Anonymous
10/04/2024 10:19
Subject: Fairfax County Double Murder
CB used to work night shifts and work long hours. There’s a post on an au pair group by JPM of her saying that, and saying the dad worked from home, in the basement, and would often go upstairs to give opinions on what she was doing w the kid.
That was months before she arrived, hence why she’s not talking about him in a sweet manner.
3 months before the fact, she posted saying the mom didn’t pay attention to the kid at all, she had two days off and would still put JPM to work. She mentioned the kid alls her ‘mom’ and says she “wants a different mommy”.
I wonder how much of this is real and how much is part of her fantasy/delusion of her taking CB’s place
2 months before the fact, she commented in another post saying her host dad was an example of a father, way better than most moms out there.
At some point in between there’s a comment from her on a post talking about lingeries and how to surprise their boyfriends. She gave details on how she would dress up and that her “lindo” (nickname she used for BB) would always drive w a hand on her leg and would go crazy feeling her lingerie underneath her stockings. She also mentions using the light dimmer to turn the lights down if she was a little shy. Absolutely disgusting.
That was months before she arrived, hence why she’s not talking about him in a sweet manner.
3 months before the fact, she posted saying the mom didn’t pay attention to the kid at all, she had two days off and would still put JPM to work. She mentioned the kid alls her ‘mom’ and says she “wants a different mommy”.
I wonder how much of this is real and how much is part of her fantasy/delusion of her taking CB’s place
2 months before the fact, she commented in another post saying her host dad was an example of a father, way better than most moms out there.
At some point in between there’s a comment from her on a post talking about lingeries and how to surprise their boyfriends. She gave details on how she would dress up and that her “lindo” (nickname she used for BB) would always drive w a hand on her leg and would go crazy feeling her lingerie underneath her stockings. She also mentions using the light dimmer to turn the lights down if she was a little shy. Absolutely disgusting.
Anonymous
10/04/2024 08:59
Subject: Fairfax County Double Murder
What about those families who only put their pets on the Christmas cards? Future divorce followed by mass killing spree?
Anonymous
10/04/2024 07:09
Subject: Fairfax County Double Murder
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I’m just saying that on that first day of the murder I posted on the closed thread that it’s weird when families only post their kid on their Christmas card and so many people said that was BS and that they were a loving family… but Sometimes when it smells like BS, it is BS!
Oh man, we only put our kids on our xmas card (they're cuter than DH and I)!
Honestly, most of the cards we receive are just the kids and not the parents....
Agree. Who wants to see adults on a Christmas card? Kids change from year to year- it’s fun to see how they’ve grown, especially if you don’t live close by. And yes, most kids are tons cuter than their parents.
Going off on a rando personal tangent on a thread about 2 brutal premeditated murders is a touch narcy too, perhaps...
It's definitely a sign of an unhappy family in SOME cases. Another sign was his FB page that had photo of him and his dog...no family. Before you say maybe they didn't want that public- Christine's profiles are all public and have pics of their child.
You are really reaching here, to the point of sounding ridiculous. Lots of people only put their kids on their Christmas cards- in some cultures, it would be considered vain to send out a picture of yourself, but kids are okay because they’re growing and changing every year. A lot of people see Christmas as being about and for children, so their Christmas cards keep the focus on children, not grown adults.
There are lots of reasons to think something was very, very wrong with this guy and his relationship with his wife(and the human race in general with the way he was able to use an innocent man to try to hide his actions), but putting a picture of a child on a Christmas card is not one of them. Please.
+1. Would also say most families I know only put the kids on the Christmas card. Heck sometimes the grandparents put only the grandkids on the Christmas card. I would say those who post photos of their entire family on a Christmas card are more atypical than typical.
That is not my experience at all! Usually the people that don’t include themselves are upset they gained weight or don’t like pictures of themselves.
I liked sending pics of my kids as my extended family didn't get to see them. I always thought it was a little narcicistic to include the adults in pictures. I love Halloween and do my house up inside and out but I don't wear a costume because that's for the kids. It's kind of the same thing to me.
