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Anonymous wrote:They left out a lot of details. Which door did the murderer break through? Which door did the decedent use to enter the house before she was shot? How long after the murder did the man show up looking for his mistress?

I briefly wondered if the man killed them both. Seems weird he showed up at the house at that particular time.

He was waiting in a restaurant to meet Jennair when she broke into Merediths back door. In short, he kept giving her hope whereby she taped him to find out the real story. She admitted she wanted to know if/what plans he was making with Meredith. And Mark kept telling her they only had sex a few times. Apparently she found a condom in Meredith's garbage and sent it to Mark at the restaurant which really freaked him out because then he knew she was at Meredith's home. He couldn't get a hold of Meredith and promptly went over there where he found them both dead. You can Google a lot of the stories, but mainly they are from Marks point of view. From her Obit she seemed to have friends, and her co-workers thought very highly of her. Unlike some of the lies Mark wrote in his book which sucked btw.

In the podcast, she had her own divorce coach and both knew they had to wait maybe another month for the statutory requirement to file. Jennair was betrayed and lied to - but she wasn’t blindsided. She wasn’t stalked, she was the stalker. She was stalking and plotting murder for at minimum weeks, after buying a gun and going to a shooting range.

The affair might never have led to a relationship. Jennair didn’t even give herself a chance to have the last laugh and take most of the money - a real possibility since they were married a long time, she didn’t have a job, and she handled all of their paperwork. The affair started in December and she murdered and committed suicide in April. She was on a fast timeline — because she was a psycho who would not accept a divorce. What facts contradict this? What stalking was she subject to? Interesting that the posters claiming this can’t answer.

I agree she had plenty of time to get her act together. At least get a job, but instead she grew more depressed and obsessed with Mark and Meredith. I think no doubt Meredith stalked their marriage, and Mark. No proof, but I believe as soon as she saw Marks Resume, and saw him on social media she decided to interview him. Once she interviewed him I believe she knew right away she would try and date him. Her own marriage was failing, plus she thought Mark was handsome. Figured at fifty probably had money to. She set out her plan and I'm sure she saw his FB with his wife. I think purposely breaking up a family, or marriage is definitely considered stalking. Within 2 weeks she was already hitting on Mark her employee. I think Mark and Meredith were bullies who enjoyed the cat and mouse games they were playing. From his book they would hide the cars, and do all kinds of things figuring Jennair was spying on them. Her calling and texting a married man is stalking in my book because she has no business doing that. She's calling someone's husband who also owns that phone. And she'd make sure to call when she knew Jennair would be there. Yes Meredith whatever word you use was a predator from day 1. No other applicants had a chance at that job once she researched Mark. Meredith went after Mark with the intent of destroying their marriage. And Jennairs life as well. A predator or a stalker is what Meredith was.

Stop defending her and her actions.

I imagine had Jennair only murdered Meredith and maybe Mark she would be sitting on PA's death row right now b/c she committed cold-blooded and calculated murder. Hers was not a crime of passion.

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Anonymous wrote:They left out a lot of details. Which door did the murderer break through? Which door did the decedent use to enter the house before she was shot? How long after the murder did the man show up looking for his mistress?

I briefly wondered if the man killed them both. Seems weird he showed up at the house at that particular time.

He was waiting in a restaurant to meet Jennair when she broke into Merediths back door. In short, he kept giving her hope whereby she taped him to find out the real story. She admitted she wanted to know if/what plans he was making with Meredith. And Mark kept telling her they only had sex a few times. Apparently she found a condom in Meredith's garbage and sent it to Mark at the restaurant which really freaked him out because then he knew she was at Meredith's home. He couldn't get a hold of Meredith and promptly went over there where he found them both dead. You can Google a lot of the stories, but mainly they are from Marks point of view. From her Obit she seemed to have friends, and her co-workers thought very highly of her. Unlike some of the lies Mark wrote in his book which sucked btw.

