Anonymous
09/02/2024 18:57
Subject: Gaza war and College Campus Protests
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Better not hear any whining from Jewish people that vote for Harris in the next 4 years.
You get what you vote for.
Why are you singling out Harris voters? You think Trump who has dinner with neo Nazis and champions antisemitic / fascist Proud Boys is found to be better for Jews?
How about you don’t single out Jews, period?
Because they are leftist and liberals just like the hostages. Israelis call the families and hostages traitors and leftists. There already have been attacks against family members in Israel.
On October 16th, a right-wing passerby attacked Eli Albag, the father of an 18-year-old hostage, Liri, while he was at the hostage protest tent in Tel Aviv, calling him a “traitor” and saying, “I hope your daughter dies.” On October 29th, Chen Avigdori, whose wife, Sharon, and daughter Noam are being held hostage, reported that people came to a small daily vigil for the hostages and called the attendees “Nazis” and “Hamas.” A small vigil for the hostages in central Jerusalem on October 12th was violently dispersed by police, who arrested several of the participants. “[The police] came at us with tons and tons of violence—using their hands, pushing, punching,” said one attendee, Felipe, who asked that his last name be withheld for safety reasons. He said the police were shouting “go to Gaza!” as they attacked
https://jewishcurrents.org/hostages-families-fight-to-be-heard
The first poster is one of those people. I think there will be serious violence against the hostage families in Israel soon. The right is armed, believes the families are working against Israel and ready to go. There is very little sympathy for the hostages families in Israel.
Anonymous
09/02/2024 18:53
Subject: Gaza war and College Campus Protests
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Another American brutally murdered by Hamas… And yet we still don’t have American boots on the ground assisting the IDF in their vital mission.
A change in administration cannot come quick enough for our Israeli American population.
You are either Israeli or American. Go fight with your own blood and sons please.
My son moved to Israel and joined the IDF on October 8th, 2024. I have never been prouder of him. He is currently in the front lines making the Hamas pay.
That does not excuse our government’s abandonment of our closest international ally, Jewish people globally, and our own American citizens.
Let’s hope he’s doing what you say he’s doing and not making TikToks wearing stolen red panties.
American citizens should not be fighting in foreign armies. Your son is an Israeli now. We owe him nothing.
We owe Palestinians nothing. They elected a death cult to lead them. Choices have consequences.
Very few of the people alive today voted for Hamas
A majority of Palestines support Hamas. They support a terrorist group that id avowed to kill Jews and eradicate Israel and is a proxy for Iran. Choices have consequences.
The average Palestinian woman in Gaza has more than 6 children. They are obviously very wealthy to afford such large families. They don't need anyone's help. It's like helping Trump or Elon Musk with all their children. Barron Trump didn't vote for Republicans. Doesn't mean I owe Barron Trump anything.
Birth rate in Gaza is 3.38 children per woman. You lying moron.
According to the UN, it was 6.2 per woman in the early 2000s. Which is why there are so many young children in Gaza today. The decline to 3.38 is much more recent, but that's still well above twice the global norm. In any even, Palestinians in Gaza have a lot of children, much, much more than is normal than any other corner of the world.
Anonymous
09/02/2024 18:49
Subject: Gaza war and College Campus Protests
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Another American brutally murdered by Hamas… And yet we still don’t have American boots on the ground assisting the IDF in their vital mission.
A change in administration cannot come quick enough for our Israeli American population.
You are either Israeli or American. Go fight with your own blood and sons please.
My son moved to Israel and joined the IDF on October 8th, 2024. I have never been prouder of him. He is currently in the front lines making the Hamas pay.
That does not excuse our government’s abandonment of our closest international ally, Jewish people globally, and our own American citizens.
Let’s hope he’s doing what you say he’s doing and not making TikToks wearing stolen red panties.
American citizens should not be fighting in foreign armies. Your son is an Israeli now. We owe him nothing.
We owe Palestinians nothing. They elected a death cult to lead them. Choices have consequences.
Very few of the people alive today voted for Hamas
A majority of Palestines support Hamas. They support a terrorist group that id avowed to kill Jews and eradicate Israel and is a proxy for Iran. Choices have consequences.
Hamas never vowed to kill Jews and is in fact on record their problem is with Israel and Jews per se.
