Anonymous
Post 01/28/2023 13:38     Subject: Memphis Cops Kill Motorist After Traffic Stop

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why did they have such a hard time putting tyre in custody, they had 5 cops? How could they not restrain him from resisting?


They should do toxicology on the cops.


Steroid abuse is a serious issue.


LOL no. Did you post on the wrong thread?

It's funny to hear a bunch of entitled justice warriors talk about law enforcement and tactics when they clearly have no idea what they are talking about. I'm sure some nerd will soon chime in with some scientific study that will explain everything!



You don’t think the cops in waste it on something? You don’t think cops ever show up to work wasted?


Do you think doctors show up to work wasted?

They kill literally thousands of people a year so they could be drunk or on roids?
Anonymous
Post 01/28/2023 13:35     Subject: Memphis Cops Kill Motorist After Traffic Stop

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why did they have such a hard time putting tyre in custody, they had 5 cops? How could they not restrain him from resisting?


They should do toxicology on the cops.


Steroid abuse is a serious issue.


LOL no. Did you post on the wrong thread?

It's funny to hear a bunch of entitled justice warriors talk about law enforcement and tactics when they clearly have no idea what they are talking about. I'm sure some nerd will soon chime in with some scientific study that will explain everything!



You don’t think the cops in waste it on something? You don’t think cops ever show up to work wasted?
Anonymous
Post 01/28/2023 13:30     Subject: Memphis Cops Kill Motorist After Traffic Stop

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Most innocent people get killed by cops for not following instructions.

When I was 29 I was driving a red Jeep at 4am by myself and I kinda saw a cop way back behind me. I was dead sober. I actually feel asleep on GFs sofa on a Thursday watching a movie and was driving home cause I had work the next day

As I approached the county line an unmarked car came out of now here cut me off and the cop car behind boxes me in.

Cop comes out with gun puts it towards my head yells put hand in dashboard don’t move Fing hands and a third cop car boxes me in one left side.

I stay quite hand in dash. Finally he puts gun away.

Turns out someone carjacked same exact Jeep I had same color with a discription of single man age late 20s.

As I was approaching county line unless in hot pursuit could not follow and was running plates when he pulled me over.

I would have been shot of did not follow directions.


Alas, some people would be shot even if they did follow directions. Or, as we can see from the topic of this thread, would be giving conflicting commands and beaten to death.



DP

Yes that is the experience of many POC - even judges, professors and doctors of color report being mishandled by police during routine traffic stops.

It is a big stretch from one guy’s personal fortunate experience to “Most innocent people get killed by cops for not following instructions.”

Probably mentally unwell people of all races have bad experiences because their responses are misinterpreted as aggressive.

This is why more police training in deescalation and appropriate levels of force are needed (in conjunction with support services for cops and accountability measures to discipline bad cops). The majority of cops are just trying to do their job and probably need more training and counseling support. The bad actors need to be removed from the force.
Anonymous
Post 01/28/2023 13:28     Subject: Memphis Cops Kill Motorist After Traffic Stop

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Most innocent people get killed by cops for not following instructions.

When I was 29 I was driving a red Jeep at 4am by myself and I kinda saw a cop way back behind me. I was dead sober. I actually feel asleep on GFs sofa on a Thursday watching a movie and was driving home cause I had work the next day

As I approached the county line an unmarked car came out of now here cut me off and the cop car behind boxes me in.

Cop comes out with gun puts it towards my head yells put hand in dashboard don’t move Fing hands and a third cop car boxes me in one left side.

I stay quite hand in dash. Finally he puts gun away.

Turns out someone carjacked same exact Jeep I had same color with a discription of single man age late 20s.

As I was approaching county line unless in hot pursuit could not follow and was running plates when he pulled me over.

I would have been shot of did not follow directions.



Exactly - follow police directions. You wont get hurt. It's so GD simple it's painful.

