Anonymous
Post 10/07/2021 11:32     Subject: Girls Tryouts
Anonymous wrote:HoCo was in B division.

TCL I don’t think was in NGLL last year.

SW and FCA were bottom A and I do think they could hang with them.

Integrity would win by more than a few goals.

NL has to keep their top players and develop, we will see what they do in fall.


We won't see in the Fall, at least at the 27 and 28 level. Both teams could (and the 27s probably will) go undefeated but we wont know how good they truly are.

The only competitive game for the 27s will likely be Heros White (who lost alot). 28s will likely play LBC which would be a test for them.
Anonymous
Post 10/06/2021 20:41     Subject: Girls Tryouts
HoCo was in B division.

TCL I don’t think was in NGLL last year.

SW and FCA were bottom A and I do think they could hang with them.

Integrity would win by more than a few goals.

NL has to keep their top players and develop, we will see what they do in fall.
Anonymous
Post 10/06/2021 15:24     Subject: Girls Tryouts
I don't think the original poster was saying play for the same club as their siblings necessarily, I think they meant their siblings play lacrosse, parents have played and coached their kids rec. teams, etc. The parents and kids are involved in lacrosse at several levels. They go and watch college lacrosse games for example. It's in their blood. This is the profile of the kids that play for the top Baltimore programs.

Many girls simply play lacrosse because their friends play or it's often their second or third sport so they miss practices, rarely practice outside of team practice, etc. That's TOTALLY fine, but if the goal is to compete in the "A" division or with Baltimore teams, that's not enough.
Anonymous
Post 10/06/2021 14:50     Subject: Girls Tryouts
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Just adding my 2 cents. One secret seems to be identifying "talent" early on, usually in the 5th/6th grade. Sometimes earlier. It's not so much the stickwork (that can be taught) but more the girls (and likely boys too) that can run fast and are aggressive. If they come from lacrosse families with siblings and/or parents that played, even better. Pride does a good job with their cubs program. They have ice cream trucks., music playing, etc. to attract kids when they're young. They can then pick and choose from the better athletes. Their reputation as one of the better clubs doesn't hurt for turnout either. I'm not sure how other clubs "recruit" kids but the aforementioned seems to be effective for this club. Once they have a good group of girls, it's just a matter of keeping them together and growing as a team. Even on the better teams though, girls still leave so it's a challenge for any club to retain talent and make all the parents and kids happy. I certainly would not want to run a program, seems like a nightmare at times.


Very true. There’s also the location factor-most parents don’t want a crazy commute for 4th grade practice The management of the club often, then determines if the kids move on. There can be a “grass is greener” mentality.


Exactly. That is the edge that NL has that they aren't utilizing. I can name 5 or 6 girls at the 27 or 28 level who have brothers playing at NL whose parents would strongly prefer that they play at NL too. But they don't because NL doesn't offer competitive scheduling or training. (Most of them play at Stars or Pride) If NL could just keep their siblings in the girls program, they would be incredibly competitive.


Where are the siblings playing for now?

Its kinda the chicken or the egg. You can't schedule "competitive scheduling" because NL 27 would get crushed by most A teams. If you had different players, you could, but they don't so you can't.


Their siblings are playing for NL boys anywhere from 24-26. I'm not saying try to play in the top brackets, but NL 27s and 28s could easily perform well in a middle bracket at Lax for the Cure, LiveLoveLax, Young Guns or mid-atlantic. And if you dont get in early, you never will.

While they wont compete with Heros, M&D, or Pride in the short-term, they are probably 3-4 players away from being competitive with the bottom half of A. (FCA, Integrity, HoCo, SW, TLC).

For example here was the middle 2027 group for LiveLoveLax last summer, Are you telling me the NL 27s or 28s wouldnt have been competitive

- Heros White
- Philly Blast
- Hoco Black
- Stars Light Blue
- YJ C
- Steps Blue


They beat 2 of those teams last year and heros white is probably the only in that group where they would not have been competitive.


