Anonymous wrote:The sick thing is that I believe that they did this to him intentionally. It was "witchy", and they like that.
What I know about this is that they put him in a state that allows him to breathe on his own, but otherwise in a coma. To do that, to get him in that exact spot, requires "expertise". The Chinese have done similar things to death penalty victims to be able to use the organs later. I suspect that his brain oxygen deprivation was carefully carried out, but it must have been brutal for him.

Anonymous wrote:The sick thing is that I believe that they did this to him intentionally. It was "witchy", and they like that.
What I know about this is that they put him in a state that allows him to breathe on his own, but otherwise in a coma. To do that, to get him in that exact spot, requires "expertise". The Chinese have done similar things to death penalty victims to be able to use the organs later. I suspect that his brain oxygen deprivation was carefully carried out, but it must have been brutal for him.

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Anonymous wrote:" I'm a rich white person. And, BTW, I can 100% guarantee you that while my teenage kids might do "something stupid" while in high school and college, they will not play tourist in North Korea."


I was wondering how long until Sanctimommy showed up!

Sanctimonny is "my kids only eat a locally sourced, vegan diet". "I would never pay for my kid to go on a tour of North Korea" sets a very, very low bar for common sense parenting.

Seriously. WTH?

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Anonymous wrote:" I'm a rich white person. And, BTW, I can 100% guarantee you that while my teenage kids might do "something stupid" while in high school and college, they will not play tourist in North Korea."


I was wondering how long until Sanctimommy showed up!

Sanctimonny is "my kids only eat a locally sourced, vegan diet". "I would never pay for my kid to go on a tour of North Korea" sets a very, very low bar for common sense parenting.

Anonymous wrote:" I'm a rich white person. And, BTW, I can 100% guarantee you that while my teenage kids might do "something stupid" while in high school and college, they will not play tourist in North Korea."


I was wondering how long until Sanctimommy showed up!

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Anonymous wrote:Why are people blaming the Obama Admin if Americans are not allowed to travel there? Or are discouraged from going there.

People who don't understand a concept of personal responsibility always blame someone else.
If the boy was kidnaped by NK intelligence and taken to NK, that would be different.

I don't like obama at all, but what happened to this boy was self inflicted.
Still sorry for him and his family. Doctors said he has extensive brain tissue damage. Awful.

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Are liberals blaming the black mother on welfare with six kids and no father(s) for her irresponsible life choices? Or are they talking about systemic racism, the history of slavery, etc., etc.?

This kid chose to be reckless. Those women didn't choose to grow up in poverty. Not pardoning their choices, but it's way more complicated than his case.

A college kid goes to NK (admittedly something most people would not do) for a handful of days and the consequences are his fault but a woman who grows up in poverty, has multiple children she cannot afford with no father around, thereby messing up those kids' lives and expecting the taxpayer to take of them, gets a free pass to make stupid decisions for the rest of her life? And then when her children make the same poor choices because they grew up in poverty and the cycle continues, they get a free pass too?

He went to NK without his parent's knowledge and against government warnings. THEN, he broke the law there. Pretty reckless and illegal.

The women you despise may have made some bad choices, but aren't doing anything quite so reckless or illegal. They really aren't relevant here at all.

Not the poster you're responding to, but first....that poster didn't say she despises welfare recipients,,,,and two, the taxpayers are paying for her bad choices. So even if she's not doing anything illegal, it's still costing us to house her and her children, feed her and her children, and provide medical care for her and her children, educate the children, give them free lunch and breakfast, etc., etc.

Also, growing up in poverty is not an excuse. Both my parents were dirt-poor, and they made responsible decisions. They are now middle-class. (Upper-middle, actually.)

I'm so fed up with liberals who make excuse after excuse for welfare recipients and show absolutely no compassion for this college kid.

Good lord, you all are living in the past. Don't you remember when welfare was overhauled in the 90s?! You clearly do not know anyone on welfare because there is no long term welfare anymore unless you are talking SSDI. SSDI is primarily welfare for white people. Many American white men who are opioid addicts get on SSDI because they are too lazy to learn a new trade or too high to care. They just live off my tax money doing nothing but getting high.

Good Lord, don't you know that Obama walked that back? He expanded he definition of "work" in order to get more people onto welfare. It's the liberal dream to have as many people dependent as possible.

All I see from you is a rant against white people. Still no compassion for this college kid or his poor parents. Is it because he's white?

Nope. Because he behaved with reckless stupidity.

Do you care about the other three Americans still in North Korea this much, even though they are of Asian descent? At least a couple were there semi-legitimately, teaching at a university. Or do you only get this up in arms about rich white men?

And you continue to display your racism toward whites. Only this time, you threw in "rich". What? Do you figure that all white people are rich? Isn't that like assuming all black people are poor?

And to answer your question, if the other three are returned in comas, I will feel every bit as much compassion for them as I do for this college kid. The race of the prisoners never entered my mind. But apparently, that's where your mind goes. Racist, much?

Yeah, kind of how expensive it was to bring Bergdahl home.


