but I really don't know another reputable news station that is center.... I read plenty of things from the associated press and other centered new sources, but as far as TV goes, they're just is not a lot

MSNBC might not bang the same drums as Fox, but they’re still corporate and still pretty pro-GOP. I hope your aunt is inspired though and takes a break from Fox for a while; to a person people who watch that channel habitually get kind of a manic glimmer in their eyes. It is not good for anyone.

Next time perhaps the PBS News Hour. It’s even less sensationalist than MSNBC.

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