Anonymous
Post 11/20/2018 13:24     Subject: Which Dem can win general election in 2020?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Lots of them can beat Trump. Trump is historically unpopular. Unless he pulls some miracle turn-around, he is going to get his clock cleaned.

Anyone who doesn't admit that is blinded by partisanship or a fool, or both.



The poll numbers are always misleading for a simple reason: the media, which is 80% biased towards liberal Democrats, has been pounding away on Trump 24/7 for a couple years, now. 92% of the articles on Trump have negative spin, according to a recent study. Obama, on the other hand, enjoyed very positive press his entire presidency. No matter how wrong he was, he was lauded, and even got the Nobel Peace Prize without any accomplishments. A better measure would be to take the poll result and divide by 100% - %negative press. The real difference would then be obvious: Trump is far, far more popular than Obama, and for good reason.


Great analysis and frankly no surprise: USA 2016-2018 is doing much better than USA 2014-2016.
Anonymous
Post 11/20/2018 13:07     Subject: Which Dem can win general election in 2020?

Anonymous wrote:Lots of them can beat Trump. Trump is historically unpopular. Unless he pulls some miracle turn-around, he is going to get his clock cleaned.

Anyone who doesn't admit that is blinded by partisanship or a fool, or both.



The poll numbers are always misleading for a simple reason: the media, which is 80% biased towards liberal Democrats, has been pounding away on Trump 24/7 for a couple years, now. 92% of the articles on Trump have negative spin, according to a recent study. Obama, on the other hand, enjoyed very positive press his entire presidency. No matter how wrong he was, he was lauded, and even got the Nobel Peace Prize without any accomplishments. A better measure would be to take the poll result and divide by 100% - %negative press. The real difference would then be obvious: Trump is far, far more popular than Obama, and for good reason.
Anonymous
Post 11/20/2018 10:13     Subject: Which Dem can win general election in 2020?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Franken. I still believe he can mount a comeback and is the only person witty enough to take on Trump at his own game.

He's atoned for his sins. Let the people vote.


Don't be stupid. Franken could not win. His schtick is not going to sell in the south, flyover country, southwest, etc

He's a joke. Literally!
Anonymous
Post 11/20/2018 10:11     Subject: Which Dem can win general election in 2020?

Anonymous wrote:Franken. I still believe he can mount a comeback and is the only person witty enough to take on Trump at his own game.

He's atoned for his sins. Let the people vote.


Don't be stupid. Franken could not win. His schtick is not going to sell in the south, flyover country, southwest, etc
Anonymous
Post 11/20/2018 10:07     Subject: Which Dem can win general election in 2020?

What's wrong with Michelle?
Anonymous
Post 11/20/2018 10:04     Subject: Which Dem can win general election in 2020?

Beto is milquetoast.

He’s more John Edwards, not Barack obama.

Anonymous
Post 11/20/2018 10:02     Subject: Which Dem can win general election in 2020?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Who has the best foreign policy experience? Team that person up with Beto as VP


Foreign policy doesn't get candidates a win. We need a likeable, calm, competent looking person you would feel safe having over for dinner at your house.

Like Amy Klobuchar?

https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/417240-some-of-us-midwesterners-think-maybe-amy-klobuchar-would-do-okay-as
Anonymous
Post 11/20/2018 10:00     Subject: Which Dem can win general election in 2020?

Anonymous wrote:Who has the best foreign policy experience? Team that person up with Beto as VP


Foreign policy doesn't get candidates a win. We need a likeable, calm, competent looking person you would feel safe having over for dinner at your house.
Anonymous
Post 11/20/2018 09:59     Subject: Which Dem can win general election in 2020?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Tim Kaine. LOL.

Tim Kaine is no joke. Unlike the current 25th amendment POTUS.


It'd be very fun to watch a Kaine vs Trump debate, but I'm afraid K's head would literally explode.

He completely lost me with his performance vs. Pence.


Kaine can practice. Any Democratic candidate would need to practice a lot, because Trump doesn't speak like a normal human being.
Anonymous
Post 11/20/2018 09:58     Subject: Which Dem can win general election in 2020?

Who has the best foreign policy experience? Team that person up with Beto as VP
Anonymous
Post 11/20/2018 09:43     Subject: Which Dem can win general election in 2020?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Tim Kaine. LOL.

Tim Kaine is no joke. Unlike the current 25th amendment POTUS.


It'd be very fun to watch a Kaine vs Trump debate, but I'm afraid K's head would literally explode.

He completely lost me with his performance vs. Pence.
Anonymous
Post 11/20/2018 08:56     Subject: Which Dem can win general election in 2020?

Sherrod Brown adds more value not running.

Dems face a steep task to win the senate in 2020.

If Cindy Hyde smith wins in MS, then the split is 53-47.

Alabama will flip back in 2020, so Dems need 4.

Co, Maine, Arizona, Georgia, Iowa, Texas, nc

I can see 3 flipping.

Letting his senate seat go red would make the task all but impossible and without a dem senate, a new dem potus would be doa.
Anonymous
Post 11/18/2018 05:56     Subject: Re:Which Dem can win general election in 2020?

More trial balloons from Sherrod Brown, Senator from Ohio, who just got reelected in a state that is increasingly hostile to Democrats.
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/417213-dems-wo...brown-could-be-their-magic-man


Democrats say Sen. Sherrod Brown is a potential 2020 candidate who could thread the needle and unite a party divided by people debating whether it’s better to move to the left or the center to win back the White House.

Brown is the kind of politician who can appeal to both sides in that debate, which has defined the 2020 conversation in Democratic circles so far.

He’s a progressive who has embraced progressive social views on gay rights and abortion, who just won reelection in Ohio — which increasingly is seen as Trump territory.

Brown might be best known for his liberal economic views, including support for a higher minimum wage and opposition to the Trump tax law. But on trade, he’s long espoused positions similar to Trump’s, which have been popular with his political base.
Anonymous
Post 11/16/2018 00:53     Subject: Which Dem can win general election in 2020?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:One from the Midwest path

One from the southwest/mountain path.

I’d prefer the Midwest banner holder to be on the top of ticket.

So klobuchar or Sherrod Brown at the top of the ticket
Mm
Beto, cortez-masto, Bullock, Michael Bennett in the vp pool

Maybe it's just me, but I now have a visceral negative reaction to anyone from the Midwest or South.


Pp you are quoting.

I agree with you in general but politics is about branding to the rubes.

But yes, in my personal life, i share your aversion to these people.
Anonymous
Post 11/16/2018 00:21     Subject: Which Dem can win general election in 2020?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:One from the Midwest path

One from the southwest/mountain path.

I’d prefer the Midwest banner holder to be on the top of ticket.

So klobuchar or Sherrod Brown at the top of the ticket
Mm
Beto, cortez-masto, Bullock, Michael Bennett in the vp pool

Maybe it's just me, but I now have a visceral negative reaction to anyone from the Midwest or South.

Why?