Anonymous
05/03/2022 07:25
Subject: Re:“We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
The court is self governing and doesn't have rules about this. I am sorry, if one justice can participate in a coup against the country and not hasve to recuse themselves from related cases, then I don't GAF about this.
See how shattering norms and rules works?
I find it difficult to believe SCOTUS has no rules to protect its deliberative process.
I have heard former SCOTUS clerks say they were warned on the first day of the job that leaking opinions would not be tolerated and would end in dismissal and disbarment. So, I do believe they have rules.
Add to that the fact that no opinion has ever been leaked before.
This person needs to be identified immediately and dealt with. This is unacceptable.
So you’re more concerned with the leak than the fact that SCOTUS doing away with right to privacy? Good stuff.
Yes, I actually am. And, they are NOT doing away with the right to privacy if this report is accurate.
They are not even making abortion illegal. They are returning the decision to the people.... to be decided by the state officials elected by the people.
A breach such as this is actually an insurrection on the court. It is appalling and needs to be addressed immediately.
Excellent summary. Exactly correct.
+1
Many people are too emotionally charged over the draft opinion to comprehend what it actually means, and to comprehend the damage that was inflicted upon the court by the leak.
The Court was already damaged.
It’s partisan and impacts the lives of Americans more than Congress does.
So, if the Court had decided (or decides ultimately) to uphold Roe, would you still be saying that it's damaged? Are you only saying this because the Court may issue an opinion with which you disagree?
When the Court is wildly out of step with the country, that's a problem.
This ruling is a problem. The Court is broken. Sotomayor was right. Roberts was right.
The Court is not designed to simply “go with the flow” of popular public opinion.
it was put in place (in recent years) to do exactly this - overturn Roe v Wade. We shouldn't be surprised.
Anonymous
05/03/2022 07:24
Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Here's what an America without Roe will look like.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/05/upshot/abortion-without-roe-wade.html?fbclid=IwAR0y91eQGNT6PDe3p6m7HGvhcmH-CsfyTlgYg4pSoddiJJSlyQ6NsehlvZA
Here are the clinics that would close immediately due to trigger laws.
Very likely that trigger laws ban IVF in at least a dozen states this summer:
One of the legislative initiatives that has been undertaken by several states is a statute creating a trigger ban on abortion, wherein the Supreme Court striking down Roe would immediately result in an automatic complete abortion ban statewide.2 So far, twelve states3 have passed such trigger bans, and several other states are poised to follow and ban abortion entirely, should Roe be overturned.4 These trigger bans could have far-reaching, unintended (or perhaps completely intended) consequences not only for pregnant people, but also for those trying to prevent pregnancy through common methods such as birth control or the “morning after” pill.5 Additionally, the trigger bans may have significant impacts on those pursuing in vitro fertilization (IVF), as well as on the providers of such services.6
https://www.law.georgetown.edu/gender-journal/abortion-trigger-ban-statutes-impacts-on-plan-b-birth-control-and-ivf-treatments/
Good bye, IVF.
Wonder how white republicans women feel about this
If they support overturning Roe, they deserve to be barren.
Anonymous
05/03/2022 07:23
Subject: Re:“We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
The court is self governing and doesn't have rules about this. I am sorry, if one justice can participate in a coup against the country and not hasve to recuse themselves from related cases, then I don't GAF about this.
See how shattering norms and rules works?
I find it difficult to believe SCOTUS has no rules to protect its deliberative process.
I have heard former SCOTUS clerks say they were warned on the first day of the job that leaking opinions would not be tolerated and would end in dismissal and disbarment. So, I do believe they have rules.
Add to that the fact that no opinion has ever been leaked before.
This person needs to be identified immediately and dealt with. This is unacceptable.
So you’re more concerned with the leak than the fact that SCOTUS doing away with right to privacy? Good stuff.
Yes, I actually am. And, they are NOT doing away with the right to privacy if this report is accurate.
They are not even making abortion illegal. They are returning the decision to the people.... to be decided by the state officials elected by the people.
A breach such as this is actually an insurrection on the court. It is appalling and needs to be addressed immediately.
Excellent summary. Exactly correct.
+1
Many people are too emotionally charged over the draft opinion to comprehend what it actually means, and to comprehend the damage that was inflicted upon the court by the leak.
The Court was already damaged.