Anonymous
10/03/2024 22:08
Subject: Fairfax County Double Murder
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I’m just saying that on that first day of the murder I posted on the closed thread that it’s weird when families only post their kid on their Christmas card and so many people said that was BS and that they were a loving family… but Sometimes when it smells like BS, it is BS!
Oh man, we only put our kids on our xmas card (they're cuter than DH and I)!
Honestly, most of the cards we receive are just the kids and not the parents....
Agree. Who wants to see adults on a Christmas card? Kids change from year to year- it’s fun to see how they’ve grown, especially if you don’t live close by. And yes, most kids are tons cuter than their parents.
It's definitely a sign of an unhappy family in SOME cases. Another sign was his FB page that had photo of him and his dog...no family. Before you say maybe they didn't want that public- Christine's profiles are all public and have pics of their child.
You are really reaching here, to the point of sounding ridiculous. Lots of people only put their kids on their Christmas cards- in some cultures, it would be considered vain to send out a picture of yourself, but kids are okay because they’re growing and changing every year. A lot of people see Christmas as being about and for children, so their Christmas cards keep the focus on children, not grown adults.
There are lots of reasons to think something was very, very wrong with this guy and his relationship with his wife(and the human race in general with the way he was able to use an innocent man to try to hide his actions), but putting a picture of a child on a Christmas card is not one of them. Please.
+1. Would also say most families I know only put the kids on the Christmas card. Heck sometimes the grandparents put only the grandkids on the Christmas card. I would say those who post photos of their entire family on a Christmas card are more atypical than typical.
That is not my experience at all! Usually the people that don’t include themselves are upset they gained weight or don’t like pictures of themselves.
I liked sending pics of my kids as my extended family didn't get to see them. I always thought it was a little narcicistic to include the adults in pictures. I love Halloween and do my house up inside and out but I don't wear a costume because that's for the kids. It's kind of the same thing to me.
Anonymous
10/03/2024 20:21
Subject: Re:Fairfax County Double Murder
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Really curious what their family dynamic was prior to the incident. It didn't seem like BB and JM were trying to hide their romance even before the murder...
Wonder what they told Christine re: the trip to NY in January, shortly before the killings?
She knew he had cheated for years with many people, it likely was a sad, lonely marriage.
The cover for the trips was that they brought the daughter along too. Juliana was able to say she was going along to experience a new city and take care of her. Brendan would often visit friends during the day. Once the daughter would go to sleep they’d continue the affair at night
To the Fall Out Boy concert??
I thought that was local?
Oh, I see, I think it’s the New York trip where she used the Fall Out Boy song on the real/story.
Anonymous
10/03/2024 19:17
Subject: Re:Fairfax County Double Murder
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Really curious what their family dynamic was prior to the incident. It didn't seem like BB and JM were trying to hide their romance even before the murder...
Wonder what they told Christine re: the trip to NY in January, shortly before the killings?
She knew he had cheated for years with many people, it likely was a sad, lonely marriage.
The cover for the trips was that they brought the daughter along too. Juliana was able to say she was going along to experience a new city and take care of her. Brendan would often visit friends during the day. Once the daughter would go to sleep they’d continue the affair at night
To the Fall Out Boy concert??
I thought that was local?
Anonymous
10/03/2024 19:16
Subject: Re:Fairfax County Double Murder
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Really curious what their family dynamic was prior to the incident. It didn't seem like BB and JM were trying to hide their romance even before the murder...
yea i'm a neighbor who moved in a couple of months before this. i really thought the au pair was the mom at first because she'd be walking with the dude all lovey dovey and shit. they were definitely not hiding their relationship to others in public.
It sounds like CB likely knew about it or maybe had given up on BB given all his prior affairs, but they were still living together....especially with JM posting publicly on social media photos of them together. Were CB and BB starting to talk divorce? Or living separate lives while stlil living together for their daughter?
When the bodies were said to be moved I had wondered if she was not in fact killed in the master but sleeping elsewhere and then moved? Has that been clarified?
