Anonymous
01/20/2022 14:26
Subject: Why would Sasha Obama attend University of Michigan?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Pretty clear that both daughters are aiming to end up in the entertainment industry. USC is a great school for making connections in the industry, interning, and landing a job. If this is where she wants to end up, why stick it out in Ann Arbor? Her parents are probably paying the same amount at USC vs. OOS at UM.
There's now a large community of African-Americans in LA with real power and money in the entertainment industry. They are showrunning, writing, producing, directing, cinematographers, etc. This really didn't exist even 15-20 years ago, when the writers/producers/directors/production were uniformly white and male. The industry has really undergone a revolution in terms of diverse voices that coincided with the rise of streaming services.
yes, daughter of a HS classmate studied film in college then headed west after graduation. she is interested in production, has landed some good jobs, and even scored a few credits on both film and TV productions. really exciting!
If this is my (white) daughter's dream (screenwriting.tv production), but we only have in-state (VA) tuition money saved, what should we do? We're not connected like the Obama's seem to be.
I don't think you need to qualify race here. while there are a growing group of African Americans in the LA entertainment industry, that doesn't mean there are no longer opportunities for young white people.
Anonymous
01/20/2022 14:23
Subject: Why would Sasha Obama attend University of Michigan?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Pretty clear that both daughters are aiming to end up in the entertainment industry. USC is a great school for making connections in the industry, interning, and landing a job. If this is where she wants to end up, why stick it out in Ann Arbor? Her parents are probably paying the same amount at USC vs. OOS at UM.
There's now a large community of African-Americans in LA with real power and money in the entertainment industry. They are showrunning, writing, producing, directing, cinematographers, etc. This really didn't exist even 15-20 years ago, when the writers/producers/directors/production were uniformly white and male. The industry has really undergone a revolution in terms of diverse voices that coincided with the rise of streaming services.
yes, daughter of a HS classmate studied film in college then headed west after graduation. she is interested in production, has landed some good jobs, and even scored a few credits on both film and TV productions. really exciting!
If this is my (white) daughter's dream (screenwriting.tv production), but we only have in-state (VA) tuition money saved, what should we do? We're not connected like the Obama's seem to be.
Honestly, your daughter just needs to write, write, write. At the end of the day, those who create content have the power. Writers are near the top of the heap. The studios are always looking to find fresh writers with new stories, trying to option books, etc.
This is the golden age for grassroots entertainment. The proliferation of streaming services + traditional studios + cable/TV + full exposure to foreign audiences have created waaaaaaaaaaaay more opportunities for writers, actors, directors, etc than anytime since the advent of filmmaking.
No need for your daughter to go to USC. She just needs to have a bunch of scripts written and be willing to move to LA for internships each summer + after she graduates. She has to be willing to take any job and meet people. A lot of people start their jobs reviewing scripts for studios and production companies. Or they work as receptionists at talent agencies.
USC and NYU pedigree don't mean squat if the student isn't driven and creating content. She should be reading, writing, and re-writing all the time. Obsessively.
Thank you for the advice. I should note, she's only 14 and unfortunately *watches* more tv than reading or writing at this point. I'll make a point of reinforcing what she needs to do if this is the path she truly wants to take.
Better advice than wily nily heading to LA or NYC with just a hope and a prayer. And I say that because I know folks who did that - only one really made it and that's also b/c they had technical skills.
Anonymous
01/20/2022 14:09
Subject: Why would Sasha Obama attend University of Michigan?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Pretty clear that both daughters are aiming to end up in the entertainment industry. USC is a great school for making connections in the industry, interning, and landing a job. If this is where she wants to end up, why stick it out in Ann Arbor? Her parents are probably paying the same amount at USC vs. OOS at UM.
There's now a large community of African-Americans in LA with real power and money in the entertainment industry. They are showrunning, writing, producing, directing, cinematographers, etc. This really didn't exist even 15-20 years ago, when the writers/producers/directors/production were uniformly white and male. The industry has really undergone a revolution in terms of diverse voices that coincided with the rise of streaming services.
yes, daughter of a HS classmate studied film in college then headed west after graduation. she is interested in production, has landed some good jobs, and even scored a few credits on both film and TV productions. really exciting!
If this is my (white) daughter's dream (screenwriting.tv production), but we only have in-state (VA) tuition money saved, what should we do? We're not connected like the Obama's seem to be.
Honestly, your daughter just needs to write, write, write. At the end of the day, those who create content have the power. Writers are near the top of the heap. The studios are always looking to find fresh writers with new stories, trying to option books, etc.
This is the golden age for grassroots entertainment. The proliferation of streaming services + traditional studios + cable/TV + full exposure to foreign audiences have created waaaaaaaaaaaay more opportunities for writers, actors, directors, etc than anytime since the advent of filmmaking.
