Anonymous
08/28/2023 17:39
Subject: Teacher Resident - no teaching qualifications required?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Time for gen ed kids to enjoy what sped kids have gotten for years now-completely unqualified "teachers"
But don't worry AAP parents, your kids would NEVER get one of these people. We'll even transfer over an experienced teacher from a Gen Ed class and give THEM a crappy long-term sub than make your special snowflakes suffer!!
(true story)
I believe it!!
Not true. My child’s 5th grade AAP teacher is a “teacher in training”.
I don't believe this.
Anonymous
08/28/2023 16:03
Subject: Teacher Resident - no teaching qualifications required?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Time for gen ed kids to enjoy what sped kids have gotten for years now-completely unqualified "teachers"
But don't worry AAP parents, your kids would NEVER get one of these people. We'll even transfer over an experienced teacher from a Gen Ed class and give THEM a crappy long-term sub than make your special snowflakes suffer!!
(true story)
I believe it!!
Not true. My child’s 5th grade AAP teacher is a “teacher in training”.
Anonymous
08/28/2023 14:14
Subject: Teacher Resident - no teaching qualifications required?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Im a current HS teacher. I know the challenges, and am frankly offended “they” feel any warm body can do my job.
OTOH, when I was in HS in the early 00’s, in FCPS, we had a new history teacher. He was a career switcher and had previously been a lawyer. Didn’t make it to winter break.
I feel bad for the kids for (a) not being taught by someone who understands the pedagogy and (b) the transition and disruption this will cause.
Funny you mentioned the lawyer didn’t last. My experience had been that “retreads” particularly from more professional jobs are some of the best teachers.
Not everyone will stay. But, the career switch has some requirements before starting like passing subject Praxis, VCLA exam and one semester of weekend online class.
Teacher resident is now called Teacher trainee and has no requirement except a Bachelors. So these trainee jobs will have more people signing up but less who will stay on.
Anonymous
08/28/2023 08:36
Subject: Teacher Resident - no teaching qualifications required?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Time for gen ed kids to enjoy what sped kids have gotten for years now-completely unqualified "teachers"
But don't worry AAP parents, your kids would NEVER get one of these people. We'll even transfer over an experienced teacher from a Gen Ed class and give THEM a crappy long-term sub than make your special snowflakes suffer!!
(true story)
I believe it!!
Anonymous
08/28/2023 07:50
Subject: Teacher Resident - no teaching qualifications required?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Im a current HS teacher. I know the challenges, and am frankly offended “they” feel any warm body can do my job.
OTOH, when I was in HS in the early 00’s, in FCPS, we had a new history teacher. He was a career switcher and had previously been a lawyer. Didn’t make it to winter break.
I feel bad for the kids for (a) not being taught by someone who understands the pedagogy and (b) the transition and disruption this will cause.
Funny you mentioned the lawyer didn’t last. My experience had been that “retreads” particularly from more professional jobs are some of the best teachers.
Such an ignorant and rude comment. Enjoy the teacher shortage.
Anonymous
08/28/2023 06:28
Subject: Re:Teacher Resident - no teaching qualifications required?
Spotsylvania literally has students doing “zoom in a room” for Math and English classes because of lack of staffing. FCPS probably isn’t too far behind unless they make some serious changes.
Anonymous
08/27/2023 23:13
Subject: Teacher Resident - no teaching qualifications required?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:500 teachers needed one week before school. FCPS will fill classrooms with unskilled workers who don’t know the subject they are hired to teach and pay them $48K/year instead of paying up for real teachers.
FCPS is a shithole.
Not FCPS’s fault that the taxpayers fund teacher salaries at such low levels. If you really cared you’d petition the BoS to raise taxes or allocate a greater percentage to FCPS. Same holds true for state representatives who have critically underfunded NOVA districts for decades
Anonymous
08/27/2023 23:13
Subject: Teacher Resident - no teaching qualifications required?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:500 teachers needed one week before school. FCPS will fill classrooms with unskilled workers who don’t know the subject they are hired to teach and pay them $48K/year instead of paying up for real teachers.
FCPS is a shithole.
Except this is a NATIONWIDE problem. FCPS is not the only district in this scenario.
Anonymous
08/27/2023 23:08
Subject: Teacher Resident - no teaching qualifications required?
