Anonymous wrote:Because you can say you visited the site of the Titanic. If someone said that at a dinner party, I'm sure you'd say "Wow, how interesting. How was it?". One of the paying guests was a UK billionaire who had also gone to space. He must be the sort who lives for those special thrills that hardly anybody gets to do. It's a known pyschological thing that very wealthy people who've done all the usual thrills tend to seek out extreme experiences.

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Anonymous wrote:Lots of unconfirmed reports on Twitter about tapping sounds being picked up by sonar

It really doesn’t matter. I don’t think there’s a way to get them up or out. I hope they have Valium and/or sleeping pills and the ceo told them they have enough oxygen for 4 days so they aren’t aware of what’s actually happening when they become oxygen deprived.

Why would they have sleeping pills for what was supposed to be a 3 hour tour?

Same reason why astronauts get suicide pills when they go on a mission.

Also I thought it was 3 hours to get down there. Then assuming they tour around a bit and 3 hours back. Not to nitpick.

🎶a three hour tour, a three hour tour 🎶

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Anonymous wrote:The fact that they can’t communicate and haven’t surfaced points to a hull breach.

I would assume the hull had strain gauges. If there was no communication and no report of hull failure, most likely there was a power failure of some kind and the back up (if there was one) didn’t engage. Could be battery failure or electrical issue.

In that case, I would assume it is adrift and without power, too cold for survival.

ok for those of us without knowledge of this kind of vehicle - what is a hull gauge? I honestly wouldn't assume they had one though....

It’s a device that measures strain, which is a measure of how much a material deforms linearly. It’s the change in length of a material divided by the original length. The crudest version would be a wire fixed at both ends that snaps when stretched too long. In this case, the gauge would measure how much the hull is compressed compared to its original size. All ships and planes have strain gauges and stress gauges (stress is the force on materials that leads to strain) so that a rudder doesn’t snap off unexpectedly.

If the submarine had one, any excessive would be signaled via its communication system.

Unfortunately, carbon fiber is brittle. It can fail unexpectedly.

Those Boeing and Airbus with a carbon fibre are just falling out of the sky at the below freezing temps.

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Anonymous wrote:Lots of unconfirmed reports on Twitter about tapping sounds being picked up by sonar

It really doesn’t matter. I don’t think there’s a way to get them up or out. I hope they have Valium and/or sleeping pills and the ceo told them they have enough oxygen for 4 days so they aren’t aware of what’s actually happening when they become oxygen deprived.

Why would they have sleeping pills for what was supposed to be a 3 hour tour?

Same reason why astronauts get suicide pills when they go on a mission.

Also I thought it was 3 hours to get down there. Then assuming they tour around a bit and 3 hours back. Not to nitpick.

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Anonymous wrote:The fact that they can’t communicate and haven’t surfaced points to a hull breach.

I would assume the hull had strain gauges. If there was no communication and no report of hull failure, most likely there was a power failure of some kind and the back up (if there was one) didn’t engage. Could be battery failure or electrical issue.

In that case, I would assume it is adrift and without power, too cold for survival.

ok for those of us without knowledge of this kind of vehicle - what is a hull gauge? I honestly wouldn't assume they had one though....

It’s a device that measures strain, which is a measure of how much a material deforms linearly. It’s the change in length of a material divided by the original length. The crudest version would be a wire fixed at both ends that snaps when stretched too long. In this case, the gauge would measure how much the hull is compressed compared to its original size. All ships and planes have strain gauges and stress gauges (stress is the force on materials that leads to strain) so that a rudder doesn’t snap off unexpectedly.

If the submarine had one, any excessive would be signaled via its communication system.

Unfortunately, carbon fiber is brittle. It can fail unexpectedly.

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Anonymous wrote:Lots of unconfirmed reports on Twitter about tapping sounds being picked up by sonar

It really doesn’t matter. I don’t think there’s a way to get them up or out. I hope they have Valium and/or sleeping pills and the ceo told them they have enough oxygen for 4 days so they aren’t aware of what’s actually happening when they become oxygen deprived.