No need for your daughter to go to USC. She just needs to have a bunch of scripts written and be willing to move to LA for internships each summer + after she graduates. She has to be willing to take any job and meet people. A lot of people start their jobs reviewing scripts for studios and production companies. Or they work as receptionists at talent agencies.
USC and NYU pedigree don't mean squat if the student isn't driven and creating content. She should be reading, writing, and re-writing all the time. Obsessively.
Thank you for the advice. I should note, she's only 14 and unfortunately *watches* more tv than reading or writing at this point. I'll make a point of reinforcing what she needs to do if this is the path she truly wants to take.
Jerry Seinfeld writes for like 4-5 hours everyday. He writes that much because so much goes into the trash and is useless.
Same with Seth Rogen. And Chris Rock. Pretty much any comedian has to de facto be a great writer. Writing is the heart and hard work of the creative process.
And pretty much anyone else she sees on TV who creating their own shows or movies - it all starts with writing.
Tell her to watch less and read/write more.
Anonymous
01/20/2022 13:58
Subject: Why would Sasha Obama attend University of Michigan?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Pretty clear that both daughters are aiming to end up in the entertainment industry. USC is a great school for making connections in the industry, interning, and landing a job. If this is where she wants to end up, why stick it out in Ann Arbor? Her parents are probably paying the same amount at USC vs. OOS at UM.
There's now a large community of African-Americans in LA with real power and money in the entertainment industry. They are showrunning, writing, producing, directing, cinematographers, etc. This really didn't exist even 15-20 years ago, when the writers/producers/directors/production were uniformly white and male. The industry has really undergone a revolution in terms of diverse voices that coincided with the rise of streaming services.
yes, daughter of a HS classmate studied film in college then headed west after graduation. she is interested in production, has landed some good jobs, and even scored a few credits on both film and TV productions. really exciting!
If this is my (white) daughter's dream (screenwriting.tv production), but we only have in-state (VA) tuition money saved, what should we do? We're not connected like the Obama's seem to be.
Honestly, your daughter just needs to write, write, write. At the end of the day, those who create content have the power. Writers are near the top of the heap. The studios are always looking to find fresh writers with new stories, trying to option books, etc.
This is the golden age for grassroots entertainment. The proliferation of streaming services + traditional studios + cable/TV + full exposure to foreign audiences have created waaaaaaaaaaaay more opportunities for writers, actors, directors, etc than anytime since the advent of filmmaking.
No need for your daughter to go to USC. She just needs to have a bunch of scripts written and be willing to move to LA for internships each summer + after she graduates. She has to be willing to take any job and meet people. A lot of people start their jobs reviewing scripts for studios and production companies. Or they work as receptionists at talent agencies.
USC and NYU pedigree don't mean squat if the student isn't driven and creating content. She should be reading, writing, and re-writing all the time. Obsessively.
Thank you for the advice. I should note, she's only 14 and unfortunately *watches* more tv than reading or writing at this point. I'll make a point of reinforcing what she needs to do if this is the path she truly wants to take.
Anonymous
01/20/2022 13:51
Subject: Why would Sasha Obama attend University of Michigan?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Pretty clear that both daughters are aiming to end up in the entertainment industry. USC is a great school for making connections in the industry, interning, and landing a job. If this is where she wants to end up, why stick it out in Ann Arbor? Her parents are probably paying the same amount at USC vs. OOS at UM.
There's now a large community of African-Americans in LA with real power and money in the entertainment industry. They are showrunning, writing, producing, directing, cinematographers, etc. This really didn't exist even 15-20 years ago, when the writers/producers/directors/production were uniformly white and male. The industry has really undergone a revolution in terms of diverse voices that coincided with the rise of streaming services.
yes, daughter of a HS classmate studied film in college then headed west after graduation. she is interested in production, has landed some good jobs, and even scored a few credits on both film and TV productions. really exciting!
If this is my (white) daughter's dream (screenwriting.tv production), but we only have in-state (VA) tuition money saved, what should we do? We're not connected like the Obama's seem to be.
Honestly, your daughter just needs to write, write, write. At the end of the day, those who create content have the power. Writers are near the top of the heap. The studios are always looking to find fresh writers with new stories, trying to option books, etc.
This is the golden age for grassroots entertainment. The proliferation of streaming services + traditional studios + cable/TV + full exposure to foreign audiences have created waaaaaaaaaaaay more opportunities for writers, actors, directors, etc than anytime since the advent of filmmaking.
No need for your daughter to go to USC. She just needs to have a bunch of scripts written and be willing to move to LA for internships each summer + after she graduates. She has to be willing to take any job and meet people. A lot of people start their jobs reviewing scripts for studios and production companies. Or they work as receptionists at talent agencies.