Bergdahl was active duty military. And they have a do not rest until every last solider/ POW comes home, dead or alive, motto. They are still looking for Vietnam era soldiers-- dead or alive. In Bergdahl's case, I don't think it was worth it. But, that's not really my place to say, since I have never served. I defer to the military on Bergdahl, because getting him home, even if he was a traitor, is part of their code.

Most people recognize that there is a difference between disappearing while being active duty military and disappearing while being a stupid tourist. Now, Bergdahl was being stupid and traitorous active duty military. But the military still wanted him. And he was considered active duty military when he came back.

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Anonymous wrote:Why are people blaming the Obama Admin if Americans are not allowed to travel there? Or are discouraged from going there.

People who don't understand a concept of personal responsibility always blame someone else.
If the boy was kidnaped by NK intelligence and taken to NK, that would be different.

I don't like obama at all, but what happened to this boy was self inflicted.
Still sorry for him and his family. Doctors said he has extensive brain tissue damage. Awful.

Exactly

Are liberals blaming the black mother on welfare with six kids and no father(s) for her irresponsible life choices? Or are they talking about systemic racism, the history of slavery, etc., etc.?

This kid chose to be reckless. Those women didn't choose to grow up in poverty. Not pardoning their choices, but it's way more complicated than his case.

A college kid goes to NK (admittedly something most people would not do) for a handful of days and the consequences are his fault but a woman who grows up in poverty, has multiple children she cannot afford with no father around, thereby messing up those kids' lives and expecting the taxpayer to take of them, gets a free pass to make stupid decisions for the rest of her life? And then when her children make the same poor choices because they grew up in poverty and the cycle continues, they get a free pass too?

He went to NK without his parent's knowledge and against government warnings. THEN, he broke the law there. Pretty reckless and illegal.

The women you despise may have made some bad choices, but aren't doing anything quite so reckless or illegal. They really aren't relevant here at all.

Not the poster you're responding to, but first....that poster didn't say she despises welfare recipients,,,,and two, the taxpayers are paying for her bad choices. So even if she's not doing anything illegal, it's still costing us to house her and her children, feed her and her children, and provide medical care for her and her children, educate the children, give them free lunch and breakfast, etc., etc.

Also, growing up in poverty is not an excuse. Both my parents were dirt-poor, and they made responsible decisions. They are now middle-class. (Upper-middle, actually.)

I'm so fed up with liberals who make excuse after excuse for welfare recipients and show absolutely no compassion for this college kid.

Good lord, you all are living in the past. Don't you remember when welfare was overhauled in the 90s?! You clearly do not know anyone on welfare because there is no long term welfare anymore unless you are talking SSDI. SSDI is primarily welfare for white people. Many American white men who are opioid addicts get on SSDI because they are too lazy to learn a new trade or too high to care. They just live off my tax money doing nothing but getting high.

Good Lord, don't you know that Obama walked that back? He expanded he definition of "work" in order to get more people onto welfare. It's the liberal dream to have as many people dependent as possible.

All I see from you is a rant against white people. Still no compassion for this college kid or his poor parents. Is it because he's white?

Nope. Because he behaved with reckless stupidity.

Do you care about the other three Americans still in North Korea this much, even though they are of Asian descent? At least a couple were there semi-legitimately, teaching at a university. Or do you only get this up in arms about rich white men?

DP here. Hmm, have they been tortured into a coma? If so, then yes i have utmost sympathy and hope they are immediately released on humanitarian grounds.

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Anonymous wrote:Why are people blaming the Obama Admin if Americans are not allowed to travel there? Or are discouraged from going there.

People who don't understand a concept of personal responsibility always blame someone else.
If the boy was kidnaped by NK intelligence and taken to NK, that would be different.

I don't like obama at all, but what happened to this boy was self inflicted.
Still sorry for him and his family. Doctors said he has extensive brain tissue damage. Awful.

Exactly

Are liberals blaming the black mother on welfare with six kids and no father(s) for her irresponsible life choices? Or are they talking about systemic racism, the history of slavery, etc., etc.?

This kid chose to be reckless. Those women didn't choose to grow up in poverty. Not pardoning their choices, but it's way more complicated than his case.

A college kid goes to NK (admittedly something most people would not do) for a handful of days and the consequences are his fault but a woman who grows up in poverty, has multiple children she cannot afford with no father around, thereby messing up those kids' lives and expecting the taxpayer to take of them, gets a free pass to make stupid decisions for the rest of her life? And then when her children make the same poor choices because they grew up in poverty and the cycle continues, they get a free pass too?

He went to NK without his parent's knowledge and against government warnings. THEN, he broke the law there. Pretty reckless and illegal.

The women you despise may have made some bad choices, but aren't doing anything quite so reckless or illegal. They really aren't relevant here at all.

Not the poster you're responding to, but first....that poster didn't say she despises welfare recipients,,,,and two, the taxpayers are paying for her bad choices. So even if she's not doing anything illegal, it's still costing us to house her and her children, feed her and her children, and provide medical care for her and her children, educate the children, give them free lunch and breakfast, etc., etc.