In the podcast, she had her own divorce coach and both knew they had to wait maybe another month for the statutory requirement to file. Jennair was betrayed and lied to - but she wasn’t blindsided. She wasn’t stalked, she was the stalker. She was stalking and plotting murder for at minimum weeks, after buying a gun and going to a shooting range.

The affair might never have led to a relationship. Jennair didn’t even give herself a chance to have the last laugh and take most of the money - a real possibility since they were married a long time, she didn’t have a job, and she handled all of their paperwork. The affair started in December and she murdered and committed suicide in April. She was on a fast timeline — because she was a psycho who would not accept a divorce. What facts contradict this? What stalking was she subject to? Interesting that the posters claiming this can’t answer.

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Anonymous wrote:They left out a lot of details. Which door did the murderer break through? Which door did the decedent use to enter the house before she was shot? How long after the murder did the man show up looking for his mistress?

I briefly wondered if the man killed them both. Seems weird he showed up at the house at that particular time.

He was waiting in a restaurant to meet Jennair when she broke into Merediths back door. In short, he kept giving her hope whereby she taped him to find out the real story. She admitted she wanted to know if/what plans he was making with Meredith. And Mark kept telling her they only had sex a few times. Apparently she found a condom in Meredith's garbage and sent it to Mark at the restaurant which really freaked him out because then he knew she was at Meredith's home. He couldn't get a hold of Meredith and promptly went over there where he found them both dead. You can Google a lot of the stories, but mainly they are from Marks point of view. From her Obit she seemed to have friends, and her co-workers thought very highly of her. Unlike some of the lies Mark wrote in his book which sucked btw.

DP. Well she chose not to be here to tell her side of the story. Like the PP, it's easier for me to imagine that Mark killed her. I still can't believe someone would kill themselves and someone else for a man like Mark.

Anonymous wrote:They left out a lot of details. Which door did the murderer break through? Which door did the decedent use to enter the house before she was shot? How long after the murder did the man show up looking for his mistress?

I briefly wondered if the man killed them both. Seems weird he showed up at the house at that particular time.

He was waiting in a restaurant to meet Jennair when she broke into Merediths back door. In short, he kept giving her hope whereby she taped him to find out the real story. She admitted she wanted to know if/what plans he was making with Meredith. And Mark kept telling her they only had sex a few times. Apparently she found a condom in Meredith's garbage and sent it to Mark at the restaurant which really freaked him out because then he knew she was at Meredith's home. He couldn't get a hold of Meredith and promptly went over there where he found them both dead. You can Google a lot of the stories, but mainly they are from Marks point of view. From her Obit she seemed to have friends, and her co-workers thought very highly of her. Unlike some of the lies Mark wrote in his book which sucked btw.

Anonymous wrote:Based on looks alone, I would’ve gone for Meredith. She had a beautiful smile. She was pretty and I’m partial to brunettes.

Yep pretty on the outside, ugly and evil on the inside!

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Anonymous wrote:No Jennair wasn't a psycho. All 3 had issues within their character. Jennair did become obsessed with revenge when she should have hung on. Mark was going to keep Jennair close in his life, and Meredith already was melt downs about that. She could have enjoyed Meredith's karma while making her own life better.

Meredith’s karma by divorcing in a sexless marriage and getting a better job at a better university?

Mark was weak, and Jennair The Murderer was a messed up person, described by the friend who got her cat’s ashes (because of course Jennair The Stable Heroine wanted someone else to kill her cat after she murdered Meredith and shot herself) as controlling and rigid from childhood forward. Yeah, she was untroubled. Okay.

Jennair’s life can really best be defined by how it ended. It’s terribly sad. Had she found an attorney that knocked her husband on his ass for having her move states after he’d fallen for some other woman, she could have been anything. She could have worked in animal welfare, invested without him outspending his salary, found a man with a stronger sex drive. She set all hope on fire because she could not understand she did not own her dope of an assy husband. End of.

For sure Jennair should have gone after mark legally. I divorced after 10 years and got alimony for 5 back in the day. No cheating involved, but I put myself #1.