It’s partisan and impacts the lives of Americans more than Congress does.
So, if the Court had decided (or decides ultimately) to uphold Roe, would you still be saying that it's damaged? Are you only saying this because the Court may issue an opinion with which you disagree?
When the Court is wildly out of step with the country, that's a problem.
This ruling is a problem. The Court is broken. Sotomayor was right. Roberts was right.
The Court is not designed to simply “go with the flow” of popular public opinion.
Anonymous
05/03/2022 07:23
Subject: Re:“We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
The court is self governing and doesn't have rules about this. I am sorry, if one justice can participate in a coup against the country and not hasve to recuse themselves from related cases, then I don't GAF about this.
See how shattering norms and rules works?
I find it difficult to believe SCOTUS has no rules to protect its deliberative process.
I have heard former SCOTUS clerks say they were warned on the first day of the job that leaking opinions would not be tolerated and would end in dismissal and disbarment. So, I do believe they have rules.
Add to that the fact that no opinion has ever been leaked before.
This person needs to be identified immediately and dealt with. This is unacceptable.
So you’re more concerned with the leak than the fact that SCOTUS doing away with right to privacy? Good stuff.
Yes, I actually am. And, they are NOT doing away with the right to privacy if this report is accurate.
They are not even making abortion illegal. They are returning the decision to the people.... to be decided by the state officials elected by the people.
A breach such as this is actually an insurrection on the court. It is appalling and needs to be addressed immediately.
Excellent summary. Exactly correct.
+1
Many people are too emotionally charged over the draft opinion to comprehend what it actually means, and to comprehend the damage that was inflicted upon the court by the leak.
The Court was already damaged.
It’s partisan and impacts the lives of Americans more than Congress does.
So, if the Court had decided (or decides ultimately) to uphold Roe, would you still be saying that it's damaged? Are you only saying this because the Court may issue an opinion with which you disagree?
When the Court is wildly out of step with the country, that's a problem.
This ruling is a problem. The Court is broken. Sotomayor was right. Roberts was right.
The next 10 years in America are going to be very ugly. The oppression of women and minorities has to end.
Very ugly.
Get your feet off our necks.
Anonymous
05/03/2022 07:23
Subject: Re:“We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
The court is self governing and doesn't have rules about this. I am sorry, if one justice can participate in a coup against the country and not hasve to recuse themselves from related cases, then I don't GAF about this.
See how shattering norms and rules works?
I find it difficult to believe SCOTUS has no rules to protect its deliberative process.
I have heard former SCOTUS clerks say they were warned on the first day of the job that leaking opinions would not be tolerated and would end in dismissal and disbarment. So, I do believe they have rules.
Add to that the fact that no opinion has ever been leaked before.
This person needs to be identified immediately and dealt with. This is unacceptable.
So you’re more concerned with the leak than the fact that SCOTUS doing away with right to privacy? Good stuff.
Yes, I actually am. And, they are NOT doing away with the right to privacy if this report is accurate.
They are not even making abortion illegal. They are returning the decision to the people.... to be decided by the state officials elected by the people.
A breach such as this is actually an insurrection on the court. It is appalling and needs to be addressed immediately.
How loudly have you spoken up against the politicization of the court through right wing activist judges, the breech of ethics by Thomas’s wife and Thomas’s failure to recuse himself on issues his wife has been active in?
Anonymous
05/03/2022 07:22
Subject: Re:“We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
The court is self governing and doesn't have rules about this. I am sorry, if one justice can participate in a coup against the country and not hasve to recuse themselves from related cases, then I don't GAF about this.
See how shattering norms and rules works?
I find it difficult to believe SCOTUS has no rules to protect its deliberative process.
I have heard former SCOTUS clerks say they were warned on the first day of the job that leaking opinions would not be tolerated and would end in dismissal and disbarment. So, I do believe they have rules.
Add to that the fact that no opinion has ever been leaked before.
This person needs to be identified immediately and dealt with. This is unacceptable.
So you’re more concerned with the leak than the fact that SCOTUS doing away with right to privacy? Good stuff.
Yes, I actually am. And, they are NOT doing away with the right to privacy if this report is accurate.
They are not even making abortion illegal. They are returning the decision to the people.... to be decided by the state officials elected by the people.
A breach such as this is actually an insurrection on the court. It is appalling and needs to be addressed immediately.