Anonymous
10/03/2024 19:15
Subject: Re:Fairfax County Double Murder
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Really curious what their family dynamic was prior to the incident. It didn't seem like BB and JM were trying to hide their romance even before the murder...
yea i'm a neighbor who moved in a couple of months before this. i really thought the au pair was the mom at first because she'd be walking with the dude all lovey dovey and shit. they were definitely not hiding their relationship to others in public.
I wonder if Christine was in denial or really had her self esteem beaten down by his repeated cheating. Why extend Juliana who she was not super fond of, who was jealous of the kid and who was banging BB well before the murders?
Anonymous
10/03/2024 12:55
Subject: Fairfax County Double Murder
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Now we know why JM hasn’t pled. With these facts and planning, the prosecutor will want real jail time. She is a threat to society. At some point they will need to decide how much they need her or whether the other evidence is enough. The goal should be nailing BB.
I believe they have enough physical evidence to find them both guilty. It is not and either or question right now. The prosecution has already stated they will go forward with JM’s trial next month. They are not currently offering her a deal and they will not unless she were to give testimony that damns BBs case, and even if they offer her a deal it wont be time served, she still physically did a progressively fatal shot ending Joe’s life along with BB. They both are guilty and they both will pay for what they have done, no jury alive won’t clearly see their guilt.
I agree with most of what you said. I’d just be surprised if we had any insight into what plea discussions have been had, if any.
Not a lawyer but deal with federal cases. We always hear about the hazards of litigation.
Exactly. Litigation isn’t risk free. It just takes one juror. Could be a crazy person trying to make a name.
A prosecutor could get comfortable giving JM a deal by deporting her and making sure she can never enter the country again.
Anonymous
10/03/2024 12:45
Subject: Fairfax County Double Murder
sorry for double post. computer problems.
Anonymous
10/03/2024 12:42
Subject: Fairfax County Double Murder
I seem to recall in an earlier chat, a reference to a song BB and JM liked to play while working out together. "The last of the real ones", by Fall Out Boy. Given what we now know, the video is quite disturbing/shocking at the end.
Anonymous
10/03/2024 10:40
Subject: Re:Fairfax County Double Murder
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Really curious what their family dynamic was prior to the incident. It didn't seem like BB and JM were trying to hide their romance even before the murder...
yea i'm a neighbor who moved in a couple of months before this. i really thought the au pair was the mom at first because she'd be walking with the dude all lovey dovey and shit. they were definitely not hiding their relationship to others in public.
It sounds like CB likely knew about it or maybe had given up on BB given all his prior affairs, but they were still living together....especially with JM posting publicly on social media photos of them together. Were CB and BB starting to talk divorce? Or living separate lives while stlil living together for their daughter?
Anonymous
10/03/2024 09:35
Subject: Re:Fairfax County Double Murder
Anonymous wrote:Really curious what their family dynamic was prior to the incident. It didn't seem like BB and JM were trying to hide their romance even before the murder...
yea i'm a neighbor who moved in a couple of months before this. i really thought the au pair was the mom at first because she'd be walking with the dude all lovey dovey and shit. they were definitely not hiding their relationship to others in public.
Anonymous
10/03/2024 08:21
Subject: Re:Fairfax County Double Murder
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Really curious what their family dynamic was prior to the incident. It didn't seem like BB and JM were trying to hide their romance even before the murder...
Wonder what they told Christine re: the trip to NY in January, shortly before the killings?
She knew he had cheated for years with many people, it likely was a sad, lonely marriage.
The cover for the trips was that they brought the daughter along too. Juliana was able to say she was going along to experience a new city and take care of her. Brendan would often visit friends during the day. Once the daughter would go to sleep they’d continue the affair at night
To the Fall Out Boy concert??
Anonymous
10/03/2024 08:21
Subject: Fairfax County Double Murder
I seem to recall in an earlier chat, a reference to a song BB and JM liked to play while working out together. "The last of the real ones", by Fall Out Boy. Given what we now know, the video is quite disturbing/shocking at the end.