USC and NYU pedigree don't mean squat if the student isn't driven and creating content. She should be reading, writing, and re-writing all the time. Obsessively.
Anonymous
01/20/2022 13:42
Subject: Why would Sasha Obama attend University of Michigan?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Pretty clear that both daughters are aiming to end up in the entertainment industry. USC is a great school for making connections in the industry, interning, and landing a job. If this is where she wants to end up, why stick it out in Ann Arbor? Her parents are probably paying the same amount at USC vs. OOS at UM.
There's now a large community of African-Americans in LA with real power and money in the entertainment industry. They are showrunning, writing, producing, directing, cinematographers, etc. This really didn't exist even 15-20 years ago, when the writers/producers/directors/production were uniformly white and male. The industry has really undergone a revolution in terms of diverse voices that coincided with the rise of streaming services.
yes, daughter of a HS classmate studied film in college then headed west after graduation. she is interested in production, has landed some good jobs, and even scored a few credits on both film and TV productions. really exciting!
If this is my (white) daughter's dream (screenwriting.tv production), but we only have in-state (VA) tuition money saved, what should we do? We're not connected like the Obama's seem to be.
The people I know personally who have successfully made it in the film industry didn’t graduate….they just jumped in, got a job, and started doing it.
Anonymous
01/20/2022 13:36
Subject: Why would Sasha Obama attend University of Michigan?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Pretty clear that both daughters are aiming to end up in the entertainment industry. USC is a great school for making connections in the industry, interning, and landing a job. If this is where she wants to end up, why stick it out in Ann Arbor? Her parents are probably paying the same amount at USC vs. OOS at UM.
There's now a large community of African-Americans in LA with real power and money in the entertainment industry. They are showrunning, writing, producing, directing, cinematographers, etc. This really didn't exist even 15-20 years ago, when the writers/producers/directors/production were uniformly white and male. The industry has really undergone a revolution in terms of diverse voices that coincided with the rise of streaming services.
yes, daughter of a HS classmate studied film in college then headed west after graduation. she is interested in production, has landed some good jobs, and even scored a few credits on both film and TV productions. really exciting!
If this is my (white) daughter's dream (screenwriting.tv production), but we only have in-state (VA) tuition money saved, what should we do? We're not connected like the Obama's seem to be.
Anonymous
01/20/2022 13:32
Subject: Why would Sasha Obama attend University of Michigan?
Anonymous wrote:Pretty clear that both daughters are aiming to end up in the entertainment industry. USC is a great school for making connections in the industry, interning, and landing a job. If this is where she wants to end up, why stick it out in Ann Arbor? Her parents are probably paying the same amount at USC vs. OOS at UM.
There's now a large community of African-Americans in LA with real power and money in the entertainment industry. They are showrunning, writing, producing, directing, cinematographers, etc. This really didn't exist even 15-20 years ago, when the writers/producers/directors/production were uniformly white and male. The industry has really undergone a revolution in terms of diverse voices that coincided with the rise of streaming services.
yes, daughter of a HS classmate studied film in college then headed west after graduation. she is interested in production, has landed some good jobs, and even scored a few credits on both film and TV productions. really exciting!
Anonymous
01/20/2022 13:18
Subject: Why would Sasha Obama attend University of Michigan?
Anonymous wrote:Pretty clear that both daughters are aiming to end up in the entertainment industry. USC is a great school for making connections in the industry, interning, and landing a job. If this is where she wants to end up, why stick it out in Ann Arbor? Her parents are probably paying the same amount at USC vs. OOS at UM.
There's now a large community of African-Americans in LA with real power and money in the entertainment industry. They are showrunning, writing, producing, directing, cinematographers, etc. This really didn't exist even 15-20 years ago, when the writers/producers/directors/production were uniformly white and male. The industry has really undergone a revolution in terms of diverse voices that coincided with the rise of streaming services.
Finally, a reasonable comment. Lots of students find their path after they matriculate into college and make the necessary changes to achieve their goals. Perhaps this is why Sasha is now in LA.
Anonymous
01/20/2022 12:41
Subject: Why would Sasha Obama attend University of Michigan?
Pretty clear that both daughters are aiming to end up in the entertainment industry. USC is a great school for making connections in the industry, interning, and landing a job. If this is where she wants to end up, why stick it out in Ann Arbor? Her parents are probably paying the same amount at USC vs. OOS at UM.
There's now a large community of African-Americans in LA with real power and money in the entertainment industry. They are showrunning, writing, producing, directing, cinematographers, etc. This really didn't exist even 15-20 years ago, when the writers/producers/directors/production were uniformly white and male. The industry has really undergone a revolution in terms of diverse voices that coincided with the rise of streaming services.