Anonymous
Post 10/06/2021 13:32     Subject: Girls Tryouts
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Just adding my 2 cents. One secret seems to be identifying "talent" early on, usually in the 5th/6th grade. Sometimes earlier. It's not so much the stickwork (that can be taught) but more the girls (and likely boys too) that can run fast and are aggressive. If they come from lacrosse families with siblings and/or parents that played, even better. Pride does a good job with their cubs program. They have ice cream trucks., music playing, etc. to attract kids when they're young. They can then pick and choose from the better athletes. Their reputation as one of the better clubs doesn't hurt for turnout either. I'm not sure how other clubs "recruit" kids but the aforementioned seems to be effective for this club. Once they have a good group of girls, it's just a matter of keeping them together and growing as a team. Even on the better teams though, girls still leave so it's a challenge for any club to retain talent and make all the parents and kids happy. I certainly would not want to run a program, seems like a nightmare at times.


Very true. There’s also the location factor-most parents don’t want a crazy commute for 4th grade practice The management of the club often, then determines if the kids move on. There can be a “grass is greener” mentality.


Exactly. That is the edge that NL has that they aren't utilizing. I can name 5 or 6 girls at the 27 or 28 level who have brothers playing at NL whose parents would strongly prefer that they play at NL too. But they don't because NL doesn't offer competitive scheduling or training. (Most of them play at Stars or Pride) If NL could just keep their siblings in the girls program, they would be incredibly competitive.


Where are the siblings playing for now?

Its kinda the chicken or the egg. You can't schedule "competitive scheduling" because NL 27 would get crushed by most A teams. If you had different players, you could, but they don't so you can't.


But there is never a chance of at least playing the tier below the true "A" teams because they are not in the top tournaments. That is the problem.
Anonymous
Post 10/06/2021 13:14     Subject: Girls Tryouts
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Just adding my 2 cents. One secret seems to be identifying "talent" early on, usually in the 5th/6th grade. Sometimes earlier. It's not so much the stickwork (that can be taught) but more the girls (and likely boys too) that can run fast and are aggressive. If they come from lacrosse families with siblings and/or parents that played, even better. Pride does a good job with their cubs program. They have ice cream trucks., music playing, etc. to attract kids when they're young. They can then pick and choose from the better athletes. Their reputation as one of the better clubs doesn't hurt for turnout either. I'm not sure how other clubs "recruit" kids but the aforementioned seems to be effective for this club. Once they have a good group of girls, it's just a matter of keeping them together and growing as a team. Even on the better teams though, girls still leave so it's a challenge for any club to retain talent and make all the parents and kids happy. I certainly would not want to run a program, seems like a nightmare at times.


Very true. There’s also the location factor-most parents don’t want a crazy commute for 4th grade practice The management of the club often, then determines if the kids move on. There can be a “grass is greener” mentality.


Exactly. That is the edge that NL has that they aren't utilizing. I can name 5 or 6 girls at the 27 or 28 level who have brothers playing at NL whose parents would strongly prefer that they play at NL too. But they don't because NL doesn't offer competitive scheduling or training. (Most of them play at Stars or Pride) If NL could just keep their siblings in the girls program, they would be incredibly competitive.


Where are the siblings playing for now?

Its kinda the chicken or the egg. You can't schedule "competitive scheduling" because NL 27 would get crushed by most A teams. If you had different players, you could, but they don't so you can't.
Anonymous
Post 10/06/2021 10:21     Subject: Girls Tryouts
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Just adding my 2 cents. One secret seems to be identifying "talent" early on, usually in the 5th/6th grade. Sometimes earlier. It's not so much the stickwork (that can be taught) but more the girls (and likely boys too) that can run fast and are aggressive. If they come from lacrosse families with siblings and/or parents that played, even better. Pride does a good job with their cubs program. They have ice cream trucks., music playing, etc. to attract kids when they're young. They can then pick and choose from the better athletes. Their reputation as one of the better clubs doesn't hurt for turnout either. I'm not sure how other clubs "recruit" kids but the aforementioned seems to be effective for this club. Once they have a good group of girls, it's just a matter of keeping them together and growing as a team. Even on the better teams though, girls still leave so it's a challenge for any club to retain talent and make all the parents and kids happy. I certainly would not want to run a program, seems like a nightmare at times.


Very true. There’s also the location factor-most parents don’t want a crazy commute for 4th grade practice The management of the club often, then determines if the kids move on. There can be a “grass is greener” mentality.


