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Post 02/09/2024 21:34     Subject: Re:Special Counsel Report on Classified Documents

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Anonymous wrote:For those of you engaging in whataboutism....... this thread is specifically about the special counsel report on BIDEN'S possession of classified documents.

The report was damning. It is clear that Joe does NOT have respect for classified documents as he has claimed numerous times.
And, the fact that they are choosing not to charge him because he is of diminished capacity is just insane.
Reminds me of Comey and the Hillary Clinton investigation where he said "no reasonable prosecutor would" take the case.
It is a breathtaking blatant reminder of the double standards when it comes to prosecuting.
Amazing, really.

And, remember this...... for those of you saying that you don't care about Joe's memory and his cognitive issues and that he surrounds himself with "capable" people......... there are some things that the president is responsible for that cannot be simply passed of to a cabinet member or staffer.
He holds the nuclear codes. He is expected to sit across the table from other world leaders - both allies and adversaries.
It is actually frightening to think about these things.



Damning is the guy who has 91 counts pending against him along with losing his business for fraud after already having lost elections, a university a foundation, an airline and two wives.

This report says there were irregularities but nothing prosecutable. End of story.


Well now those counts are actually a plus because apparently prosecutors believe Trump is mentally capable of standing trial. Can’t say the same for Biden. He is too diminished to stand trial based on Hurs interviews with him and based on listening to his the transcripts of Biden revealing classified documents to and being interviewed by his ghost writer 7 years ago!! Biden was so bad even back then!!! If you really believed it was all just a “stutter” as people said in 2020, I have some land in the Everglades to sell you.


You understand that Hur is a right wing appointed political hack, right?


He didn’t conduct the interview in 2017. He didn’t tell Biden what to say. Biden is the problem, not Hur. And frankly, spare me the histrionics about Hur. Jack Smith is a strident lefty and on a crusade to bring down Trump. Why is that ok and yet having Hur investigate Biden so outrageous. At least Hur made the proper call to NOT prosecute. Smith, like his buddy Comey before him, is a self-promoter who wants to be part of the story and make a name for himself. Comey went after Martha Stewart and put her in jail for doing something people do all the time and just pay a fine. But no, he had to put Martha in jail. That is how Smith is. Smith went after thr former governor of Virginia entirely to make a name and the conviction was ultimate tossed because it was so ridiculous. He is 100% motivated by politics and self aggrandizement. Puh-lease stop pretending Hur did anything wrong. He did the country and frankly the Democratic Party a favor by stating what we all know. Biden is not fit for reelection and the DNC needs to fix this asap.


If you want to play history, let's talk about sweeping iran-contra under the rug; let's talk about Starr starting with Whitewater and ending up with Lewinski; let's talk about sweeping Iraq invasion under the rug and WMD lies that induced a trillion dollar war, let's talk about rogue special pprsecutors dogging dem politicians and ignoring GOP crimes for decades. But sure, Trump is totally innocent and never did anything shady or illegal in his life.

Spare me.


Despite what I think of your post...... We are talking about PRESENT day issues now. Stop living in the past.
We are looking at two different special counsels who have lifted the veil on the different standards of justice we are currently seeing.
One is charged for the SAME CRIME that the other committed. But, he gets a pass.
This is not justice.


They aren't different standards of justice. One guy opened the kimodo, returned documents and was open to interviews for him and is staff. The other guy lied, moved boxes to avoid detection, STILL HAS DOCUMENTS, and had staff lie to the FBI and DOJ. they are not the same and hence not different standards. Had trump given ALL of the documents back when first asked, he wouldn't have the issues on that Florida case today. That is a him problem.


Returning them when told to after willfully and knowingly retaining them for years is still a crime

I’m glad you agree Trump taking classified documents is a crime.


Trump was President, not a Senator


This fact gets glossed over so much. Biden had no legal authority to take docs from his time as senator or VP. He was breaking the law taking and possessing those documents and we know he had docs from his time as both senator and VP. That was clearly criminal and it doesn’t matter if the documents were locked up or whatever. They were not his to take.