Excellent summary. Exactly correct.
+1
Many people are too emotionally charged over the draft opinion to comprehend what it actually means, and to comprehend the damage that was inflicted upon the court by the leak.
The Court was already damaged.
It’s partisan and impacts the lives of Americans more than Congress does.
So, if the Court had decided (or decides ultimately) to uphold Roe, would you still be saying that it's damaged? Are you only saying this because the Court may issue an opinion with which you disagree?
When the Court is wildly out of step with the country, that's a problem.
This ruling is a problem. The Court is broken. Sotomayor was right. Roberts was right.
+1
The nomination process is broken. Justices openly lie to Congress.
Justices don’t properly recuse themselves.
The court is broken.
Anonymous
05/03/2022 07:22
Subject: Re:“We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
The court is self governing and doesn't have rules about this. I am sorry, if one justice can participate in a coup against the country and not hasve to recuse themselves from related cases, then I don't GAF about this.
See how shattering norms and rules works?
I find it difficult to believe SCOTUS has no rules to protect its deliberative process.
I have heard former SCOTUS clerks say they were warned on the first day of the job that leaking opinions would not be tolerated and would end in dismissal and disbarment. So, I do believe they have rules.
Add to that the fact that no opinion has ever been leaked before.
This person needs to be identified immediately and dealt with. This is unacceptable.
So you’re more concerned with the leak than the fact that SCOTUS doing away with right to privacy? Good stuff.
Yes, I actually am. And, they are NOT doing away with the right to privacy if this report is accurate.
They are not even making abortion illegal. They are returning the decision to the people.... to be decided by the state officials elected by the people.
A breach such as this is actually an insurrection on the court. It is appalling and needs to be addressed immediately.
Excellent summary. Exactly correct.
+1
Many people are too emotionally charged over the draft opinion to comprehend what it actually means, and to comprehend the damage that was inflicted upon the court by the leak.
The Court was already damaged.
It’s partisan and impacts the lives of Americans more than Congress does.
So, if the Court had decided (or decides ultimately) to uphold Roe, would you still be saying that it's damaged? Are you only saying this because the Court may issue an opinion with which you disagree?
When the Court is wildly out of step with the country, that's a problem.
This ruling is a problem. The Court is broken. Sotomayor was right. Roberts was right.
The next 10 years in America are going to be very ugly. The oppression of women and minorities has to end.
Just stop. There is no oppression.
Says the white man….
Anonymous
05/03/2022 07:21
Subject: Re:“We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
The court is self governing and doesn't have rules about this. I am sorry, if one justice can participate in a coup against the country and not hasve to recuse themselves from related cases, then I don't GAF about this.
See how shattering norms and rules works?
I find it difficult to believe SCOTUS has no rules to protect its deliberative process.
I have heard former SCOTUS clerks say they were warned on the first day of the job that leaking opinions would not be tolerated and would end in dismissal and disbarment. So, I do believe they have rules.
Add to that the fact that no opinion has ever been leaked before.
This person needs to be identified immediately and dealt with. This is unacceptable.
So you’re more concerned with the leak than the fact that SCOTUS doing away with right to privacy? Good stuff.
Yes, I actually am. And, they are NOT doing away with the right to privacy if this report is accurate.
They are not even making abortion illegal. They are returning the decision to the people.... to be decided by the state officials elected by the people.
A breach such as this is actually an insurrection on the court. It is appalling and needs to be addressed immediately.
Excellent summary. Exactly correct.
+1
Many people are too emotionally charged over the draft opinion to comprehend what it actually means, and to comprehend the damage that was inflicted upon the court by the leak.
The Court was already damaged.
It’s partisan and impacts the lives of Americans more than Congress does.
So, if the Court had decided (or decides ultimately) to uphold Roe, would you still be saying that it's damaged? Are you only saying this because the Court may issue an opinion with which you disagree?
When the Court is wildly out of step with the country, that's a problem.
This ruling is a problem. The Court is broken. Sotomayor was right. Roberts was right.
The next 10 years in America are going to be very ugly. The oppression of women and minorities has to end.
Just stop. There is no oppression.
Anonymous
05/03/2022 07:20
Subject: Re:“We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
The court is self governing and doesn't have rules about this. I am sorry, if one justice can participate in a coup against the country and not hasve to recuse themselves from related cases, then I don't GAF about this.