This guy followed directions and got shot anyway. The officer was sentenced to three years.
Anonymous
Post 01/28/2023 13:25     Subject: Memphis Cops Kill Motorist After Traffic Stop

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why did they have such a hard time putting tyre in custody, they had 5 cops? How could they not restrain him from resisting?


They should do toxicology on the cops.


Steroid abuse is a serious issue.


LOL no. Did you post on the wrong thread?

It's funny to hear a bunch of entitled justice warriors talk about law enforcement and tactics when they clearly have no idea what they are talking about. I'm sure some nerd will soon chime in with some scientific study that will explain everything!
Anonymous
Post 01/28/2023 13:22     Subject: Re:Memphis Cops Kill Motorist After Traffic Stop

You can't excuse the behavior of the police in this situation. It is beyond disgusting what they did.

Btw, even Fox news is condemning the police in this situation.
Anonymous
Post 01/28/2023 13:19     Subject: Re:Memphis Cops Kill Motorist After Traffic Stop

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:These murderers should die the same way. They should be beaten and filmed and their family members must watch it all.


You will be lucky to get one murder conviction out of this deal.

The damage he took, although definitely unjustified and a horrible use of tactics, was not likely to cause death. MMA athletes take 10x the abuse and don't die.


You're a liar and a terrible person.


Ad hominem attacks against subject matter experts on this thread are inappropriate and can adversly impact your standing and reputation on this forum.
Anonymous
Post 01/28/2023 13:18     Subject: Memphis Cops Kill Motorist After Traffic Stop

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Not making excuses but Tyre was clearly under the influence o something and and attempts to portray him as some type of angel fall on deaf ears. That being said he did not deserve what happened to him but he should not be portrayed as some type of angel child for the benefit of a lawsuit.


You are making excuses. That's exactly what you're doing. There is no excuse. It's unacceptable. Point Blank.


Disagree. You disobey cops and when you run then you are partly responsible for what happens. It's not a 50/50 ownership but there is some or we are a lawless country. What did he would think would happen when he ran - a handshake, a high five? Did he deserve a beating? Absolutely not, but he could have laid down and surrendered like 99% of people do but he made a decision to roll the dice. What is an acceptable outcome from running from the police - let go with a citations, free to go on your own way because you were faster?


Excellent summary


He did get on the ground any at his hands behind his back. But they were screaming get on the ground and put your hands behind the back. What are you supposed to do when you’ve already complied and they’re still screaming at you to do exactly what you’ve done.

He didn’t even commit a crime, he was falsely pulled over, he was kidnapped. Those are the charges against the cops, and under those circumstances only a smart human being would run in the stupid one would stay in those situations.
Anonymous
Post 01/28/2023 13:17     Subject: Memphis Cops Kill Motorist After Traffic Stop

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Most innocent people get killed by cops for not following instructions.

When I was 29 I was driving a red Jeep at 4am by myself and I kinda saw a cop way back behind me. I was dead sober. I actually feel asleep on GFs sofa on a Thursday watching a movie and was driving home cause I had work the next day

As I approached the county line an unmarked car came out of now here cut me off and the cop car behind boxes me in.

Cop comes out with gun puts it towards my head yells put hand in dashboard don’t move Fing hands and a third cop car boxes me in one left side.

I stay quite hand in dash. Finally he puts gun away.

Turns out someone carjacked same exact Jeep I had same color with a discription of single man age late 20s.

As I was approaching county line unless in hot pursuit could not follow and was running plates when he pulled me over.

I would have been shot of did not follow directions.



Exactly - follow police directions. You wont get hurt. It's so GD simple it's painful.



Oh sure, so simple. Explain to me while Daniel Shaver still executed by cops even though he WAS following instructions:



The cop was even acquitted!