That’s stupid. Biden had some notes and briefing documents from official travel and meetings and a few mistakenly were not collected and secured or destroyed. They ended up in boxes in his office and then in his home with no evidence that he or anyone else knew anything classified was in there. It happens, especially with notes. He didn’t take top secret documents. He kept some of his own notes. As a former Congressional Chief of Staff I see it as a partly a staff error.

Trump took whole boxes of Top secret plans in the folders marked TS and he showed them to any random idiot he wanted to impress. Trump constantly made sensitive phone calls on his unsecured personal cell phone. Trump gave classified information to Russian officials in the White House.
Anonymous
Post 02/09/2024 21:32     Subject: Special Counsel Report on Classified Documents

25th Amendment will be invoked.
Anonymous
Post 02/09/2024 21:31     Subject: Special Counsel Report on Classified Documents

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Anonymous wrote:The only lying is from people who cannot accept that Biden has major cognitive issues. Continue to do so at your own political peril. Everyone knows it now. The main tact today was to attack the propriety of Huh including the details about Biden’s memory in his report. I note there were no denials with respect to the allegations. The press will now hammer him if they even let him out again which they will not nor will he debate.


No buddy the crown for lying belongs to Trump and his GOP cult followers who enable his 30 k plus and growing body of verified lies, extensive business fraud, violent government rebellion.

The guy misrepresents literally everything from losing the 2020 election fair and square, to his economic performance to the size of crowds he attracts to his wealth and even his height and size of hands. There is nothing he won’t lie about.


Both can be true, Buddy. I hate Trump. But the defense of Biden as wholly in control of his faculties is as big a lie as I have ever seen. He is done and the people who are trying to gaslight everyone else into thinking he is fine are not helping themselves nor are they helping the country. Much as I cannot stand her either, the 25th Amendment she be invoked and Harris should step in.


Right after states are allowed to knock the disgraceful insurrectionist off the ballot as required by the constitution’s 14th amendment …


Yeah, you’re likely gonna lose that one 8-1 or 9-0. You’re having a bad week.
Anonymous
Post 02/09/2024 21:30     Subject: Special Counsel Report on Classified Documents

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Anonymous wrote:The only lying is from people who cannot accept that Biden has major cognitive issues. Continue to do so at your own political peril. Everyone knows it now. The main tact today was to attack the propriety of Huh including the details about Biden’s memory in his report. I note there were no denials with respect to the allegations. The press will now hammer him if they even let him out again which they will not nor will he debate.


No buddy the crown for lying belongs to Trump and his GOP cult followers who enable his 30 k plus and growing body of verified lies, extensive business fraud, violent government rebellion.

The guy misrepresents literally everything from losing the 2020 election fair and square, to his economic performance to the size of crowds he attracts to his wealth and even his height and size of hands. There is nothing he won’t lie about.


Biden needs to submit to cognitive tests asap and release them to the public. Even Harry Blackmun would go to the Mayo clinic every year for cognitive testing starting in his 70s. I hope everyone could agree on this much.
Anonymous
Post 02/09/2024 21:28     Subject: Special Counsel Report on Classified Documents

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Anonymous wrote:The only lying is from people who cannot accept that Biden has major cognitive issues. Continue to do so at your own political peril. Everyone knows it now. The main tact today was to attack the propriety of Huh including the details about Biden’s memory in his report. I note there were no denials with respect to the allegations. The press will now hammer him if they even let him out again which they will not nor will he debate.


No buddy the crown for lying belongs to Trump and his GOP cult followers who enable his 30 k plus and growing body of verified lies, extensive business fraud, violent government rebellion.

The guy misrepresents literally everything from losing the 2020 election fair and square, to his economic performance to the size of crowds he attracts to his wealth and even his height and size of hands. There is nothing he won’t lie about.