See how shattering norms and rules works?
I find it difficult to believe SCOTUS has no rules to protect its deliberative process.
I have heard former SCOTUS clerks say they were warned on the first day of the job that leaking opinions would not be tolerated and would end in dismissal and disbarment. So, I do believe they have rules.
Add to that the fact that no opinion has ever been leaked before.
This person needs to be identified immediately and dealt with. This is unacceptable.
So you’re more concerned with the leak than the fact that SCOTUS doing away with right to privacy? Good stuff.
Yes, I actually am. And, they are NOT doing away with the right to privacy if this report is accurate.
They are not even making abortion illegal. They are returning the decision to the people.... to be decided by the state officials elected by the people.
A breach such as this is actually an insurrection on the court. It is appalling and needs to be addressed immediately.
Excellent summary. Exactly correct.
+1
Many people are too emotionally charged over the draft opinion to comprehend what it actually means, and to comprehend the damage that was inflicted upon the court by the leak.
The Court was already damaged.
It’s partisan and impacts the lives of Americans more than Congress does.
So, if the Court had decided (or decides ultimately) to uphold Roe, would you still be saying that it's damaged? Are you only saying this because the Court may issue an opinion with which you disagree?
When the Court is wildly out of step with the country, that's a problem.
This ruling is a problem. The Court is broken. Sotomayor was right. Roberts was right.
The next 10 years in America are going to be very ugly. The oppression of women and minorities has to end.
Anonymous
05/03/2022 07:18
Subject: Re:“We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
then goodbye HIPAA.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
The court is self governing and doesn't have rules about this. I am sorry, if one justice can participate in a coup against the country and not hasve to recuse themselves from related cases, then I don't GAF about this.
See how shattering norms and rules works?
I find it difficult to believe SCOTUS has no rules to protect its deliberative process.
I have heard former SCOTUS clerks say they were warned on the first day of the job that leaking opinions would not be tolerated and would end in dismissal and disbarment. So, I do believe they have rules.
Add to that the fact that no opinion has ever been leaked before.
This person needs to be identified immediately and dealt with. This is unacceptable.
So you’re more concerned with the leak than the fact that SCOTUS doing away with right to privacy? Good stuff.
Yes, I actually am. And, they are NOT doing away with the right to privacy if this report is accurate.
They are not even making abortion illegal. They are returning the decision to the people.... to be decided by the state officials elected by the people.
A breach such as this is actually an insurrection on the court. It is appalling and needs to be addressed immediately.
Wow, did you come up with that yourself? It’s privacy:
Anonymous
05/03/2022 07:17
Subject: Re:“We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
The court is self governing and doesn't have rules about this. I am sorry, if one justice can participate in a coup against the country and not hasve to recuse themselves from related cases, then I don't GAF about this.
See how shattering norms and rules works?
I find it difficult to believe SCOTUS has no rules to protect its deliberative process.
I have heard former SCOTUS clerks say they were warned on the first day of the job that leaking opinions would not be tolerated and would end in dismissal and disbarment. So, I do believe they have rules.
Add to that the fact that no opinion has ever been leaked before.
This person needs to be identified immediately and dealt with. This is unacceptable.
So you’re more concerned with the leak than the fact that SCOTUS doing away with right to privacy? Good stuff.
Yes, I actually am. And, they are NOT doing away with the right to privacy if this report is accurate.
They are not even making abortion illegal. They are returning the decision to the people.... to be decided by the state officials elected by the people.
A breach such as this is actually an insurrection on the court. It is appalling and needs to be addressed immediately.
Excellent summary. Exactly correct.
+1
Many people are too emotionally charged over the draft opinion to comprehend what it actually means, and to comprehend the damage that was inflicted upon the court by the leak.
The Court was already damaged.
It’s partisan and impacts the lives of Americans more than Congress does.
So, if the Court had decided (or decides ultimately) to uphold Roe, would you still be saying that it's damaged? Are you only saying this because the Court may issue an opinion with which you disagree?
When the Court is wildly out of step with the country, that's a problem.
This ruling is a problem. The Court is broken. Sotomayor was right. Roberts was right.
