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Anonymous wrote:Most College coaches don’t have a bloody clue how to recruit. Rarely do even half their recruits make it all 4 years and the same teams see success while the others continue to fail year after year.

Sounds like the new Pride line to keep those checks coming in after their recruiting failures….

Truth.

I’m the original author of the first Capital Blue comment.
I don’t know/don’t have time to read back about the Pride vs Cap Blue drama is all about.
All I meant is that the Cap Blue I just kind of a basic team. They are not really that special. My daughter plays for a big 5 team and we are from Baltimore. She is a23 so we have met some players on invitational/special teams in the past. They were nice, but like many of the players from outside the state(I mean way outside, not just over the border) that come to play and compete in Maryland, they’re just wannabes. You can practice twizzlers all you want but until you play against real defense or fast middies, you shouldn’t brag so much.

Cap 23 Blue beat Heros (multiple times), played competitively against the top NY / CT teams, and is sending players to Princeton, Brown, Harvard, Columbia, Hopkins, UVA, Northwestern, Georgetown, Michigan … and on and on. The list of Cap Blue 23 commits is just as strong (if not stronger) than any MD 23 team. The coaches who recruited them didn’t do so because they’re “nice” girls. They didn’t recruit them because the Cap 23s were “marketed well.” These coaches selected these kids because they believe these players can help them win. That’s their job; at the D1 level, coaches who don’t win are usually fired. The list of Cap 23 Blue commits is proof these kids can hang with any team in the country.

Well the coaches at Georgetown, Brown, UVA, Hopkins (retiring after this year), and Harvard (still pretty new) have not done much winning in years so should have already lost their jobs- why haven’t they? At a minimum Georgetown and Brown coaches should have got the boot years ago. They can’t recruit for crap and their ‘22 and ‘23 recruits are likely to be a disaster. UVA may get better. Harvard and Columbia may have new coaches but they are going to continue to lose. Writings on the wall but the coaches seem to hold onto their jobs anyway.

Any player would dream of playing at any one of these schools.

Well of course but that’s not the topic. The topic is that only players who can help a team win get recruited because losing teams get coaches fired. That should be true but it’s pretty obvious it isn’t. These losing teams in some cases have had same coach for over a decade. Clearly there are lots of college coaches who are crap recruiters. Proof is in the w-l records.

Of course those schools have their choice of recruits but make bad picks year after year after year.

You incorrectly assume the top academic schools can recruit any kid they want. They can’t. They have extremely high GPA and testing requirements not every player can meet. Ivies can’t offer scholarships — that weeds out a ton of kids looking for money. It’s still an unbelievably competitive environment, but to say these programs can get any kid they want just isn’t true.

Can someone clarify, Ivy does not offer scholarships, but don't they offer financial aid, as in, a kid from a 250K household pays less than the kid from a 500K household?

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Anonymous wrote:Most College coaches don’t have a bloody clue how to recruit. Rarely do even half their recruits make it all 4 years and the same teams see success while the others continue to fail year after year.

Sounds like the new Pride line to keep those checks coming in after their recruiting failures….

Truth.

I’m the original author of the first Capital Blue comment.
I don’t know/don’t have time to read back about the Pride vs Cap Blue drama is all about.
All I meant is that the Cap Blue I just kind of a basic team. They are not really that special. My daughter plays for a big 5 team and we are from Baltimore. She is a23 so we have met some players on invitational/special teams in the past. They were nice, but like many of the players from outside the state(I mean way outside, not just over the border) that come to play and compete in Maryland, they’re just wannabes. You can practice twizzlers all you want but until you play against real defense or fast middies, you shouldn’t brag so much.

Cap 23 Blue beat Heros (multiple times), played competitively against the top NY / CT teams, and is sending players to Princeton, Brown, Harvard, Columbia, Hopkins, UVA, Northwestern, Georgetown, Michigan … and on and on. The list of Cap Blue 23 commits is just as strong (if not stronger) than any MD 23 team. The coaches who recruited them didn’t do so because they’re “nice” girls. They didn’t recruit them because the Cap 23s were “marketed well.” These coaches selected these kids because they believe these players can help them win. That’s their job; at the D1 level, coaches who don’t win are usually fired. The list of Cap 23 Blue commits is proof these kids can hang with any team in the country.