Both can be true, Buddy. I hate Trump. But the defense of Biden as wholly in control of his faculties is as big a lie as I have ever seen. He is done and the people who are trying to gaslight everyone else into thinking he is fine are not helping themselves nor are they helping the country. Much as I cannot stand her either, the 25th Amendment she be invoked and Harris should step in.


Right after states are allowed to knock the disgraceful insurrectionist off the ballot as required by the constitution’s 14th amendment …
Anonymous
Post 02/09/2024 21:24     Subject: Special Counsel Report on Classified Documents

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Anonymous wrote:The only lying is from people who cannot accept that Biden has major cognitive issues. Continue to do so at your own political peril. Everyone knows it now. The main tact today was to attack the propriety of Huh including the details about Biden’s memory in his report. I note there were no denials with respect to the allegations. The press will now hammer him if they even let him out again which they will not nor will he debate.


No buddy the crown for lying belongs to Trump and his GOP cult followers who enable his 30 k plus and growing body of verified lies, extensive business fraud, violent government rebellion.

The guy misrepresents literally everything from losing the 2020 election fair and square, to his economic performance to the size of crowds he attracts to his wealth and even his height and size of hands. There is nothing he won’t lie about.


Both can be true, Buddy. I hate Trump. But the defense of Biden as wholly in control of his faculties is as big a lie as I have ever seen. He is done and the people who are trying to gaslight everyone else into thinking he is fine are not helping themselves nor are they helping the country. Much as I cannot stand her either, the 25th Amendment she be invoked and Harris should step in.
Anonymous
Post 02/09/2024 21:21     Subject: Re:Special Counsel Report on Classified Documents

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Ok, so he IS clear headed and capable of going to trial? Let’s do that then.

The report found no evidence of wrongdoing that would necessitate a trial, though. Sorry.


DP - the Trumpers don’t care about lack of evidence. They are concerned with projecting false equivalences as Trump instructed them to do. As various of his admin staff observed, when accused of crimes, Trump accuses his rivals of committing the same crimes.


That’s not what the report said. The report said that Biden broke the law, but not worth bringing the case because the jury would likely view him as a sympathetic elderly man with memory problems



The report was a trashy hit job. There was not enough evidence to press charges so Hurr went on a Trumpian political mud slinging rampage. Hur probably has a bright future in the GOP

Special counsel report on Biden a ‘partisan hit job’, Democrats say

https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/feb/09/democrat-opinion-special-counsel-report-biden

Others raised spectre of Comey, FBI director who declined to indict Hillary Clinton in 2016 but publicly cast doubt on her character
Martin Pengelly in Washington
@MartinPengelly
Fri 9 Feb 2024 12.17 EST

Joe Biden, senior aides and political observers strongly criticiizes the special counsel, Robert Hur, for extensively discussing the president’s age and allegedly fading memory in his report on Biden’s retention of classified information from his time as a senator and as vice-president – which did not produce an indictment.
Hur, who Donald Trump appointed US attorney for Maryland, “could not refrain from investigative excess”, said Bob Bauer, Biden’s personal counsel.

Though this was “perhaps unsurprising given the intense pressures of the current political environment”, Bauer added, the final report “flouts Department [of Justice] regulations and
….
Hur’s “extraneous commentary” had “no place in this report”, Biden added.
Bauer elaborated: “The [DoJ] inspector general observed only a few years ago that high-profile investigations, such as those of a president, may be ‘subject to scrutiny not typical of the average criminal case, but that does not provide a basis for violating well-established department norms, and, essentially, ‘trashing’ the subject of an investigation’ with extraneous, unfounded and irrelevant critical commentary.

The inspector general added that it ‘violate[s] long-standing department practice and protocol’ to ‘criticise uncharged conduct’. The special counsel report fails that test as well.”

Hur, Bauer said, “had no choice but to find that criminal charges were not warranted. He had other choices, which should have been guided by the department’s rules, policies, and practices, and he made the wrong ones.”