There's now a large community of African-Americans in LA with real power and money in the entertainment industry. They are showrunning, writing, producing, directing, cinematographers, etc. This really didn't exist even 15-20 years ago, when the writers/producers/directors/production were uniformly white and male. The industry has really undergone a revolution in terms of diverse voices that coincided with the rise of streaming services.
Anonymous
01/20/2022 10:49
Subject: Why would Sasha Obama attend University of Michigan?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:One factor might be proximity to Chicago.
Chicago has U of Chicago, Northwestern, UI etc. Both Bush Senior and Jr moved back home to Texas after presidency, Obamas could’ve moved too if they wanted to.
Have you seen the neighborhood surrounding UChicago? They have bank-level security entrances on all their dorm doors for a reason. Besides the Obamas mostly seem to reside in DC, Martha's Vineyard, and Hawaii.
Lots of Chicago and Illinois folks go to Michigan. Heck, Chicago's north shore is filled with Michigan alum.
Anonymous
01/20/2022 10:47
Subject: Why would Sasha Obama attend University of Michigan?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Sasha is now a junior in college. What is this inane thread being started up again?
I think it may be because she is seen in Los Angeles this week and has allegedly transferred to USC
More than one rich student has described Ann Arbor as a "dump" to me; beneath them, full of dull and small-minded "peasants". To a globetrotting rich kid, it is boring, cold and in the middle of nowhere. If you grew up in some rural setting in northern Michigan, maybe Ann Arbor feels special, but rich kids have seen too much. There was a scandal about 10 years ago where rich sororities and fraternities full of international and out of state rich kids totally destroyed some northern Michigan ski resorts. Why? Again, they think Michigan is a "dump". The same kids would never destroy a resort in Vail, Aspen or Park City.
You are pathetic. I would hate to be around anybody like you.
Agree. IDK who are the rich students this PP claims to know but the rich, globetrotting Michigan alum I know - ones who represent fractions of the one percent - rave about their days there, even many decades later. Their kids go, etc.
Guessing you may be a Spartan, but even no one there is as pathetic or as whiny as you.
Anonymous
01/20/2022 10:41
Subject: Why would Sasha Obama attend University of Michigan?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Sasha is now a junior in college. What is this inane thread being started up again?
I think it may be because she is seen in Los Angeles this week and has allegedly transferred to USC
More than one rich student has described Ann Arbor as a "dump" to me; beneath them, full of dull and small-minded "peasants". To a globetrotting rich kid, it is boring, cold and in the middle of nowhere. If you grew up in some rural setting in northern Michigan, maybe Ann Arbor feels special, but rich kids have seen too much. There was a scandal about 10 years ago where rich sororities and fraternities full of international and out of state rich kids totally destroyed some northern Michigan ski resorts. Why? Again, they think Michigan is a "dump". The same kids would never destroy a resort in Vail, Aspen or Park City.
Hopefully THOSE rich people
know that the period goes inside the quotation marks.
Where did you attend college?
Anonymous
01/20/2022 10:39
Subject: Why would Sasha Obama attend University of Michigan?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Sasha is now a junior in college. What is this inane thread being started up again?
I think it may be because she is seen in Los Angeles this week and has allegedly transferred to USC
More than one rich student has described Ann Arbor as a "dump" to me; beneath them, full of dull and small-minded "peasants". To a globetrotting rich kid, it is boring, cold and in the middle of nowhere. If you grew up in some rural setting in northern Michigan, maybe Ann Arbor feels special, but rich kids have seen too much. There was a scandal about 10 years ago where rich sororities and fraternities full of international and out of state rich kids totally destroyed some northern Michigan ski resorts. Why? Again, they think Michigan is a "dump". The same kids would never destroy a resort in Vail, Aspen or Park City.
Do you actually believe these words? I fear I am getting sucked in by a troll.
Anonymous
01/20/2022 10:33
Subject: Why would Sasha Obama attend University of Michigan?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Sasha is now a junior in college. What is this inane thread being started up again?
I think it may be because she is seen in Los Angeles this week and has allegedly transferred to USC
More than one rich student has described Ann Arbor as a "dump" to me; beneath them, full of dull and small-minded "peasants". To a globetrotting rich kid, it is boring, cold and in the middle of nowhere. If you grew up in some rural setting in northern Michigan, maybe Ann Arbor feels special, but rich kids have seen too much. There was a scandal about 10 years ago where rich sororities and fraternities full of international and out of state rich kids totally destroyed some northern Michigan ski resorts. Why? Again, they think Michigan is a "dump". The same kids would never destroy a resort in Vail, Aspen or Park City.
You are pathetic. I would hate to be around anybody like you.