There are different voices inside Hamas as it’s a political party. Some support 1967 borders (two state solution), some support 1948 borders (one state solution, no Israel), some want to kill all Jews, some want Jews to go back to their “countries of origin”. Some support hostage taking but no murder, some support murder and no hostages. Some are fine with Israeli sovereignty and statehood but say the Palestinian Authority is the biggest threat to Hamas and thus want to fight/take over leadership of the West Bank to form a Palestinian unity government. Some say Israel’s leadership is the bigger threat than the PLO/PA in the West Bank. Some want Sharia law in the entire Gaza district, some Hamas hire Christian’s and atheists to government positions and don’t care about religious law. Some want a good relationship with the US, some hate the US and do not think there’s any daylight btwn the Us and Israel.
Hamas is not one idea or one person.
Part of the chaos with Hamas besides the general evil and corruption is the disagreements they have with leadership. Sinwar and Haniyeh hated each other. Haniyeh supported a two state solution and became more of a moderate over time. Sinwar is a capital R radical. By killing Haniyeh, Israel kinda helped the worst person ever take over and complete his coup of Hamas
Anonymous
09/02/2024 18:48
Subject: Gaza war and College Campus Protests
Anonymous wrote:Mustafa (not his real name), an anti-Hamas activist in his mid-30s living in Gaza who agreed to speak to The Times of Israel by email on condition of total anonymity, described life in the isolated enclave under the rule of Hamas and the Israeli blockade as an “open-air prison.”
Mustafa said that with over 70% youth unemployment and an average per capita income per day of NIS 20, or $5.5, intermittent access to electricity, and undrinkable tap water, life in the enclave is barely livable for the vast majority of citizens who are not somehow tied to Hamas.
Leaving the Strip requires at least $10,000 to be smuggled out illegally, with high chances of dying on the way to freedom, he added. This is all because “Gazan civilians are exploited as a pawn in a struggle between regional forces, and Hamas uses its citizens as human shields to defend its project of ‘Islamic resistance’ while it silences and threatens to kill any opposition,” he continued.
A professional who describes himself as a “liberal and a democrat” interested in “humanitarian issues and free citizenship,” Mustafa estimated that the current wave of demonstrations has only just begun, since in his view the protesters’ demands are not limited to electricity, but aimed at ultimately overthrowing “the military regime and the rule of the clerics.”
With regard to relations with the neighboring Jewish state, Mustafa expressed his wish for a Palestinian government with “new, clear and rational policies toward Israel and the occupation army, without regional alliances,” referring to Iran’s support for Hamas and other radical groups.
“The Israeli side looks at us as terrorists, not as people with dreams and aspirations,” Mustafa said. “But the reality is quite different: Most of the people of Gaza are innocent civilians living in dire humanitarian conditions. They only dream of a decent life, freedom, justice, peace and democratic elections.
“This is why people took to the streets. To demand their most basic rights, an improvement in their living conditions, an end to poverty, unemployment, the lack of water and electricity, and to protest the imposition of power by force, being silenced and spied on,” he said.
“You can divide the people of Gaza in two: a large majority living under the poverty line, and a small ruling elite affiliated with Hamas and other Islamist factions, who live off the funding received by the ‘resistance,’” he added.
From his personal perspective as a peace activist, Mustafa said that “these demonstrations do not come out of thin air.” In his words, they express the “conviction of the Gazan people that peace is the solution. Gazans want an end to the occupation and the Israeli siege, and they want an end to the bloodshed that has been going on for so many years.”
I don't really understand the relationship between Gaza and the West Bank. before this conflict, could Gazans have opted to live in the West Bank?
Anonymous
09/02/2024 18:42
Subject: Gaza war and College Campus Protests
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Another American brutally murdered by Hamas… And yet we still don’t have American boots on the ground assisting the IDF in their vital mission.
A change in administration cannot come quick enough for our Israeli American population.
You are either Israeli or American. Go fight with your own blood and sons please.
My son moved to Israel and joined the IDF on October 8th, 2024. I have never been prouder of him. He is currently in the front lines making the Hamas pay.
That does not excuse our government’s abandonment of our closest international ally, Jewish people globally, and our own American citizens.
Let’s hope he’s doing what you say he’s doing and not making TikToks wearing stolen red panties.
American citizens should not be fighting in foreign armies. Your son is an Israeli now. We owe him nothing.
We owe Palestinians nothing. They elected a death cult to lead them. Choices have consequences.
Very few of the people alive today voted for Hamas
A majority of Palestines support Hamas. They support a terrorist group that id avowed to kill Jews and eradicate Israel and is a proxy for Iran. Choices have consequences.