The MSNBC host Joe Scarborough, an ex-Republican congressman, accused Hur of “irrelevant … politically charged, Trump-like ramblings”.

“It sure sounds like James Comey, who couldn’t indict Hillary Clinton illegally so he decided to hold a press conference and indict her politically.”

n his Message Box newsletter, Pfeiffer said the report was “very bad and poses some real political peril”.

But he added: “Robert Hur is described in press reports as a ‘well-respected US attorney’ – and maybe he once was. But this report is a partisan hit job. He swerves out of his lane to drive a negative narrative about Biden, the same message the Republican party uses against Biden … generously describ[ing] memory lapses from others but hammer[ing] Biden for the same.

It’s hard to read the report and not think that, without the ability to charge Biden with a crime, Hur wanted to damage him politically.” [u]



Anonymous
Post 02/09/2024 21:17     Subject: Special Counsel Report on Classified Documents

Anonymous wrote:The only lying is from people who cannot accept that Biden has major cognitive issues. Continue to do so at your own political peril. Everyone knows it now. The main tact today was to attack the propriety of Huh including the details about Biden’s memory in his report. I note there were no denials with respect to the allegations. The press will now hammer him if they even let him out again which they will not nor will he debate.


No buddy the crown for lying belongs to Trump and his GOP cult followers who enable his 30 k plus and growing body of verified lies, extensive business fraud, violent government rebellion.

The guy misrepresents literally everything from losing the 2020 election fair and square, to his economic performance to the size of crowds he attracts to his wealth and even his height and size of hands. There is nothing he won’t lie about.
Anonymous
Post 02/09/2024 21:16     Subject: Special Counsel Report on Classified Documents

Anonymous wrote:The only lying is from people who cannot accept that Biden has major cognitive issues. Continue to do so at your own political peril. Everyone knows it now. The main tact today was to attack the propriety of Huh including the details about Biden’s memory in his report. I note there were no denials with respect to the allegations. The press will now hammer him if they even let him out again which they will not nor will he debate.


It is fascinating, isn't it?

Nate Silver commented that 75% of Americans have concerns about Biden's age is an astonishing finding because to get 75% of Americans to actually agree on something is remarkable enough in today's climate.

While he didn't say it, I find even more remarkable the 25% who are not concerned, but I wonder if many of the 25% don't care because they only see him as a figurehead and the real administration is the group of policy wonks at the WH and that's all that matters.

The concerns over Biden's cognitive decline was already manifesting itself in 2020 and Biden escaped attention by spending most of that year in his basement. He did very little campaigning, using COVID as an excuse. And the gaffes where around, no matter how hard people hid it. For those of us with aging parents, the clues where all there. The denial was depressing and sad. But the Democrats have themselves to blame - they could have had a perfectly competent president in Amy Klobuchar.
Anonymous
Post 02/09/2024 21:12     Subject: Special Counsel Report on Classified Documents

The only lying is from people who cannot accept that Biden has major cognitive issues. Continue to do so at your own political peril. Everyone knows it now. The main tact today was to attack the propriety of Huh including the details about Biden’s memory in his report. I note there were no denials with respect to the allegations. The press will now hammer him if they even let him out again which they will not nor will he debate.
Anonymous
Post 02/09/2024 21:10     Subject: Re:Special Counsel Report on Classified Documents

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Anonymous wrote:Get um Kamala!


Ok, so he IS clear headed and capable of going to trial? Let’s do that then.

The report found no evidence of wrongdoing that would necessitate a trial, though. Sorry.


DP - the Trumpers don’t care about lack of evidence. They are concerned with projecting false equivalences as Trump instructed them to do. As various of his admin staff observed, when accused of crimes, Trump accuses his rivals of committing the same crimes.