Exactly. That is the edge that NL has that they aren't utilizing. I can name 5 or 6 girls at the 27 or 28 level who have brothers playing at NL whose parents would strongly prefer that they play at NL too. But they don't because NL doesn't offer competitive scheduling or training. (Most of them play at Stars or Pride) If NL could just keep their siblings in the girls program, they would be incredibly competitive.
Anonymous
Post 10/05/2021 12:22     Subject: Girls Tryouts
Anonymous wrote:Just adding my 2 cents. One secret seems to be identifying "talent" early on, usually in the 5th/6th grade. Sometimes earlier. It's not so much the stickwork (that can be taught) but more the girls (and likely boys too) that can run fast and are aggressive. If they come from lacrosse families with siblings and/or parents that played, even better. Pride does a good job with their cubs program. They have ice cream trucks., music playing, etc. to attract kids when they're young. They can then pick and choose from the better athletes. Their reputation as one of the better clubs doesn't hurt for turnout either. I'm not sure how other clubs "recruit" kids but the aforementioned seems to be effective for this club. Once they have a good group of girls, it's just a matter of keeping them together and growing as a team. Even on the better teams though, girls still leave so it's a challenge for any club to retain talent and make all the parents and kids happy. I certainly would not want to run a program, seems like a nightmare at times.


Very true. There’s also the location factor-most parents don’t want a crazy commute for 4th grade practice The management of the club often, then determines if the kids move on. There can be a “grass is greener” mentality.
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2021 19:42     Subject: Girls Tryouts
Just adding my 2 cents. One secret seems to be identifying "talent" early on, usually in the 5th/6th grade. Sometimes earlier. It's not so much the stickwork (that can be taught) but more the girls (and likely boys too) that can run fast and are aggressive. If they come from lacrosse families with siblings and/or parents that played, even better. Pride does a good job with their cubs program. They have ice cream trucks., music playing, etc. to attract kids when they're young. They can then pick and choose from the better athletes. Their reputation as one of the better clubs doesn't hurt for turnout either. I'm not sure how other clubs "recruit" kids but the aforementioned seems to be effective for this club. Once they have a good group of girls, it's just a matter of keeping them together and growing as a team. Even on the better teams though, girls still leave so it's a challenge for any club to retain talent and make all the parents and kids happy. I certainly would not want to run a program, seems like a nightmare at times.
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2021 18:56     Subject: Girls Tryouts
ML isn't even close to NL though. ML only has mixed age group teams. ML all ages and NL high school are very similar right now.
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2021 18:12     Subject: Girls Tryouts
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Anonymous wrote:Does NL even really tout themselves as a club in which their players go on to play college lacrosse? If they don't, then why are people knocking on them?

They serve the market of girls who still want to play club lacrosse but have no dreams/aspirations of playing college lacrosse. They don't need to play in the premier tournaments.

As long as that is understood by everyone, let them be.


I think what bothers alot of folks is the massive chasm between the boys and girls teams. The boys club plays in the best tourneys in the country and routinely sends kids to the best colleges in the country.

As for the girls, they don't really have HS team for recruitable players yet, but they clearly have much lower aspirations. I can name multiple top boys players at NL who have sisters who play at top area girls clubs.


Just go to the Next Level website, boys full roster with numbers names positions, girls, still has tryout info from June.

I can't think of one program that has both boys and girls teams where the girls team is competitive.


Isn't the issue that it takes time to develop a program? MadLax, for example, has a relatively recent girls program. They have recruiting pages, etc. But, not a lot of track record yet. I'd take a new program alongside a developed boys' program over a new stand-alone program.


I'm not sure how the Madlax girls program continues to exist. They are not drawing any of Nova's top talent and they really just have Rec kids who just want to play a little more than Rec. Too many other more established clubs and they aren't getting any better.


You just explained how ML girls continues to exist - thats where girls who don’t want, or aren’t at the level to play, intense and competitive lacrosse go to be on a team.

It sounds like the NL equivalent. A team that is a little higher than rec but not for tippy top girls. Given that dec ends after 8th grade, it is good there is an option for high schoolers.
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2021 16:55     Subject: Girls Tryouts
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Does NL even really tout themselves as a club in which their players go on to play college lacrosse? If they don't, then why are people knocking on them?