Well the coaches at Georgetown, Brown, UVA, Hopkins (retiring after this year), and Harvard (still pretty new) have not done much winning in years so should have already lost their jobs- why haven’t they? At a minimum Georgetown and Brown coaches should have got the boot years ago. They can’t recruit for crap and their ‘22 and ‘23 recruits are likely to be a disaster. UVA may get better. Harvard and Columbia may have new coaches but they are going to continue to lose. Writings on the wall but the coaches seem to hold onto their jobs anyway.

Any player would dream of playing at any one of these schools.

Well of course but that’s not the topic. The topic is that only players who can help a team win get recruited because losing teams get coaches fired. That should be true but it’s pretty obvious it isn’t. These losing teams in some cases have had same coach for over a decade. Clearly there are lots of college coaches who are crap recruiters. Proof is in the w-l records.

Of course those schools have their choice of recruits but make bad picks year after year after year.

You incorrectly assume the top academic schools can recruit any kid they want. They can’t. They have extremely high GPA and testing requirements not every player can meet. Ivies can’t offer scholarships — that weeds out a ton of kids looking for money. It’s still an unbelievably competitive environment, but to say these programs can get any kid they want just isn’t true.

Nit pick all you want. Lots of kids they can recruit and don’t. Princeton and UPenn do well enough. Plus Georgetown isn’t an Ivy nor Hopkins, Michigan, UVA. Yet those coaches have made bad recruiting decisions over many years and kept their job. Point is no matter how bad these coaches are at recruiting they never get called on it. Fried is the perfect example.

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Anonymous wrote:Most College coaches don’t have a bloody clue how to recruit. Rarely do even half their recruits make it all 4 years and the same teams see success while the others continue to fail year after year.

Sounds like the new Pride line to keep those checks coming in after their recruiting failures….

Truth.

I’m the original author of the first Capital Blue comment.
I don’t know/don’t have time to read back about the Pride vs Cap Blue drama is all about.
All I meant is that the Cap Blue I just kind of a basic team. They are not really that special. My daughter plays for a big 5 team and we are from Baltimore. She is a23 so we have met some players on invitational/special teams in the past. They were nice, but like many of the players from outside the state(I mean way outside, not just over the border) that come to play and compete in Maryland, they’re just wannabes. You can practice twizzlers all you want but until you play against real defense or fast middies, you shouldn’t brag so much.

Cap 23 Blue beat Heros (multiple times), played competitively against the top NY / CT teams, and is sending players to Princeton, Brown, Harvard, Columbia, Hopkins, UVA, Northwestern, Georgetown, Michigan … and on and on. The list of Cap Blue 23 commits is just as strong (if not stronger) than any MD 23 team. The coaches who recruited them didn’t do so because they’re “nice” girls. They didn’t recruit them because the Cap 23s were “marketed well.” These coaches selected these kids because they believe these players can help them win. That’s their job; at the D1 level, coaches who don’t win are usually fired. The list of Cap 23 Blue commits is proof these kids can hang with any team in the country.

Well the coaches at Georgetown, Brown, UVA, Hopkins (retiring after this year), and Harvard (still pretty new) have not done much winning in years so should have already lost their jobs- why haven’t they? At a minimum Georgetown and Brown coaches should have got the boot years ago. They can’t recruit for crap and their ‘22 and ‘23 recruits are likely to be a disaster. UVA may get better. Harvard and Columbia may have new coaches but they are going to continue to lose. Writings on the wall but the coaches seem to hold onto their jobs anyway.

Any player would dream of playing at any one of these schools.

Well of course but that’s not the topic. The topic is that only players who can help a team win get recruited because losing teams get coaches fired. That should be true but it’s pretty obvious it isn’t. These losing teams in some cases have had same coach for over a decade. Clearly there are lots of college coaches who are crap recruiters. Proof is in the w-l records.

Of course those schools have their choice of recruits but make bad picks year after year after year.

You incorrectly assume the top academic schools can recruit any kid they want. They can’t. They have extremely high GPA and testing requirements not every player can meet. Ivies can’t offer scholarships — that weeds out a ton of kids looking for money. It’s still an unbelievably competitive environment, but to say these programs can get any kid they want just isn’t true.