That’s not what the report said. The report said that Biden broke the law, but not worth bringing the case because the jury would likely view him as a sympathetic elderly man with memory problems



The report was a trashy hit job. There was not enough evidence to press charges so Hurr went on a Trumpian political mud slinging rampage. Hur probably has a bright future in the GOP

Special counsel report on Biden a ‘partisan hit job’, Democrats say

https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/feb/09/democrat-opinion-special-counsel-report-biden

Others raised spectre of Comey, FBI director who declined to indict Hillary Clinton in 2016 but publicly cast doubt on her character
Martin Pengelly in Washington
@MartinPengelly
Fri 9 Feb 2024 12.17 EST

Joe Biden, senior aides and political observers strongly criticisms the special counsel, Robert Hur, for extensively discussing the president’s age and allegedly fading memory in his report on Biden’s retention of classified information from his time as a senator and as vice-president – which did not produce an indictment.
Hur, who Donald Trump appointed US attorney for Maryland, “could not refrain from investigative excess”, said Bob Bauer, Biden’s personal counsel.

Though this was “perhaps unsurprising given the intense pressures of the current political environment”, Bauer added, the final report “flouts Department [of Justice] regulations and
….
Hur’s “extraneous commentary” had “no place in this report”, Biden added.
Bauer elaborated: “The [DoJ] inspector general observed only a few years ago that high-profile investigations, such as those of a president, may be ‘subject to scrutiny not typical of the average criminal case, but that does not provide a basis for violating well-established department norms, and, essentially, ‘trashing’ the subject of an investigation’ with extraneous, unfounded and irrelevant critical commentary.

The inspector general added that it ‘violate[s] long-standing department practice and protocol’ to ‘criticise uncharged conduct’. The special counsel report fails that test as well.”

Hur, Bauer said, “had no choice but to find that criminal charges were not warranted. He had other choices, which should have been guided by the department’s rules, policies, and practices, and he made the wrong ones.”

The MSNBC host Joe Scarborough, an ex-Republican congressman, accused Hur of “irrelevant … politically charged, Trump-like ramblings”.

“It sure sounds like James Comey, who couldn’t indict Hillary Clinton illegally so he decided to hold a press conference and indict her politically.”

n his Message Box newsletter, Pfeiffer said the report was “very bad and poses some real political peril”.

But he added: “Robert Hur is described in press reports as a ‘well-respected US attorney’ – and maybe he once was. But this report is a partisan hit job. He swerves out of his lane to drive a negative narrative about Biden, the same message the Republican party uses against Biden … generously describ[ing] memory lapses from others but hammer[ing] Biden for the same.

“It’s hard to read the report and not think that, without the ability to charge Biden with a crime, Hur wanted to damage him politically.”
Anonymous
Post 02/09/2024 20:49     Subject: Re:Special Counsel Report on Classified Documents

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Anonymous wrote:For those of you engaging in whataboutism....... this thread is specifically about the special counsel report on BIDEN'S possession of classified documents.

The report was damning. It is clear that Joe does NOT have respect for classified documents as he has claimed numerous times.
And, the fact that they are choosing not to charge him because he is of diminished capacity is just insane.
Reminds me of Comey and the Hillary Clinton investigation where he said "no reasonable prosecutor would" take the case.
It is a breathtaking blatant reminder of the double standards when it comes to prosecuting.
Amazing, really.

And, remember this...... for those of you saying that you don't care about Joe's memory and his cognitive issues and that he surrounds himself with "capable" people......... there are some things that the president is responsible for that cannot be simply passed of to a cabinet member or staffer.
He holds the nuclear codes. He is expected to sit across the table from other world leaders - both allies and adversaries.
It is actually frightening to think about these things.



Damning is the guy who has 91 counts pending against him along with losing his business for fraud after already having lost elections, a university a foundation, an airline and two wives.

This report says there were irregularities but nothing prosecutable. End of story.


Well now those counts are actually a plus because apparently prosecutors believe Trump is mentally capable of standing trial. Can’t say the same for Biden. He is too diminished to stand trial based on Hurs interviews with him and based on listening to his the transcripts of Biden revealing classified documents to and being interviewed by his ghost writer 7 years ago!! Biden was so bad even back then!!! If you really believed it was all just a “stutter” as people said in 2020, I have some land in the Everglades to sell you.