They serve the market of girls who still want to play club lacrosse but have no dreams/aspirations of playing college lacrosse. They don't need to play in the premier tournaments.

As long as that is understood by everyone, let them be.


I think what bothers alot of folks is the massive chasm between the boys and girls teams. The boys club plays in the best tourneys in the country and routinely sends kids to the best colleges in the country.

As for the girls, they don't really have HS team for recruitable players yet, but they clearly have much lower aspirations. I can name multiple top boys players at NL who have sisters who play at top area girls clubs.


Just go to the Next Level website, boys full roster with numbers names positions, girls, still has tryout info from June.

I can't think of one program that has both boys and girls teams where the girls team is competitive.


Isn't the issue that it takes time to develop a program? MadLax, for example, has a relatively recent girls program. They have recruiting pages, etc. But, not a lot of track record yet. I'd take a new program alongside a developed boys' program over a new stand-alone program.


I'm not sure how the Madlax girls program continues to exist. They are not drawing any of Nova's top talent and they really just have Rec kids who just want to play a little more than Rec. Too many other more established clubs and they aren't getting any better.


You just explained how ML girls continues to exist - thats where girls who don’t want, or aren’t at the level to play, intense and competitive lacrosse go to be on a team.
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2021 15:07     Subject: Girls Tryouts
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Does NL even really tout themselves as a club in which their players go on to play college lacrosse? If they don't, then why are people knocking on them?

They serve the market of girls who still want to play club lacrosse but have no dreams/aspirations of playing college lacrosse. They don't need to play in the premier tournaments.

As long as that is understood by everyone, let them be.


I think what bothers alot of folks is the massive chasm between the boys and girls teams. The boys club plays in the best tourneys in the country and routinely sends kids to the best colleges in the country.

As for the girls, they don't really have HS team for recruitable players yet, but they clearly have much lower aspirations. I can name multiple top boys players at NL who have sisters who play at top area girls clubs.


Just go to the Next Level website, boys full roster with numbers names positions, girls, still has tryout info from June.

I can't think of one program that has both boys and girls teams where the girls team is competitive.


Isn't the issue that it takes time to develop a program? MadLax, for example, has a relatively recent girls program. They have recruiting pages, etc. But, not a lot of track record yet. I'd take a new program alongside a developed boys' program over a new stand-alone program.


I'm not sure how the Madlax girls program continues to exist. They are not drawing any of Nova's top talent and they really just have Rec kids who just want to play a little more than Rec. Too many other more established clubs and they aren't getting any better.
Anonymous
Post 10/03/2021 22:32     Subject: Girls Tryouts
I think KM was only coaching the 2025 team because there was a hole in the coaching staff, so she took over. Ergo, its not shocking there is a new coach.

However - There is inconsistency of coaching year to year on Pride, which can either be credited to young coaches being in/out/flighty or KM being difficult. Hard to say.
Anonymous
Post 10/01/2021 23:36     Subject: Girls Tryouts
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Four Pride 25 players went to MCE A team.

I hear only five Pride Red ‘25 players stayed for the Pride ‘25 highschool A team. And they moved coaches around so owner is no longer their coach. No new rosters up - wonder if they have a full team. You’d think some of the Stars players who didn’t make Capital might try to go to Pride.


Pride has 3 25 teams. Their top team will be nowhere near what it was last year as they did lose about 40-50% of their players to CLC and one going to MCE. The other girls who went to MCE were from their 2nd tier teams. I wouldn't expect to see the new rosters up anytime soon. The website is always outdated.


Pride 2025 A team lost all but 5 of their players in total to other programs. No way will they be competitive anymore. Capital 2025 B team will be better than Prude A team. MCE 2025 A team will be better than Pride 2025 A team. This could well be the end of the Pride highschool program.

Have any of the Pride 2023s committed? That is going to be the ultimate deciding factor on if Pride is viable as a highschool club program.


Most of what is written in this string is wrong. You have no idea what you're talking about. Weird.


Most of it is CORRECT. And sadly no Pride ‘23s seem to have committed yet.