Anonymous wrote:Where are all the democrats and liberals who worry about the poor? The working poor, who are being decimated by gas prices? It is not a lofty policy discussion for those people. It’s their life and financial survival being destroyed by inflation, food and gas prices, etc. Every discussion here attacks republicans for not caring for poor families, except this one.

Subsidizing oil companies doesn’t do anything for poor people. Public transit, higher minimum wage, childcare assistance, housing assistance, TANF, and a dozen other programs help the working poor.

We are going to play whack-a-mole and cut off Russian oil but buy oil from Venezuela again. Extraction economies are inherently corrupt kleptocracies.

Where are all the democrats and liberals who worry about the poor? The working poor, who are being decimated by gas prices? It is not a lofty policy discussion for those people. It’s their life and financial survival being destroyed by inflation, food and gas prices, etc. Every discussion here attacks republicans for not caring for poor families, except this one.

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Anonymous wrote:This is a good reason to promote continued remote work. Cities need to pivot to housing not office space.

This is the answer, right here.

I feel seen. But no one who matters is listening. Heads completely in the sand, pandering to mayors who want that revenue back. Mayors should tax commuters to make up for shortfalls, and provide things that make cities nice to live in. We should NOT be pushing people to go back to our previous carbon heavy foot prints.

Sigh.

Agreed, but it is all about control, stature and the inability for most in charge to actually lead and mange based on output and process vs. fear and control. The most talented information workers will demand to work remote and will work for companies that enable and embrace that. Those companies will prosper, while the old guard slowly withers and dies. Meanwhile, factories and manufacturing and logistics will be automated via robotics more and more, severely denting the blue collar worker crowd. Parents should really push their kids towards the jobs of the future and embrace remote working technologies. The world is changing, be prepared. This is not a zero sum game however. There will always be a need for scientists to go into labs and childcare and teaching in person, retail/food, etc. plenty of needs there for on location / in person work. But information workers, much engineering, and manufacturing will be remote and/or automated.

Meanwhile many of the rare earth metals used to construct EV are exploding. Nickel alone is at an all time high. EV maybe the solution for the 1%, but not the rest of America.

Thanks Brandon!

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is a good reason to promote continued remote work. Cities need to pivot to housing not office space.

This is the answer, right here.

I feel seen. But no one who matters is listening. Heads completely in the sand, pandering to mayors who want that revenue back. Mayors should tax commuters to make up for shortfalls, and provide things that make cities nice to live in. We should NOT be pushing people to go back to our previous carbon heavy foot prints.

Sigh.

We could not regress, PPs, even if we wanted to. There is strong popular support for renewables, particularly in the light of immense wildfires, intense tornadoes, relentless flooding, and all manifestations of climate change. However we are still in its infancy and very far away from separating ourselves from our more polluting energy dependency.

We need to respond IMMEDIATELY to the current oil prices. We have no choice. The USA just declared they would ban Russian imports, including oil and gas. In doing so, it places greater pressure on Europe to find alternatives solutions to its intractable energy problem, and places us that much closer to choking the Russian economic machine. To stabilize and reassure fickle markets, we also need to announce more domestic production. Please don't see this as a step backward. The entire world is on its way renewables. This is a complement. It will last while it can.

There are no such thing as “renewables”. Solar and wind power require the mining of silicon and rare earth minerals for photovoltaic cells and windmill batteries. Nuclear power requires the mining of uranium. Electric vehicles require the mining of lithium for batteries. Biomass fuels require massive amounts of land and soil. Every energy-producing raw material on the face of this miserable planet is FINITE. Sooner or later, it will all run out.

The minerals used in solar etc can be reused. Oil just burns. And warms our climate.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is a good reason to promote continued remote work. Cities need to pivot to housing not office space.

This is the answer, right here.

I feel seen. But no one who matters is listening. Heads completely in the sand, pandering to mayors who want that revenue back. Mayors should tax commuters to make up for shortfalls, and provide things that make cities nice to live in. We should NOT be pushing people to go back to our previous carbon heavy foot prints.

Sigh.

We could not regress, PPs, even if we wanted to. There is strong popular support for renewables, particularly in the light of immense wildfires, intense tornadoes, relentless flooding, and all manifestations of climate change. However we are still in its infancy and very far away from separating ourselves from our more polluting energy dependency.