Yes Meredith got her karma for stalking a married couple, and her part in making the wife miserable. Like the wife or not she was bullied. From what I read their sex life was fine until Meredith started stalking this couple. Still not the most important thing in a 24 year marriage. I say they were all troubled which lead to the perfect storm. Each one of them made horrible choices which led to the bad outcome. That's the entire point IMO.

How was the wife bullied; how was the couple stalked? I listened to Bad Bad Thing and didn’t hear that, what events are you discussing? Jennair stalked them.

Based on looks alone, I would’ve gone for Meredith. She had a beautiful smile. She was pretty and I’m partial to brunettes.

Anonymous wrote:They left out a lot of details. Which door did the murderer break through? Which door did the decedent use to enter the house before she was shot? How long after the murder did the man show up looking for his mistress?

I briefly wondered if the man killed them both. Seems weird he showed up at the house at that particular time.

Those details were already flushed out by detectives. That wasn’t the point of the podcast.

They left out a lot of details. Which door did the murderer break through? Which door did the decedent use to enter the house before she was shot? How long after the murder did the man show up looking for his mistress?

I briefly wondered if the man killed them both. Seems weird he showed up at the house at that particular time.

Thanks for the podcast recommendation. Hearing Jennair in her own voice and words is very interesting.

I’ll finish it tomorrow

Anonymous wrote:Meredith was the worst W ever. If there's a up side to this story, it's M will never destroy another married couple again.
Mark from what I read recently is reaping what he sowed.

There’s a certain type of person that gets off in harassing marrieds.

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Anonymous wrote:No Jennair wasn't a psycho. All 3 had issues within their character. Jennair did become obsessed with revenge when she should have hung on. Mark was going to keep Jennair close in his life, and Meredith already was melt downs about that. She could have enjoyed Meredith's karma while making her own life better.

Meredith’s karma by divorcing in a sexless marriage and getting a better job at a better university?

Mark was weak, and Jennair The Murderer was a messed up person, described by the friend who got her cat’s ashes (because of course Jennair The Stable Heroine wanted someone else to kill her cat after she murdered Meredith and shot herself) as controlling and rigid from childhood forward. Yeah, she was untroubled. Okay.

Jennair’s life can really best be defined by how it ended. It’s terribly sad. Had she found an attorney that knocked her husband on his ass for having her move states after he’d fallen for some other woman, she could have been anything. She could have worked in animal welfare, invested without him outspending his salary, found a man with a stronger sex drive. She set all hope on fire because she could not understand she did not own her dope of an assy husband. End of.

For sure Jennair should have gone after mark legally. I divorced after 10 years and got alimony for 5 back in the day. No cheating involved, but I put myself #1.

Yes Meredith got her karma for stalking a married couple, and her part in making the wife miserable. Like the wife or not she was bullied. From what I read their sex life was fine until Meredith started stalking this couple. Still not the most important thing in a 24 year marriage. I say they were all troubled which lead to the perfect storm. Each one of them made horrible choices which led to the bad outcome. That's the entire point IMO.

Anonymous wrote:No Jennair wasn't a psycho. All 3 had issues within their character. Jennair did become obsessed with revenge when she should have hung on. Mark was going to keep Jennair close in his life, and Meredith already was melt downs about that. She could have enjoyed Meredith's karma while making her own life better.

Meredith’s karma by divorcing in a sexless marriage and getting a better job at a better university?

Mark was weak, and Jennair The Murderer was a messed up person, described by the friend who got her cat’s ashes (because of course Jennair The Stable Heroine wanted someone else to kill her cat after she murdered Meredith and shot herself) as controlling and rigid from childhood forward. Yeah, she was untroubled. Okay.

Jennair’s life can really best be defined by how it ended. It’s terribly sad. Had she found an attorney that knocked her husband on his ass for having her move states after he’d fallen for some other woman, she could have been anything. She could have worked in animal welfare, invested without him outspending his salary, found a man with a stronger sex drive. She set all hope on fire because she could not understand she did not own her dope of an assy husband. End of.