Daniel Shaver's a good example, because technically he didn't follow all of the (confusing and nearly impossible to follow consistently) instructions. He reached briefly for his waistband, which is likely why the officer was acquitted. But that's AFTER four and half minutes of complying with what the officer demanded. He was doing everything he could, never posed a threat to anyone, and ultimately a tiny instinctual reaction to his pants slipping down was enough for a death sentence and for the officer to walk free. It's insane, but people will still claim that if you just behave you won't get killed.
Anonymous
Post 01/28/2023 13:17     Subject: Re:Memphis Cops Kill Motorist After Traffic Stop

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Can there just be an understanding that you should never resist arrest? Regardless of race, gender, criminal record - just do not resist arrest.


He didn’t resist. They were yelling get on the ground, while in the ground. They were yelling, hand behind your back, while they were holding into his hands.


There is literally a video of him resisting.


There is a video of him on the ground while they yell get on the ground. There is a video of him with his hands held by coos while they yelled hands behind his back.

It’s like the cops were wasted on something.

Then he ran.
Anonymous
Post 01/28/2023 13:15     Subject: Memphis Cops Kill Motorist After Traffic Stop

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Not making excuses but Tyre was clearly under the influence o something and and attempts to portray him as some type of angel fall on deaf ears. That being said he did not deserve what happened to him but he should not be portrayed as some type of angel child for the benefit of a lawsuit.


You are making excuses. That's exactly what you're doing. There is no excuse. It's unacceptable. Point Blank.


Disagree. You disobey cops and when you run then you are partly responsible for what happens. It's not a 50/50 ownership but there is some or we are a lawless country. What did he would think would happen when he ran - a handshake, a high five? Did he deserve a beating? Absolutely not, but he could have laid down and surrendered like 99% of people do but he made a decision to roll the dice. What is an acceptable outcome from running from the police - let go with a citations, free to go on your own way because you were faster?


Excellent summary
Anonymous
Post 01/28/2023 13:15     Subject: Re:Memphis Cops Kill Motorist After Traffic Stop

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:These murderers should die the same way. They should be beaten and filmed and their family members must watch it all.


You will be lucky to get one murder conviction out of this deal.

The damage he took, although definitely unjustified and a horrible use of tactics, was not likely to cause death. MMA athletes take 10x the abuse and don't die.


You're a liar and a terrible person.
Anonymous
Post 01/28/2023 13:14     Subject: Memphis Cops Kill Motorist After Traffic Stop

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Most innocent people get killed by cops for not following instructions.

When I was 29 I was driving a red Jeep at 4am by myself and I kinda saw a cop way back behind me. I was dead sober. I actually feel asleep on GFs sofa on a Thursday watching a movie and was driving home cause I had work the next day

As I approached the county line an unmarked car came out of now here cut me off and the cop car behind boxes me in.

Cop comes out with gun puts it towards my head yells put hand in dashboard don’t move Fing hands and a third cop car boxes me in one left side.

I stay quite hand in dash. Finally he puts gun away.

Turns out someone carjacked same exact Jeep I had same color with a discription of single man age late 20s.

As I was approaching county line unless in hot pursuit could not follow and was running plates when he pulled me over.

I would have been shot of did not follow directions.



Exactly - follow police directions. You wont get hurt. It's so GD simple it's painful.


Why do you not acknowledge that people are killed while following police directions, or being incapable of following directions (deaf people have been shot for not hearing instructions).

Anonymous
Post 01/28/2023 13:13     Subject: Re:Memphis Cops Kill Motorist After Traffic Stop

Anonymous wrote:These murderers should die the same way. They should be beaten and filmed and their family members must watch it all.


You will be lucky to get one murder conviction out of this deal.

The damage he took, although definitely unjustified and a horrible use of tactics, was not likely to cause death. MMA athletes take 10x the abuse and don't die.
Anonymous
Post 01/28/2023 13:12     Subject: Re:Memphis Cops Kill Motorist After Traffic Stop

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Can there just be an understanding that you should never resist arrest? Regardless of race, gender, criminal record - just do not resist arrest.


He didn’t resist. They were yelling get on the ground, while in the ground. They were yelling, hand behind your back, while they were holding into his hands.


There is literally a video of him resisting.