The average Palestinian woman in Gaza has more than 6 children. They are obviously very wealthy to afford such large families. They don't need anyone's help. It's like helping Trump or Elon Musk with all their children. Barron Trump didn't vote for Republicans. Doesn't mean I owe Barron Trump anything.
The average Ultra Orthodox female in Israel is 6.6 children. Seems it is higher in Israel where the state(and the US) pays for them.
Anonymous
09/02/2024 18:40
Subject: Gaza war and College Campus Protests
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Another American brutally murdered by Hamas… And yet we still don’t have American boots on the ground assisting the IDF in their vital mission.
A change in administration cannot come quick enough for our Israeli American population.
You are either Israeli or American. Go fight with your own blood and sons please.
My son moved to Israel and joined the IDF on October 8th, 2024. I have never been prouder of him. He is currently in the front lines making the Hamas pay.
That does not excuse our government’s abandonment of our closest international ally, Jewish people globally, and our own American citizens.
Let’s hope he’s doing what you say he’s doing and not making TikToks wearing stolen red panties.
American citizens should not be fighting in foreign armies. Your son is an Israeli now. We owe him nothing.
We owe Palestinians nothing. They elected a death cult to lead them. Choices have consequences.
Very few of the people alive today voted for Hamas
A majority of Palestines support Hamas. They support a terrorist group that id avowed to kill Jews and eradicate Israel and is a proxy for Iran. Choices have consequences.
Hamas never vowed to kill Jews and is in fact on record their problem is with Israel and Jews per se.
Hamas has killed, and is literally killing Jews. Is your point that they also killed Muslims? Yes, they have and do.
Anonymous
09/02/2024 18:40
Subject: Gaza war and College Campus Protests
Mustafa (not his real name), an anti-Hamas activist in his mid-30s living in Gaza who agreed to speak to The Times of Israel by email on condition of total anonymity, described life in the isolated enclave under the rule of Hamas and the Israeli blockade as an “open-air prison.”
Mustafa said that with over 70% youth unemployment and an average per capita income per day of NIS 20, or $5.5, intermittent access to electricity, and undrinkable tap water, life in the enclave is barely livable for the vast majority of citizens who are not somehow tied to Hamas.
Leaving the Strip requires at least $10,000 to be smuggled out illegally, with high chances of dying on the way to freedom, he added. This is all because “Gazan civilians are exploited as a pawn in a struggle between regional forces, and Hamas uses its citizens as human shields to defend its project of ‘Islamic resistance’ while it silences and threatens to kill any opposition,” he continued.
A professional who describes himself as a “liberal and a democrat” interested in “humanitarian issues and free citizenship,” Mustafa estimated that the current wave of demonstrations has only just begun, since in his view the protesters’ demands are not limited to electricity, but aimed at ultimately overthrowing “the military regime and the rule of the clerics.”
With regard to relations with the neighboring Jewish state, Mustafa expressed his wish for a Palestinian government with “new, clear and rational policies toward Israel and the occupation army, without regional alliances,” referring to Iran’s support for Hamas and other radical groups.
“The Israeli side looks at us as terrorists, not as people with dreams and aspirations,” Mustafa said. “But the reality is quite different: Most of the people of Gaza are innocent civilians living in dire humanitarian conditions. They only dream of a decent life, freedom, justice, peace and democratic elections.
“This is why people took to the streets. To demand their most basic rights, an improvement in their living conditions, an end to poverty, unemployment, the lack of water and electricity, and to protest the imposition of power by force, being silenced and spied on,” he said.
“You can divide the people of Gaza in two: a large majority living under the poverty line, and a small ruling elite affiliated with Hamas and other Islamist factions, who live off the funding received by the ‘resistance,’” he added.
From his personal perspective as a peace activist, Mustafa said that “these demonstrations do not come out of thin air.” In his words, they express the “conviction of the Gazan people that peace is the solution. Gazans want an end to the occupation and the Israeli siege, and they want an end to the bloodshed that has been going on for so many years.”
Mustafa said that with over 70% youth unemployment and an average per capita income per day of NIS 20, or $5.5, intermittent access to electricity, and undrinkable tap water, life in the enclave is barely livable for the vast majority of citizens who are not somehow tied to Hamas.
Leaving the Strip requires at least $10,000 to be smuggled out illegally, with high chances of dying on the way to freedom, he added. This is all because “Gazan civilians are exploited as a pawn in a struggle between regional forces, and Hamas uses its citizens as human shields to defend its project of ‘Islamic resistance’ while it silences and threatens to kill any opposition,” he continued.
