Anonymous
Post 05/17/2018 20:45     Subject: Private School Lacrosse Thread

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Visi cheating?


What is this? Joke?


I didn't see what this was in reply to but I can bet that Holton wishes they had ordered some stick checks on Monday after they found at least 3 were illegal yesterday. And the refs seem to have missed some Visi players blatant holding shirts while covering Holton - multiple Holton players were frustrated by this. It's too bad they had to play like that.


Four illegal sticks in a 25 minute half is a pattern rather than an anomaly. Not to mention their illegal stick in the Stone Ridge game last Saturday. Shame on the Visitation coaches for permitting this to happen, as it does smack of cheating. Additionally, the coaches should have stepped in before letting their players take pictures of themselves showcasing their four illegal sticks after the game. Very poor form all around. Unfortunately, as per the Washington Post article dated 5/16/18, this illegal stick matter does taint their big win just a tad... (By the way, it was indeed four, not three illegal sticks which was incorrectly stated in the Post article.) Has this been going on all season?
Anonymous
Post 05/17/2018 19:07     Subject: Re:Private School Lacrosse Thread

Are the Bullis kidsvredshirted like prep and Landon. Are kids competeing with much older kids for a position on the team?
Anonymous
Post 05/17/2018 18:09     Subject: Private School Lacrosse Thread

How does one flunk out before the end of the year?
Anonymous
Post 05/17/2018 17:33     Subject: Re:Private School Lacrosse Thread

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
This is a lax board, so back to lax.


I would love to get some debate going on All-IAC...a ton of talent in this league, so who are the top dogs at each position?

[/b]Attack
Epstein-Landon
Shellenberger-Bullis
Schain-Bullis
?
Middy
Geppert-Landon
Muldoon-Prep
?
?
Defense
Sillah-Landon
Rogers-Bullis

FOGO
LSM
G





Agree with the above except that Prep's midfield was weak this year while Attack and D were strong.

Other picks:

[b]Middie:

Meizan- EHS
Shaw- Bullis
Johnson-Landon


Goalie:

Laughlin-Landon
Clark-Prep

Attack:
Fernandez-Prep
Humesten-Prep

Defense:
Fairbanks, Bullis
Lanham-Prep




Yeah but Prep is losing one of these "strong" kids. He flunked out but they let him stay to play out the year. Nice ethics.
Anonymous
Post 05/17/2018 17:31     Subject: Re:Private School Lacrosse Thread

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
This is a lax board, so back to lax.


I would love to get some debate going on All-IAC...a ton of talent in this league, so who are the top dogs at each position?

[/b]Attack
Epstein-Landon
Shellenberger-Bullis
Schain-Bullis
?
Middy
Geppert-Landon
Muldoon-Prep
?
?
Defense
Sillah-Landon
Rogers-Bullis

FOGO
LSM
G





Agree with the above except that Prep's midfield was weak this year while Attack and D were strong.

Other picks:

[b]Middie:

Meizan- EHS
Shaw- Bullis
Johnson-Landon


Goalie:

Laughlin-Landon
Clark-Prep

Attack:
Fernandez-Prep
Humesten-Prep

Defense:
Fairbanks, Bullis
Lanham-Prep




Yeah but Prep is losing one of these "strong" kids. He flunked out but they let him stay to play out the year. Ethical ...?
Anonymous
Post 05/17/2018 17:31     Subject: Re:Private School Lacrosse Thread

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
ahhhh, not so fast. The Episcopal kid brought in by Prep was de-committed from Maryland and thrown out of Episcopal due to drug problems. Bullis is not alone with their win at all cost mentality....


Please don't even think you can put Prep in the same sentence as Bullis when it comes to athletic recruiting or a win at all cost mentality!

Bullis has been aggressively recruiting for football for the past several years. Admitting kids who were asked to leave other IAC schools for academic or disciplinary reasons has become the reputation of Bullis. Your football is notorious for bringing kids in the fall for football season who happen to leave after Christmas break, believe me, I have heard this first hand from several current Bullis families who are not happy.

This year alone, Bullis admitted a kid from another IAC school who left on very "rocky" terms and poached St. Andrews starting goalie. Not to mention somehow convinced the #1 recruit in the country to transfer in from over 2 hours away.

GP will not stoop to your level as they don't need to.


Exactly!

It's a question of scale.

One or two cases are one thing. But wholesale recruiting of kids across a number of sports is yet another.

I admire the creativity and chutzpah of the Bullis strategy. They are trying to make a traditionally unattractive school more attractive.

But the other schools see how this is done and react accordingly. No one is going to elevate Bullis to being a "Rival" no matter how many games they win.