Anonymous
05/03/2022 07:17
Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Here's what an America without Roe will look like.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/05/upshot/abortion-without-roe-wade.html?fbclid=IwAR0y91eQGNT6PDe3p6m7HGvhcmH-CsfyTlgYg4pSoddiJJSlyQ6NsehlvZA
Here are the clinics that would close immediately due to trigger laws.
Very likely that trigger laws ban IVF in at least a dozen states this summer:
One of the legislative initiatives that has been undertaken by several states is a statute creating a trigger ban on abortion, wherein the Supreme Court striking down Roe would immediately result in an automatic complete abortion ban statewide.2 So far, twelve states3 have passed such trigger bans, and several other states are poised to follow and ban abortion entirely, should Roe be overturned.4 These trigger bans could have far-reaching, unintended (or perhaps completely intended) consequences not only for pregnant people, but also for those trying to prevent pregnancy through common methods such as birth control or the “morning after” pill.5 Additionally, the trigger bans may have significant impacts on those pursuing in vitro fertilization (IVF), as well as on the providers of such services.6
https://www.law.georgetown.edu/gender-journal/abortion-trigger-ban-statutes-impacts-on-plan-b-birth-control-and-ivf-treatments/
Good bye, IVF.
Wonder how white republicans women feel about this
Maybe plan on having kids earlier?
Many of us did. Our bodies didn’t cooperate. Thank goodness IVF was available to me.
Anonymous
05/03/2022 07:17
Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Here's what an America without Roe will look like.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/05/upshot/abortion-without-roe-wade.html?fbclid=IwAR0y91eQGNT6PDe3p6m7HGvhcmH-CsfyTlgYg4pSoddiJJSlyQ6NsehlvZA
Here are the clinics that would close immediately due to trigger laws.
Very likely that trigger laws ban IVF in at least a dozen states this summer:
One of the legislative initiatives that has been undertaken by several states is a statute creating a trigger ban on abortion, wherein the Supreme Court striking down Roe would immediately result in an automatic complete abortion ban statewide.2 So far, twelve states3 have passed such trigger bans, and several other states are poised to follow and ban abortion entirely, should Roe be overturned.4 These trigger bans could have far-reaching, unintended (or perhaps completely intended) consequences not only for pregnant people, but also for those trying to prevent pregnancy through common methods such as birth control or the “morning after” pill.5 Additionally, the trigger bans may have significant impacts on those pursuing in vitro fertilization (IVF), as well as on the providers of such services.6
https://www.law.georgetown.edu/gender-journal/abortion-trigger-ban-statutes-impacts-on-plan-b-birth-control-and-ivf-treatments/
Good bye, IVF.
Wonder how white republicans women feel about this
We feel as if you are being hysterical and fear mongering. Because, that is exactly what you are doing.
Really?
https://www.law.georgetown.edu/gender-journal/abortion-trigger-ban-statutes-impacts-on-plan-b-birth-control-and-ivf-treatments/
Leave it to someone at Georgetown Law to opine on what *might* happen.
Did you read the piece? Did you see all the "could" and "might" and "could be possible?"
Anonymous
05/03/2022 07:16
Subject: Re:“We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
The court is self governing and doesn't have rules about this. I am sorry, if one justice can participate in a coup against the country and not hasve to recuse themselves from related cases, then I don't GAF about this.
See how shattering norms and rules works?
I find it difficult to believe SCOTUS has no rules to protect its deliberative process.
I have heard former SCOTUS clerks say they were warned on the first day of the job that leaking opinions would not be tolerated and would end in dismissal and disbarment. So, I do believe they have rules.
Add to that the fact that no opinion has ever been leaked before.
This person needs to be identified immediately and dealt with. This is unacceptable.
So you’re more concerned with the leak than the fact that SCOTUS doing away with right to privacy? Good stuff.
Yes, I actually am. And, they are NOT doing away with the right to privacy if this report is accurate.
They are not even making abortion illegal. They are returning the decision to the people.... to be decided by the state officials elected by the people.
A breach such as this is actually an insurrection on the court. It is appalling and needs to be addressed immediately.
Wow, did you come up with that yourself? It’s privacy:
You mean like trying to force a vaccine card? Where was the right to privacy then?
That's public health. We've had that before there was a country.
Read more before posting.
Anonymous
05/03/2022 07:15
Subject: Re:“We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Are any protests or marches being planned? I feel ill- I want to do something productive.