A professional who describes himself as a “liberal and a democrat” interested in “humanitarian issues and free citizenship,” Mustafa estimated that the current wave of demonstrations has only just begun, since in his view the protesters’ demands are not limited to electricity, but aimed at ultimately overthrowing “the military regime and the rule of the clerics.”
With regard to relations with the neighboring Jewish state, Mustafa expressed his wish for a Palestinian government with “new, clear and rational policies toward Israel and the occupation army, without regional alliances,” referring to Iran’s support for Hamas and other radical groups.
“The Israeli side looks at us as terrorists, not as people with dreams and aspirations,” Mustafa said. “But the reality is quite different: Most of the people of Gaza are innocent civilians living in dire humanitarian conditions. They only dream of a decent life, freedom, justice, peace and democratic elections.
“This is why people took to the streets. To demand their most basic rights, an improvement in their living conditions, an end to poverty, unemployment, the lack of water and electricity, and to protest the imposition of power by force, being silenced and spied on,” he said.
“You can divide the people of Gaza in two: a large majority living under the poverty line, and a small ruling elite affiliated with Hamas and other Islamist factions, who live off the funding received by the ‘resistance,’” he added.
From his personal perspective as a peace activist, Mustafa said that “these demonstrations do not come out of thin air.” In his words, they express the “conviction of the Gazan people that peace is the solution. Gazans want an end to the occupation and the Israeli siege, and they want an end to the bloodshed that has been going on for so many years.”
Anonymous
09/02/2024 18:40
Subject: Gaza war and College Campus Protests
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Good piece by Wesleyan president in the NYT today. I’m moved by the protestors although I feel like I can’t admit that to many/most of my Jewish friends.
I also read it. The issue is that he is wrong: These students are not informed, inquiring minds. They are easily-influenced pawns of dangerous online disinformation, and he is allowing that to flourish and praising it. When questioned about why they are protesting, many of them don't have any basic knowledge of the conflict at all and just parrot what they saw in a post on instagram. "Intellectual freedom" without facts is basically the exact same as MAGA on the right. It's troubling a university President doesn't realize this.
Israelis think anyone who doesn’t support them blindly must be misinformed.
Anonymous
09/02/2024 18:38
Subject: Gaza war and College Campus Protests
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Another American brutally murdered by Hamas… And yet we still don’t have American boots on the ground assisting the IDF in their vital mission.
A change in administration cannot come quick enough for our Israeli American population.
You are either Israeli or American. Go fight with your own blood and sons please.
My son moved to Israel and joined the IDF on October 8th, 2024. I have never been prouder of him. He is currently in the front lines making the Hamas pay.
That does not excuse our government’s abandonment of our closest international ally, Jewish people globally, and our own American citizens.
Let’s hope he’s doing what you say he’s doing and not making TikToks wearing stolen red panties.
American citizens should not be fighting in foreign armies. Your son is an Israeli now. We owe him nothing.
We owe Palestinians nothing. They elected a death cult to lead them. Choices have consequences.
Very few of the people alive today voted for Hamas
A majority of Palestines support Hamas. They support a terrorist group that id avowed to kill Jews and eradicate Israel and is a proxy for Iran. Choices have consequences.
Hamas never vowed to kill Jews and is in fact on record their problem is with Israel and Jews per se.
Anonymous
09/02/2024 18:36
Subject: Gaza war and College Campus Protests
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Another American brutally murdered by Hamas… And yet we still don’t have American boots on the ground assisting the IDF in their vital mission.
A change in administration cannot come quick enough for our Israeli American population.
You are either Israeli or American. Go fight with your own blood and sons please.
My son moved to Israel and joined the IDF on October 8th, 2024. I have never been prouder of him. He is currently in the front lines making the Hamas pay.
That does not excuse our government’s abandonment of our closest international ally, Jewish people globally, and our own American citizens.
Let’s hope he’s doing what you say he’s doing and not making TikToks wearing stolen red panties.
American citizens should not be fighting in foreign armies. Your son is an Israeli now. We owe him nothing.
We owe Palestinians nothing. They elected a death cult to lead them. Choices have consequences.
Very few of the people alive today voted for Hamas
A majority of Palestines support Hamas. They support a terrorist group that id avowed to kill Jews and eradicate Israel and is a proxy for Iran. Choices have consequences.