Bullis is selling these people a bill of goods suggesting that it's just like the other IAC schools. It isn't and never has been.

The Bullis strategy may work and attract more and maybe even better applicants. But the already low opinion of the school among the other schools is going to suffer.

This disapproval in and of itself isn't enough to dissuade Bullis from pursuing a strategy that has worked a lot of other places. Build a winning sports program, get exposure and favorable press, improve campus enthusiasm and then increase academic standards. It's the modern day version of the Notre Dame strategy that elevated a small Catholic college in the wilds of Indiana into something better.


Bullis is rising, Prep and Landon are not. This is true academically and athletically. Does any other IAC school have anything close to the STEM resources and other facilities at Bullis?


What a joke. As they all say "Bulis is still Bullis" and it doesn't have the STUDENTS to be a top school. Bullis gets the dumb athletes and rejects from the rest of the IAC.


Hmmm..current commits to Penn, Dartmouth and Navy
Joe Stein (Bullis ‘17) All Academic ACC player this year as Duke freshman

Your story does not match today’s reality

You are living in a cave
Anonymous
Post 05/17/2018 17:00     Subject: Private School Lacrosse Thread

I guess what I find so objectionable from the Bullis defenders is the spin to people who know what the deal really is.
Anonymous
Post 05/17/2018 16:30     Subject: Re:Private School Lacrosse Thread

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
ahhhh, not so fast. The Episcopal kid brought in by Prep was de-committed from Maryland and thrown out of Episcopal due to drug problems. Bullis is not alone with their win at all cost mentality....


Please don't even think you can put Prep in the same sentence as Bullis when it comes to athletic recruiting or a win at all cost mentality!

Bullis has been aggressively recruiting for football for the past several years. Admitting kids who were asked to leave other IAC schools for academic or disciplinary reasons has become the reputation of Bullis. Your football is notorious for bringing kids in the fall for football season who happen to leave after Christmas break, believe me, I have heard this first hand from several current Bullis families who are not happy.

This year alone, Bullis admitted a kid from another IAC school who left on very "rocky" terms and poached St. Andrews starting goalie. Not to mention somehow convinced the #1 recruit in the country to transfer in from over 2 hours away.

GP will not stoop to your level as they don't need to.


Exactly!

It's a question of scale.

One or two cases are one thing. But wholesale recruiting of kids across a number of sports is yet another.

I admire the creativity and chutzpah of the Bullis strategy. They are trying to make a traditionally unattractive school more attractive.

But the other schools see how this is done and react accordingly. No one is going to elevate Bullis to being a "Rival" no matter how many games they win.

Bullis is selling these people a bill of goods suggesting that it's just like the other IAC schools. It isn't and never has been.

The Bullis strategy may work and attract more and maybe even better applicants. But the already low opinion of the school among the other schools is going to suffer.

This disapproval in and of itself isn't enough to dissuade Bullis from pursuing a strategy that has worked a lot of other places. Build a winning sports program, get exposure and favorable press, improve campus enthusiasm and then increase academic standards. It's the modern day version of the Notre Dame strategy that elevated a small Catholic college in the wilds of Indiana into something better.


Bullis is rising, Prep and Landon are not. This is true academically and athletically. Does any other IAC school have anything close to the STEM resources and other facilities at Bullis?


What a joke. As they all say "Bulis is still Bullis" and it doesn't have the STUDENTS to be a top school. Bullis gets the dumb athletes and rejects from the rest of the IAC.
Anonymous
Post 05/17/2018 15:55     Subject: Re:Private School Lacrosse Thread

Anonymous wrote:
Brown
Columbia
Cornell
Dartmouth
Duke
Northwestern
Notre Dame
US Naval Academy
Virginia
Yale



Its 85% of the athletes on this list and when you sprinkle in the Chinese boarding kids living with host families, you will discover this list is very deceiving to the general public.

From,

a Former Bullis Parent who pulled their kids


It all boils down to the kid applying, not the school he attended. There is some but not much help to get into an Ivy for sports..btw the bottom half of all the IAC schools have underwhelming college matriculation, it is tough to get into a top tier school in this era, especially if you are from a large metro
Anonymous
Post 05/17/2018 15:38     Subject: Re:Private School Lacrosse Thread

Brown
Columbia
Cornell
Dartmouth
Duke
Northwestern
Notre Dame
US Naval Academy
Virginia
Yale



Its 85% of the athletes on this list and when you sprinkle in the Chinese boarding kids living with host families, you will discover this list is very deceiving to the general public.