You understand that Hur is a right wing appointed political hack, right?


He didn’t conduct the interview in 2017. He didn’t tell Biden what to say. Biden is the problem, not Hur. And frankly, spare me the histrionics about Hur. Jack Smith is a strident lefty and on a crusade to bring down Trump. Why is that ok and yet having Hur investigate Biden so outrageous. At least Hur made the proper call to NOT prosecute. Smith, like his buddy Comey before him, is a self-promoter who wants to be part of the story and make a name for himself. Comey went after Martha Stewart and put her in jail for doing something people do all the time and just pay a fine. But no, he had to put Martha in jail. That is how Smith is. Smith went after thr former governor of Virginia entirely to make a name and the conviction was ultimate tossed because it was so ridiculous. He is 100% motivated by politics and self aggrandizement. Puh-lease stop pretending Hur did anything wrong. He did the country and frankly the Democratic Party a favor by stating what we all know. Biden is not fit for reelection and the DNC needs to fix this asap.


If you want to play history, let's talk about sweeping iran-contra under the rug; let's talk about Starr starting with Whitewater and ending up with Lewinski; let's talk about sweeping Iraq invasion under the rug and WMD lies that induced a trillion dollar war, let's talk about rogue special pprsecutors dogging dem politicians and ignoring GOP crimes for decades. But sure, Trump is totally innocent and never did anything shady or illegal in his life.

Spare me.


Despite what I think of your post...... We are talking about PRESENT day issues now. Stop living in the past.
We are looking at two different special counsels who have lifted the veil on the different standards of justice we are currently seeing.
One is charged for the SAME CRIME that the other committed. But, he gets a pass.
This is not justice.


They aren't different standards of justice. One guy opened the kimodo, returned documents and was open to interviews for him and is staff. The other guy lied, moved boxes to avoid detection, STILL HAS DOCUMENTS, and had staff lie to the FBI and DOJ. they are not the same and hence not different standards. Had trump given ALL of the documents back when first asked, he wouldn't have the issues on that Florida case today. That is a him problem.


Very different standards of justice.
Biden took the classified documents as a Senator and VP. How in the hell did he get classified docs as a Senator?
And, not only did the report indicate he took them willfully and knowingly possessed them, but his ghostwriter actually deleted some of the recordings he made when he knew that there was an investigation.
If one is being charged for taking classified material, the other should be too.


They were not documents classified by the intel agencies. They were mostly his own handwritten notes. Stop your lying.


Mah papers!
Anonymous
Post 02/09/2024 20:44     Subject: Re:Special Counsel Report on Classified Documents

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Get um Kamala!


Ok, so he IS clear headed and capable of going to trial? Let’s do that then.

The report found no evidence of wrongdoing that would necessitate a trial, though. Sorry.


DP - the Trumpers don’t care about lack of evidence. They are concerned with projecting false equivalences as Trump instructed them to do. As various of his admin staff observed, when accused of crimes, Trump accuses his rivals of committing the same crimes.


That’s not what the report said. The report said that Biden broke the law, but not worth bringing the case because the jury would likely view him as a sympathetic elderly man with memory problems
Anonymous
Post 02/09/2024 20:41     Subject: Re:Special Counsel Report on Classified Documents

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Get um Kamala!


Ok, so he IS clear headed and capable of going to trial? Let’s do that then.

The report found no evidence of wrongdoing that would necessitate a trial, though. Sorry.


DP - the Trumpers don’t care about lack of evidence. They are concerned with projecting false equivalences as Trump instructed them to do. As various of his admin staff observed, when accused of crimes, Trump accuses his rivals of committing the same crimes.
Anonymous
Post 02/09/2024 20:28     Subject: Re:Special Counsel Report on Classified Documents

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:For those of you engaging in whataboutism....... this thread is specifically about the special counsel report on BIDEN'S possession of classified documents.