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Anonymous wrote:Most College coaches don’t have a bloody clue how to recruit. Rarely do even half their recruits make it all 4 years and the same teams see success while the others continue to fail year after year.

Sounds like the new Pride line to keep those checks coming in after their recruiting failures….

Truth.

I’m the original author of the first Capital Blue comment.
I don’t know/don’t have time to read back about the Pride vs Cap Blue drama is all about.
All I meant is that the Cap Blue I just kind of a basic team. They are not really that special. My daughter plays for a big 5 team and we are from Baltimore. She is a23 so we have met some players on invitational/special teams in the past. They were nice, but like many of the players from outside the state(I mean way outside, not just over the border) that come to play and compete in Maryland, they’re just wannabes. You can practice twizzlers all you want but until you play against real defense or fast middies, you shouldn’t brag so much.

Cap 23 Blue beat Heros (multiple times), played competitively against the top NY / CT teams, and is sending players to Princeton, Brown, Harvard, Columbia, Hopkins, UVA, Northwestern, Georgetown, Michigan … and on and on. The list of Cap Blue 23 commits is just as strong (if not stronger) than any MD 23 team. The coaches who recruited them didn’t do so because they’re “nice” girls. They didn’t recruit them because the Cap 23s were “marketed well.” These coaches selected these kids because they believe these players can help them win. That’s their job; at the D1 level, coaches who don’t win are usually fired. The list of Cap 23 Blue commits is proof these kids can hang with any team in the country.

Well the coaches at Georgetown, Brown, UVA, Hopkins (retiring after this year), and Harvard (still pretty new) have not done much winning in years so should have already lost their jobs- why haven’t they? At a minimum Georgetown and Brown coaches should have got the boot years ago. They can’t recruit for crap and their ‘22 and ‘23 recruits are likely to be a disaster. UVA may get better. Harvard and Columbia may have new coaches but they are going to continue to lose. Writings on the wall but the coaches seem to hold onto their jobs anyway.

Any player would dream of playing at any one of these schools.

Well of course but that’s not the topic. The topic is that only players who can help a team win get recruited because losing teams get coaches fired. That should be true but it’s pretty obvious it isn’t. These losing teams in some cases have had same coach for over a decade. Clearly there are lots of college coaches who are crap recruiters. Proof is in the w-l records.

Of course those schools have their choice of recruits but make bad picks year after year after year.

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Anonymous wrote:Most College coaches don’t have a bloody clue how to recruit. Rarely do even half their recruits make it all 4 years and the same teams see success while the others continue to fail year after year.

Sounds like the new Pride line to keep those checks coming in after their recruiting failures….

Truth.

I’m the original author of the first Capital Blue comment.
I don’t know/don’t have time to read back about the Pride vs Cap Blue drama is all about.
All I meant is that the Cap Blue I just kind of a basic team. They are not really that special. My daughter plays for a big 5 team and we are from Baltimore. She is a23 so we have met some players on invitational/special teams in the past. They were nice, but like many of the players from outside the state(I mean way outside, not just over the border) that come to play and compete in Maryland, they’re just wannabes. You can practice twizzlers all you want but until you play against real defense or fast middies, you shouldn’t brag so much.

Cap 23 Blue beat Heros (multiple times), played competitively against the top NY / CT teams, and is sending players to Princeton, Brown, Harvard, Columbia, Hopkins, UVA, Northwestern, Georgetown, Michigan … and on and on. The list of Cap Blue 23 commits is just as strong (if not stronger) than any MD 23 team. The coaches who recruited them didn’t do so because they’re “nice” girls. They didn’t recruit them because the Cap 23s were “marketed well.” These coaches selected these kids because they believe these players can help them win. That’s their job; at the D1 level, coaches who don’t win are usually fired. The list of Cap 23 Blue commits is proof these kids can hang with any team in the country.

Well the coaches at Georgetown, Brown, UVA, Hopkins (retiring after this year), and Harvard (still pretty new) have not done much winning in years so should have already lost their jobs- why haven’t they? At a minimum Georgetown and Brown coaches should have got the boot years ago. They can’t recruit for crap and their ‘22 and ‘23 recruits are likely to be a disaster. UVA may get better. Harvard and Columbia may have new coaches but they are going to continue to lose. Writings on the wall but the coaches seem to hold onto their jobs anyway.