Why would they have sleeping pills for what was supposed to be a 3 hour tour?

Same reason why astronauts get suicide pills when they go on a mission.

Also I thought it was 3 hours to get down there. Then assuming they tour around a bit and 3 hours back. Not to nitpick.

Is this true? I tried googling but all I got were a bunch of responses for helplines and crisis centers.

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And yet...the people on board the submarine aren't the ones making tasteless jokes about people who are probably dead.

Well, they can’t. They’re likely dead.

And how the hell do you know what they joked about when they were alive?

I don't. They could've been terrible people. Which is what you're being when you make dumb jokes like "Hur hur they no make joke cause they dead. Billionaires are dumb."

It is such low hanging fruit. I'd tell you that you could do better in terms of jokes but I can tell from the illogical response you just typed that you likely can't.

Well, I know you thing your the Logic Master with airtight statements like “I don’t see those people (who you’ve never met in your life) making jokes about dead people!” but let me assure you, you’re not. You’re just trotting out your smug sense of superiority. And i didn’t make a joke, so put down your violin. I stated a fact. They’re dead. And wanna know something else? Most mega wealthy people are not nice people. So no, I’m not losing any sleep over this. They played a risky game, they obviously knew the risks. They lost. It happens.

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Anonymous wrote:Lots of unconfirmed reports on Twitter about tapping sounds being picked up by sonar

It really doesn’t matter. I don’t think there’s a way to get them up or out. I hope they have Valium and/or sleeping pills and the ceo told them they have enough oxygen for 4 days so they aren’t aware of what’s actually happening when they become oxygen deprived.

Why would they have sleeping pills for what was supposed to be a 3 hour tour?

Same reason why astronauts get suicide pills when they go on a mission.

Also I thought it was 3 hours to get down there. Then assuming they tour around a bit and 3 hours back. Not to nitpick.

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Anonymous wrote:Lots of unconfirmed reports on Twitter about tapping sounds being picked up by sonar

It really doesn’t matter. I don’t think there’s a way to get them up or out. I hope they have Valium and/or sleeping pills and the ceo told them they have enough oxygen for 4 days so they aren’t aware of what’s actually happening when they become oxygen deprived.

Why would they have sleeping pills for what was supposed to be a 3 hour tour?

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Anonymous wrote:Why are you people picking on the fact that they were rich? I don’t understand how it’s relevant.

Um, dur, "most rich people aren't nice."

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Anonymous wrote:Lots of unconfirmed reports on Twitter about tapping sounds being picked up by sonar

It really doesn’t matter. I don’t think there’s a way to get them up or out. I hope they have Valium and/or sleeping pills and the ceo told them they have enough oxygen for 4 days so they aren’t aware of what’s actually happening when they become oxygen deprived.

Anonymous wrote:Why are you people picking on the fact that they were rich? I don’t understand how it’s relevant.

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Anonymous wrote:The fact that they can’t communicate and haven’t surfaced points to a hull breach.

I would assume the hull had strain gauges. If there was no communication and no report of hull failure, most likely there was a power failure of some kind and the back up (if there was one) didn’t engage. Could be battery failure or electrical issue.

In that case, I would assume it is adrift and without power, too cold for survival.

ok for those of us without knowledge of this kind of vehicle - what is a hull gauge? I honestly wouldn't assume they had one though....

It’s a device that measures strain, which is a measure of how much a material deforms linearly. It’s the change in length of a material divided by the original length. The crudest version would be a wire fixed at both ends that snaps when stretched too long. In this case, the gauge would measure how much the hull is compressed compared to its original size. All ships and planes have strain gauges and stress gauges (stress is the force on materials that leads to strain) so that a rudder doesn’t snap off unexpectedly.

If the submarine had one, any excessive would be signaled via its communication system.

Anonymous wrote:Why are you people picking on the fact that they were rich? I don’t understand how it’s relevant.