The average Palestinian woman in Gaza has more than 6 children. They are obviously very wealthy to afford such large families. They don't need anyone's help. It's like helping Trump or Elon Musk with all their children. Barron Trump didn't vote for Republicans. Doesn't mean I owe Barron Trump anything.
Birth rate in Gaza is 3.38 children per woman. You lying moron.
Anonymous
09/02/2024 18:33
Subject: Gaza war and College Campus Protests
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Gaza_economic_protests
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_Gaza_economic_protests
https://www.timesofisrael.com/protests-against-hamas-reemerge-in-the-streets-of-gaza-but-will-they-persist/amp/
On July 30, thousands of people throughout the Gaza Strip took to the streets demanding better living conditions, in a rare display of public anger against the Hamas regime. The following Friday, August 4, hundreds of people rallied again in various parts of the enclave.
Protesters were rallying under the slogan “We want to live” — the same slogan used in the last round of protests in March-April 2019. The demonstrations have been organized by an anonymous Instagram account under the name “Al-Virus Al-Sakher,” or “The Mocking Virus,” which has 160,000 followers. Various anti-Hamas activists in exile have joined the campaign, urging Gazans to take to the streets and demand a better standard of living.
Given the near-complete absence of free media in the Strip, it is difficult for outside analysts to gauge how many people participated in the latest round of protests. According to videos circulating on social media, numbers seemed to be significantly larger in the first demonstration than in the second, when Hamas’s security apparatus adopted preventive measures.
Protests were scheduled to take place once again throughout the strip on Monday. However, Hamas came prepared to thwart them.
People are much more outspoken against Hamas on social media today than they were 10 or five years ago,” said Rami Aman, a prominent Gazan peace activist living in Cairo, and a critic of the terror group that rules the enclave. “Back then, people would not dare make their opinions heard online for fear of retaliation.”
Aman, the founder of a grassroots youth empowerment group called the “Gaza Youth Committee,” was arrested by Hamas several times for his activism, including one seven-month imprisonment in 2020 after he organized a Zoom meeting between Gazans and Israelis. Hamas considered this a criminal act.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_Gaza_economic_protests
https://www.timesofisrael.com/protests-against-hamas-reemerge-in-the-streets-of-gaza-but-will-they-persist/amp/
On July 30, thousands of people throughout the Gaza Strip took to the streets demanding better living conditions, in a rare display of public anger against the Hamas regime. The following Friday, August 4, hundreds of people rallied again in various parts of the enclave.
Protesters were rallying under the slogan “We want to live” — the same slogan used in the last round of protests in March-April 2019. The demonstrations have been organized by an anonymous Instagram account under the name “Al-Virus Al-Sakher,” or “The Mocking Virus,” which has 160,000 followers. Various anti-Hamas activists in exile have joined the campaign, urging Gazans to take to the streets and demand a better standard of living.
Given the near-complete absence of free media in the Strip, it is difficult for outside analysts to gauge how many people participated in the latest round of protests. According to videos circulating on social media, numbers seemed to be significantly larger in the first demonstration than in the second, when Hamas’s security apparatus adopted preventive measures.
Protests were scheduled to take place once again throughout the strip on Monday. However, Hamas came prepared to thwart them.
People are much more outspoken against Hamas on social media today than they were 10 or five years ago,” said Rami Aman, a prominent Gazan peace activist living in Cairo, and a critic of the terror group that rules the enclave. “Back then, people would not dare make their opinions heard online for fear of retaliation.”
Aman, the founder of a grassroots youth empowerment group called the “Gaza Youth Committee,” was arrested by Hamas several times for his activism, including one seven-month imprisonment in 2020 after he organized a Zoom meeting between Gazans and Israelis. Hamas considered this a criminal act.
Anonymous
09/02/2024 18:32
Subject: Gaza war and College Campus Protests
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Another American brutally murdered by Hamas… And yet we still don’t have American boots on the ground assisting the IDF in their vital mission.
A change in administration cannot come quick enough for our Israeli American population.
Wow. Is that what you really think? According to news reports the hostages killed all would have been released if Israel had signed the ceasefire deal negotiated by the US and agreed to by Hamas. How does their death then not rest squarely on Osraeli government shoulders?