Any player would dream of playing at any one of these schools.

Well of course but that’s not the topic. The topic is that only players who can help a team win get recruited because losing teams get coaches fired. That should be true but it’s pretty obvious it isn’t. These losing teams in some cases have had same coach for over a decade. Clearly there are lots of college coaches who are crap recruiters. Proof is in the w-l records.

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Anonymous wrote:Most College coaches don’t have a bloody clue how to recruit. Rarely do even half their recruits make it all 4 years and the same teams see success while the others continue to fail year after year.

Sounds like the new Pride line to keep those checks coming in after their recruiting failures….

Truth.

I’m the original author of the first Capital Blue comment.
I don’t know/don’t have time to read back about the Pride vs Cap Blue drama is all about.
All I meant is that the Cap Blue I just kind of a basic team. They are not really that special. My daughter plays for a big 5 team and we are from Baltimore. She is a23 so we have met some players on invitational/special teams in the past. They were nice, but like many of the players from outside the state(I mean way outside, not just over the border) that come to play and compete in Maryland, they’re just wannabes. You can practice twizzlers all you want but until you play against real defense or fast middies, you shouldn’t brag so much.

Cap 23 Blue beat Heros (multiple times), played competitively against the top NY / CT teams, and is sending players to Princeton, Brown, Harvard, Columbia, Hopkins, UVA, Northwestern, Georgetown, Michigan … and on and on. The list of Cap Blue 23 commits is just as strong (if not stronger) than any MD 23 team. The coaches who recruited them didn’t do so because they’re “nice” girls. They didn’t recruit them because the Cap 23s were “marketed well.” These coaches selected these kids because they believe these players can help them win. That’s their job; at the D1 level, coaches who don’t win are usually fired. The list of Cap 23 Blue commits is proof these kids can hang with any team in the country.

Well the coaches at Georgetown, Brown, UVA, Hopkins (retiring after this year), and Harvard (still pretty new) have not done much winning in years so should have already lost their jobs- why haven’t they? At a minimum Georgetown and Brown coaches should have got the boot years ago. They can’t recruit for crap and their ‘22 and ‘23 recruits are likely to be a disaster. UVA may get better. Harvard and Columbia may have new coaches but they are going to continue to lose. Writings on the wall but the coaches seem to hold onto their jobs anyway.

Any player would dream of playing at any one of these schools.

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Anonymous wrote:Most College coaches don’t have a bloody clue how to recruit. Rarely do even half their recruits make it all 4 years and the same teams see success while the others continue to fail year after year.

Sounds like the new Pride line to keep those checks coming in after their recruiting failures….

Truth.

I’m the original author of the first Capital Blue comment.
I don’t know/don’t have time to read back about the Pride vs Cap Blue drama is all about.
All I meant is that the Cap Blue I just kind of a basic team. They are not really that special. My daughter plays for a big 5 team and we are from Baltimore. She is a23 so we have met some players on invitational/special teams in the past. They were nice, but like many of the players from outside the state(I mean way outside, not just over the border) that come to play and compete in Maryland, they’re just wannabes. You can practice twizzlers all you want but until you play against real defense or fast middies, you shouldn’t brag so much.

Cap 23 Blue beat Heros (multiple times), played competitively against the top NY / CT teams, and is sending players to Princeton, Brown, Harvard, Columbia, Hopkins, UVA, Northwestern, Georgetown, Michigan … and on and on. The list of Cap Blue 23 commits is just as strong (if not stronger) than any MD 23 team. The coaches who recruited them didn’t do so because they’re “nice” girls. They didn’t recruit them because the Cap 23s were “marketed well.” These coaches selected these kids because they believe these players can help them win. That’s their job; at the D1 level, coaches who don’t win are usually fired. The list of Cap 23 Blue commits is proof these kids can hang with any team in the country.

Well the coaches at Georgetown, Brown, UVA, Hopkins (retiring after this year), and Harvard (still pretty new) have not done much winning in years so should have already lost their jobs- why haven’t they? At a minimum Georgetown and Brown coaches should have got the boot years ago. They can’t recruit for crap and their ‘22 and ‘23 recruits are likely to be a disaster. UVA may get better. Harvard and Columbia may have new coaches but they are going to continue to lose. Writings on the wall but the coaches seem to hold onto their jobs anyway.