The report was damning. It is clear that Joe does NOT have respect for classified documents as he has claimed numerous times.
And, the fact that they are choosing not to charge him because he is of diminished capacity is just insane.
Reminds me of Comey and the Hillary Clinton investigation where he said "no reasonable prosecutor would" take the case.
It is a breathtaking blatant reminder of the double standards when it comes to prosecuting.
Amazing, really.

And, remember this...... for those of you saying that you don't care about Joe's memory and his cognitive issues and that he surrounds himself with "capable" people......... there are some things that the president is responsible for that cannot be simply passed of to a cabinet member or staffer.
He holds the nuclear codes. He is expected to sit across the table from other world leaders - both allies and adversaries.
It is actually frightening to think about these things.



Damning is the guy who has 91 counts pending against him along with losing his business for fraud after already having lost elections, a university a foundation, an airline and two wives.

This report says there were irregularities but nothing prosecutable. End of story.


Well now those counts are actually a plus because apparently prosecutors believe Trump is mentally capable of standing trial. Can’t say the same for Biden. He is too diminished to stand trial based on Hurs interviews with him and based on listening to his the transcripts of Biden revealing classified documents to and being interviewed by his ghost writer 7 years ago!! Biden was so bad even back then!!! If you really believed it was all just a “stutter” as people said in 2020, I have some land in the Everglades to sell you.


You understand that Hur is a right wing appointed political hack, right?


He didn’t conduct the interview in 2017. He didn’t tell Biden what to say. Biden is the problem, not Hur. And frankly, spare me the histrionics about Hur. Jack Smith is a strident lefty and on a crusade to bring down Trump. Why is that ok and yet having Hur investigate Biden so outrageous. At least Hur made the proper call to NOT prosecute. Smith, like his buddy Comey before him, is a self-promoter who wants to be part of the story and make a name for himself. Comey went after Martha Stewart and put her in jail for doing something people do all the time and just pay a fine. But no, he had to put Martha in jail. That is how Smith is. Smith went after thr former governor of Virginia entirely to make a name and the conviction was ultimate tossed because it was so ridiculous. He is 100% motivated by politics and self aggrandizement. Puh-lease stop pretending Hur did anything wrong. He did the country and frankly the Democratic Party a favor by stating what we all know. Biden is not fit for reelection and the DNC needs to fix this asap.


If you want to play history, let's talk about sweeping iran-contra under the rug; let's talk about Starr starting with Whitewater and ending up with Lewinski; let's talk about sweeping Iraq invasion under the rug and WMD lies that induced a trillion dollar war, let's talk about rogue special pprsecutors dogging dem politicians and ignoring GOP crimes for decades. But sure, Trump is totally innocent and never did anything shady or illegal in his life.

Spare me.


Despite what I think of your post...... We are talking about PRESENT day issues now. Stop living in the past.
We are looking at two different special counsels who have lifted the veil on the different standards of justice we are currently seeing.
One is charged for the SAME CRIME that the other committed. But, he gets a pass.
This is not justice.


They aren't different standards of justice. One guy opened the kimodo, returned documents and was open to interviews for him and is staff. The other guy lied, moved boxes to avoid detection, STILL HAS DOCUMENTS, and had staff lie to the FBI and DOJ. they are not the same and hence not different standards. Had trump given ALL of the documents back when first asked, he wouldn't have the issues on that Florida case today. That is a him problem.


Returning them when told to after willfully and knowingly retaining them for years is still a crime

I’m glad you agree Trump taking classified documents is a crime.


Trump was President, not a Senator


This fact gets glossed over so much. Biden had no legal authority to take docs from his time as senator or VP. He was breaking the law taking and possessing those documents and we know he had docs from his time as both senator and VP. That was clearly criminal and it doesn’t matter if the documents were locked up or whatever. They were not his to take.