Hamas killed them. Even if Israel signs the deal, the us military should still hunt down those who killed an American civilian. Of course I think we should do the same to the Israeli soldiers and pilots who have killed American civilians
Those were Israelis with American passports- ie Israelis. The IDF should have protected them and Israel’s government should have got them released. Both the IDF annd Israel failed them. Many think Israel would have saved them if they were not from liberal areas. We all know how much the Israelis hate liberals.
Hostages exchanged have been a hallmark of the Israelis. Now the Israelis no longer want their hostages back. It’s not working out very well. Who could have predicted that?
Hamas killed them. They are to blame. They killed raped and kidnapped civilians with the goal of inviting bloodshed on their own people. Psychopaths.
May Palestinians rise up against them.
Palestinians have risen against Hamas many many times. Last August, the biggest demonstrations in Gaza happened against Hamas.
The reason Israel didn’t pay attention to the mob in the days leading up to 10/7 is they assumed it was another anti Hamas protest.
10/7 conveniently happened right after the largest anti Hamas protests last summer in Gaza and the largest anti Netanyhau protests in Israel last summer as well.
The political realities of Israelis and Palestinians are intertwined and nothing can happen unless both sides realize they are fighting the same thing, right wing extremists
+1
Anonymous
09/02/2024 18:31
Subject: Gaza war and College Campus Protests
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Good piece by Wesleyan president in the NYT today. I’m moved by the protestors although I feel like I can’t admit that to many/most of my Jewish friends.
I also read it. The issue is that he is wrong: These students are not informed, inquiring minds. They are easily-influenced pawns of dangerous online disinformation, and he is allowing that to flourish and praising it. When questioned about why they are protesting, many of them don't have any basic knowledge of the conflict at all and just parrot what they saw in a post on instagram. "Intellectual freedom" without facts is basically the exact same as MAGA on the right. It's troubling a university President doesn't realize this.
They are witnessing a genocide and are refusing to simply accept it. You are the one that has been brainwashed, like most of us raised in the US.
If they actually cared about genocide they would protest about a genocide occurring right now. They're not.
They are...?
Anonymous
09/02/2024 18:28
Subject: Gaza war and College Campus Protests
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Another American brutally murdered by Hamas… And yet we still don’t have American boots on the ground assisting the IDF in their vital mission.
A change in administration cannot come quick enough for our Israeli American population.
Wow. Is that what you really think? According to news reports the hostages killed all would have been released if Israel had signed the ceasefire deal negotiated by the US and agreed to by Hamas. How does their death then not rest squarely on Osraeli government shoulders?
Hamas killed them. Even if Israel signs the deal, the us military should still hunt down those who killed an American civilian. Of course I think we should do the same to the Israeli soldiers and pilots who have killed American civilians
Those were Israelis with American passports- ie Israelis. The IDF should have protected them and Israel’s government should have got them released. Both the IDF annd Israel failed them. Many think Israel would have saved them if they were not from liberal areas. We all know how much the Israelis hate liberals.
Hostages exchanged have been a hallmark of the Israelis. Now the Israelis no longer want their hostages back. It’s not working out very well. Who could have predicted that?
Hamas killed them. They are to blame. They killed raped and kidnapped civilians with the goal of inviting bloodshed on their own people. Psychopaths.
May Palestinians rise up against them.
Palestinians have risen against Hamas many many times. Last August, the biggest demonstrations in Gaza happened against Hamas.
The reason Israel didn’t pay attention to the mob in the days leading up to 10/7 is they assumed it was another anti Hamas protest.
10/7 conveniently happened right after the largest anti Hamas protests last summer in Gaza and the largest anti Netanyhau protests in Israel last summer as well.
The political realities of Israelis and Palestinians are intertwined and nothing can happen unless both sides realize they are fighting the same thing, right wing extremists
Anonymous
09/02/2024 18:27
Subject: Gaza war and College Campus Protests
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Good piece by Wesleyan president in the NYT today. I’m moved by the protestors although I feel like I can’t admit that to many/most of my Jewish friends.
I also read it. The issue is that he is wrong: These students are not informed, inquiring minds. They are easily-influenced pawns of dangerous online disinformation, and he is allowing that to flourish and praising it. When questioned about why they are protesting, many of them don't have any basic knowledge of the conflict at all and just parrot what they saw in a post on instagram. "Intellectual freedom" without facts is basically the exact same as MAGA on the right. It's troubling a university President doesn't realize this.
They are witnessing a genocide and are refusing to simply accept it. You are the one that has been brainwashed, like most of us raised in the US.
If they actually cared about genocide they would protest about a genocide occurring right now. They're not.