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Anonymous wrote:Most College coaches don’t have a bloody clue how to recruit. Rarely do even half their recruits make it all 4 years and the same teams see success while the others continue to fail year after year.

Sounds like the new Pride line to keep those checks coming in after their recruiting failures….

Truth.

I’m the original author of the first Capital Blue comment.
I don’t know/don’t have time to read back about the Pride vs Cap Blue drama is all about.
All I meant is that the Cap Blue I just kind of a basic team. They are not really that special. My daughter plays for a big 5 team and we are from Baltimore. She is a23 so we have met some players on invitational/special teams in the past. They were nice, but like many of the players from outside the state(I mean way outside, not just over the border) that come to play and compete in Maryland, they’re just wannabes. You can practice twizzlers all you want but until you play against real defense or fast middies, you shouldn’t brag so much.

Cap 23 Blue beat Heros (multiple times), played competitively against the top NY / CT teams, and is sending players to Princeton, Brown, Harvard, Columbia, Hopkins, UVA, Northwestern, Georgetown, Michigan … and on and on. The list of Cap Blue 23 commits is just as strong (if not stronger) than any MD 23 team. The coaches who recruited them didn’t do so because they’re “nice” girls. They didn’t recruit them because the Cap 23s were “marketed well.” These coaches selected these kids because they believe these players can help them win. That’s their job; at the D1 level, coaches who don’t win are usually fired. The list of Cap 23 Blue commits is proof these kids can hang with any team in the country.

Too funny. Mr. Owings Mills graces us with his lax expertise. Please identify what club team your DD plays for, so we can evaluate the credibility of your comments.

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Anonymous wrote:Most College coaches don’t have a bloody clue how to recruit. Rarely do even half their recruits make it all 4 years and the same teams see success while the others continue to fail year after year.

Sounds like the new Pride line to keep those checks coming in after their recruiting failures….

Truth.

I’m the original author of the first Capital Blue comment.
I don’t know/don’t have time to read back about the Pride vs Cap Blue drama is all about.
All I meant is that the Cap Blue I just kind of a basic team. They are not really that special. My daughter plays for a big 5 team and we are from Baltimore. She is a23 so we have met some players on invitational/special teams in the past. They were nice, but like many of the players from outside the state(I mean way outside, not just over the border) that come to play and compete in Maryland, they’re just wannabes. You can practice twizzlers all you want but until you play against real defense or fast middies, you shouldn’t brag so much.

Don't kid yourself, for the more competitive D3 programs, its just as much a job at those programs as it is in the upper level D1's.

This is exactly why kids who commit to DIII should be commended as well. Often they love their sport, but know themselves well enough to not want the “job” of a D1 program.

Agreed, this is very well said. If you commit to a D1 program you really need to love the school and the sport because it is a job. And there are many other girls in the DMV area, and across the country, who have the talent to play in college but it may not be for them. Your lacrosse skill, your grades, and the type of school you desire all need to line up, and you have to want to have a sport as a job in college so it's a very tough equation to get right. Kudos to those who have committed, and good luck to them.

Well said….

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Anonymous wrote:Sometimes the kids don’t even know?? Playing in college seems like a great idea until your alarm goes off at 5AM and you have to drudge through a dark campus to lift “legs & back” for an hour.

Any club coach who really pays attention can tell you. Same with most hs coaches. You can tell if a kid is truly committed to their sport. It’s very very clear to those who pay attention.

And this is why you have to applaud those kids who recognize this early enough and do not succumb to the expectations of others around them. It's interesting to read how some on this board make the assumption every kid who plays club wants to play in college. And if they don't, there is something wrong with them or their club. College lax is not for everyone and that is okay. Far too often you see kids doing what they think they are supposed to do, either because of clubs or their parents expectations. Lacrosse can provide a great opportunity to attend great schools. But once the shininess of the recruiting and commit process wears off, the players better love the school they chose because they just signed up for a full-time job on top of a full-time class load, and that lacrosse job more than likely will not pay after graduation. Congratulations to all of the girls that have committed. Enjoy the experience you make of it, not what others want you to do.