From,

a Former Bullis Parent who pulled their kids
Anonymous
Post 05/17/2018 15:19     Subject: Re:Private School Lacrosse Thread

Anonymous wrote:I will admit that Bullis has increased its athletic programs and it has also created interest in the school. I submit that the academic program must be "good enough" to have students accepted into the following schools. (According to another thread on DCUM.) Though Bullis may not be on the level of St Albans, the academic program is worth a look. This IS NOT the Bullis of the 1980's and 90's.


Below is from Bullis Curriculmn night thread

So many untrue statements made by uninformed posters. Faculty turnover is low, academics are strong but also geared for your child. Bullis seniors have been accepted to the following schools

Brown
Columbia
Cornell
Dartmouth
Duke
Northwestern
Notre Dame
US Naval Academy
Virginia
Yale

A Bullis education can get you into an excellent college.


Apparently it can also get you into:

College of Charleston
Coppin State
Elon
Frostburg State
Florida Southern
High Point
Jackson State
Jacksonville
Roanoke

Anonymous
Post 05/17/2018 15:09     Subject: Re:Private School Lacrosse Thread

Anonymous wrote:I will admit that Bullis has increased its athletic programs and it has also created interest in the school. I submit that the academic program must be "good enough" to have students accepted into the following schools. (According to another thread on DCUM.) Though Bullis may not be on the level of St Albans, the academic program is worth a look. This IS NOT the Bullis of the 1980's and 90's.


Below is from Bullis Curriculmn night thread

So many untrue statements made by uninformed posters. Faculty turnover is low, academics are strong but also geared for your child. Bullis seniors have been accepted to the following schools

Brown
Columbia
Cornell
Dartmouth
Duke
Northwestern
Notre Dame
US Naval Academy
Virginia
Yale

A Bullis education can get you into an excellent college.


That's a better list than SSSA or Episcopal.
Anonymous
Post 05/17/2018 15:09     Subject: Re:Private School Lacrosse Thread

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
ahhhh, not so fast. The Episcopal kid brought in by Prep was de-committed from Maryland and thrown out of Episcopal due to drug problems. Bullis is not alone with their win at all cost mentality....


Please don't even think you can put Prep in the same sentence as Bullis when it comes to athletic recruiting or a win at all cost mentality!

Bullis has been aggressively recruiting for football for the past several years. Admitting kids who were asked to leave other IAC schools for academic or disciplinary reasons has become the reputation of Bullis. Your football is notorious for bringing kids in the fall for football season who happen to leave after Christmas break, believe me, I have heard this first hand from several current Bullis families who are not happy.

This year alone, Bullis admitted a kid from another IAC school who left on very "rocky" terms and poached St. Andrews starting goalie. Not to mention somehow convinced the #1 recruit in the country to transfer in from over 2 hours away.

GP will not stoop to your level as they don't need to.


Exactly!

It's a question of scale.

One or two cases are one thing. But wholesale recruiting of kids across a number of sports is yet another.

I admire the creativity and chutzpah of the Bullis strategy. They are trying to make a traditionally unattractive school more attractive.

But the other schools see how this is done and react accordingly. No one is going to elevate Bullis to being a "Rival" no matter how many games they win.

Bullis is selling these people a bill of goods suggesting that it's just like the other IAC schools. It isn't and never has been.

The Bullis strategy may work and attract more and maybe even better applicants. But the already low opinion of the school among the other schools is going to suffer.

This disapproval in and of itself isn't enough to dissuade Bullis from pursuing a strategy that has worked a lot of other places. Build a winning sports program, get exposure and favorable press, improve campus enthusiasm and then increase academic standards. It's the modern day version of the Notre Dame strategy that elevated a small Catholic college in the wilds of Indiana into something better.


Bullis is rising, Prep and Landon are not. This is true academically and athletically. Does any other IAC school have anything close to the STEM resources and other facilities at Bullis?


When you start from such a low relative level, percentage improvement is easy.
Anonymous
Post 05/17/2018 15:07     Subject: Re:Private School Lacrosse Thread

curriculum
Anonymous
Post 05/17/2018 15:06     Subject: Re:Private School Lacrosse Thread

I will admit that Bullis has increased its athletic programs and it has also created interest in the school. I submit that the academic program must be "good enough" to have students accepted into the following schools. (According to another thread on DCUM.) Though Bullis may not be on the level of St Albans, the academic program is worth a look. This IS NOT the Bullis of the 1980's and 90's.


Below is from Bullis Curriculmn night thread

So many untrue statements made by uninformed posters. Faculty turnover is low, academics are strong but also geared for your child. Bullis seniors have been accepted to the following schools

Brown
Columbia
Cornell
Dartmouth
Duke
Northwestern
Notre Dame
US Naval Academy
Virginia
Yale

A Bullis education can get you into an excellent college.