We need to respond IMMEDIATELY to the current oil prices. We have no choice. The USA just declared they would ban Russian imports, including oil and gas. In doing so, it places greater pressure on Europe to find alternatives solutions to its intractable energy problem, and places us that much closer to choking the Russian economic machine. To stabilize and reassure fickle markets, we also need to announce more domestic production. Please don't see this as a step backward. The entire world is on its way renewables. This is a complement. It will last while it can.

There are no such thing as “renewables”. Solar and wind power require the mining of silicon and rare earth minerals for photovoltaic cells and windmill batteries. Nuclear power requires the mining of uranium. Electric vehicles require the mining of lithium for batteries. Biomass fuels require massive amounts of land and soil. Every energy-producing raw material on the face of this miserable planet is FINITE. Sooner or later, it will all run out.

I delight in these high gas prices because I know dems will be paying for them in November. I hope they hit $10/gal

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Anonymous wrote:More reason why we need to be energy independent

We ARE energy independent

Really? We import about 65% of our oil. The following ten countries are those that the U.S. imports the most oil from per day based on April 2020 numbers. Numbers are in thousands of barrels.

Canada (4,088)
Mexico (631)
Saudi Arabia (431)
Russia (408)
Colombia (277)
Ecuador (176)
Iraq (140)
South Korea (133)
Brazil (104)
The Netherlands (93)

We produce more than we use. Did you intentionally choose to ignore the export numbers? Is there some reason you are trying to change the definition in the middle of your own argument? And why are you using April 2020 numbers? That is the exact point in time that domestic production got trashed and prices were negative.

What people might not know is that a lot of imports are to MIX oil so that it's the right grade for our refineries. So we send light oil to Canada so they can mix it with their denser oil, and they send it back to us. In net calculations, our Canadian imports are barely positive.

This complicates the picture in that it's not just the volume of oil we have to consider, but the qualities of each type of oil from each provenance and how we can use it.

It costs money to adjust our ancient refineries, so it's been easier to mix different provenances of oil prior to refining, even though it might involve a veritable ballet of tankers or pipelines criss-crossing the globe.

Anyway. Just saying... it's not so simple.

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Anonymous wrote:More reason why we need to be energy independent

We ARE energy independent

Really? We import about 65% of our oil. The following ten countries are those that the U.S. imports the most oil from per day based on April 2020 numbers. Numbers are in thousands of barrels.

Canada (4,088)
Mexico (631)
Saudi Arabia (431)
Russia (408)
Colombia (277)
Ecuador (176)
Iraq (140)
South Korea (133)
Brazil (104)
The Netherlands (93)

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is a good reason to promote continued remote work. Cities need to pivot to housing not office space.

This is the answer, right here.

I feel seen. But no one who matters is listening. Heads completely in the sand, pandering to mayors who want that revenue back. Mayors should tax commuters to make up for shortfalls, and provide things that make cities nice to live in. We should NOT be pushing people to go back to our previous carbon heavy foot prints.

Sigh.

We could not regress, PPs, even if we wanted to. There is strong popular support for renewables, particularly in the light of immense wildfires, intense tornadoes, relentless flooding, and all manifestations of climate change. However we are still in its infancy and very far away from separating ourselves from our more polluting energy dependency.

We need to respond IMMEDIATELY to the current oil prices. We have no choice. The USA just declared they would ban Russian imports, including oil and gas. In doing so, it places greater pressure on Europe to find alternatives solutions to its intractable energy problem, and places us that much closer to choking the Russian economic machine. To stabilize and reassure fickle markets, we also need to announce more domestic production. Please don't see this as a step backward. The entire world is on its way renewables. This is a complement. It will last while it can.

I haven't read the entire thread, but fuel prices are the least of my concerns when it comes to prices that are about to go up. Cars are so efficient today and the majority of people are driving them.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is a good reason to promote continued remote work. Cities need to pivot to housing not office space.

This is the answer, right here.

I feel seen. But no one who matters is listening. Heads completely in the sand, pandering to mayors who want that revenue back. Mayors should tax commuters to make up for shortfalls, and provide things that make cities nice to live in. We should NOT be pushing people to go back to our previous carbon heavy foot prints.

Sigh.

Anonymous wrote:More reason why we need to be energy independent

We ARE energy independent