Anonymous wrote:Time for gen ed kids to enjoy what sped kids have gotten for years now-completely unqualified "teachers"
But don't worry AAP parents, your kids would NEVER get one of these people. We'll even transfer over an experienced teacher from a Gen Ed class and give THEM a crappy long-term sub than make your special snowflakes suffer!!
(true story)
Anonymous
08/27/2023 22:29
Subject: Teacher Resident - no teaching qualifications required?
Anonymous wrote:500 teachers needed one week before school. FCPS will fill classrooms with unskilled workers who don’t know the subject they are hired to teach and pay them $48K/year instead of paying up for real teachers.
FCPS is a shithole.
Anonymous
08/27/2023 22:03
Subject: Teacher Resident - no teaching qualifications required?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Im a current HS teacher. I know the challenges, and am frankly offended “they” feel any warm body can do my job.
OTOH, when I was in HS in the early 00’s, in FCPS, we had a new history teacher. He was a career switcher and had previously been a lawyer. Didn’t make it to winter break.
I feel bad for the kids for (a) not being taught by someone who understands the pedagogy and (b) the transition and disruption this will cause.
Funny you mentioned the lawyer didn’t last. My experience had been that “retreads” particularly from more professional jobs are some of the best teachers.
Could you explain what you mean by "more professional"?
Anonymous
08/27/2023 21:42
Subject: Re:Teacher Resident - no teaching qualifications required?
Add me to the list of people curious about how many make it to June. I’m sure those numbers won’t be widely shared. A lot of the teacher trainees are just being thrown to the wolves— no mentors, no one to help with room setup, no one to show them how to use the various software, etc. Those of us with some experience help where we can, but we’re barely treading water ourselves. Some of these trainees are working multiple jobs. I don’t see how this is sustainable.
Anonymous
08/27/2023 21:07
Subject: Teacher Resident - no teaching qualifications required?
Anonymous wrote:I look forward to seeing the numbers on how many of these hires make it until June. Being a first year teacher is tough even when you have taken classes and done student teaching and a huge percentage leave within the first 3 years. The positions many of these people are going into are at poorly managed schools or schools with a large number of new teachers with few veterans to mentor them. While people poke fun of education classes, they provide a framework to think through how to handle various classroom scenarios, educational psychology background, and intensive mentoring through student teaching. I cannot imagine being hired to teach physics because of my biology bachelors degree, which it sounds like might happen because the requirements seem to be any bachelors degree. And being hired to do so a week before school starts with no training…they won’t even get Great Beginnings, the new teacher induction program, because that was this week!
This literally happened to me and it was hell but I survived. I’m about to start year 4 and finally feel like I know what I am doing. Education classes are not that useful to be honest. I’m older and fortunately gained many valuable skills through life experiences
Anonymous
08/27/2023 20:11
Subject: Teacher Resident - no teaching qualifications required?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This country is screwed. We need to pay teachers are nobody is going to get into the field. Look at the numbers of education major undergrad and graduate. We will soon be having high school grads as teachers.
That’s already happening. Many schools have long term subs or a revolving door of random subs or IAs teaching classes indefinitely because they can’t fill positions.
Agree with the other PP that the first priority must be to stop the bleeding of experienced teachers. Money is part of it but definitely not the only factor.
The long term subs at my kids middle and high schools were horrible. They were so behind in the classes they taught and I hired tutors because of how bad they were.
The worst sub we ever encountered was the special Ed sub who knew nothing about disabilities and followed my child to every class and abused my child about their disability all day. She humiliated my child in front of every class and made kid redo work, erase and start over again and again and work through lunch. There were adults there who knew what she was doing was out of line and not one of them spoke up.
Anonymous
08/27/2023 17:51
Subject: Teacher Resident - no teaching qualifications required?
Anonymous wrote:Im a current HS teacher. I know the challenges, and am frankly offended “they” feel any warm body can do my job.
OTOH, when I was in HS in the early 00’s, in FCPS, we had a new history teacher. He was a career switcher and had previously been a lawyer. Didn’t make it to winter break.
I feel bad for the kids for (a) not being taught by someone who understands the pedagogy and (b) the transition and disruption this will cause.
Funny you mentioned the lawyer didn’t last. My experience had been that “retreads” particularly from more professional jobs are some of the best teachers.