Also, growing up in poverty is not an excuse. Both my parents were dirt-poor, and they made responsible decisions. They are now middle-class. (Upper-middle, actually.)

I'm so fed up with liberals who make excuse after excuse for welfare recipients and show absolutely no compassion for this college kid.

Good lord, you all are living in the past. Don't you remember when welfare was overhauled in the 90s?! You clearly do not know anyone on welfare because there is no long term welfare anymore unless you are talking SSDI. SSDI is primarily welfare for white people. Many American white men who are opioid addicts get on SSDI because they are too lazy to learn a new trade or too high to care. They just live off my tax money doing nothing but getting high.

Good Lord, don't you know that Obama walked that back? He expanded he definition of "work" in order to get more people onto welfare. It's the liberal dream to have as many people dependent as possible.

All I see from you is a rant against white people. Still no compassion for this college kid or his poor parents. Is it because he's white?

Nope. Because he behaved with reckless stupidity.

Do you care about the other three Americans still in North Korea this much, even though they are of Asian descent? At least a couple were there semi-legitimately, teaching at a university. Or do you only get this up in arms about rich white men?

And you continue to display your racism toward whites. Only this time, you threw in "rich". What? Do you figure that all white people are rich? Isn't that like assuming all black people are poor?

And to answer your question, if the other three are returned in comas, I will feel every bit as much compassion for them as I do for this college kid. The race of the prisoners never entered my mind. But apparently, that's where your mind goes. Racist, much?

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Anonymous wrote:Why are people blaming the Obama Admin if Americans are not allowed to travel there? Or are discouraged from going there.

People who don't understand a concept of personal responsibility always blame someone else.
If the boy was kidnaped by NK intelligence and taken to NK, that would be different.

I don't like obama at all, but what happened to this boy was self inflicted.
Still sorry for him and his family. Doctors said he has extensive brain tissue damage. Awful.

Exactly

Are liberals blaming the black mother on welfare with six kids and no father(s) for her irresponsible life choices? Or are they talking about systemic racism, the history of slavery, etc., etc.?

This kid chose to be reckless. Those women didn't choose to grow up in poverty. Not pardoning their choices, but it's way more complicated than his case.

A college kid goes to NK (admittedly something most people would not do) for a handful of days and the consequences are his fault but a woman who grows up in poverty, has multiple children she cannot afford with no father around, thereby messing up those kids' lives and expecting the taxpayer to take of them, gets a free pass to make stupid decisions for the rest of her life? And then when her children make the same poor choices because they grew up in poverty and the cycle continues, they get a free pass too?

He went to NK without his parent's knowledge and against government warnings. THEN, he broke the law there. Pretty reckless and illegal.

The women you despise may have made some bad choices, but aren't doing anything quite so reckless or illegal. They really aren't relevant here at all.

Not the poster you're responding to, but first....that poster didn't say she despises welfare recipients,,,,and two, the taxpayers are paying for her bad choices. So even if she's not doing anything illegal, it's still costing us to house her and her children, feed her and her children, and provide medical care for her and her children, educate the children, give them free lunch and breakfast, etc., etc.

Also, growing up in poverty is not an excuse. Both my parents were dirt-poor, and they made responsible decisions. They are now middle-class. (Upper-middle, actually.)

I'm so fed up with liberals who make excuse after excuse for welfare recipients and show absolutely no compassion for this college kid.

Good lord, you all are living in the past. Don't you remember when welfare was overhauled in the 90s?! You clearly do not know anyone on welfare because there is no long term welfare anymore unless you are talking SSDI. SSDI is primarily welfare for white people. Many American white men who are opioid addicts get on SSDI because they are too lazy to learn a new trade or too high to care. They just live off my tax money doing nothing but getting high.

Good Lord, don't you know that Obama walked that back? He expanded he definition of "work" in order to get more people onto welfare. It's the liberal dream to have as many people dependent as possible.

All I see from you is a rant against white people. Still no compassion for this college kid or his poor parents. Is it because he's white?

Nope. Because he behaved with reckless stupidity.

Do you care about the other three Americans still in North Korea this much, even though they are of Asian descent? At least a couple were there semi-legitimately, teaching at a university. Or do you only get this up in arms about rich white men?

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Anonymous wrote:Why are people blaming the Obama Admin if Americans are not allowed to travel there? Or are discouraged from going there.

People who don't understand a concept of personal responsibility always blame someone else.
If the boy was kidnaped by NK intelligence and taken to NK, that would be different.

I don't like obama at all, but what happened to this boy was self inflicted.
Still sorry for him and his family. Doctors said he has extensive brain tissue damage. Awful.

Exactly

Are liberals blaming the black mother on welfare with six kids and no father(s) for her irresponsible life choices? Or are they talking about systemic racism, the history of slavery, etc., etc.?

This kid chose to be reckless. Those women didn't choose to grow up in poverty. Not pardoning their choices, but it's way more complicated than his case.

A college kid goes to NK (admittedly something most people would not do) for a handful of days and the consequences are his fault but a woman who grows up in poverty, has multiple children she cannot afford with no father around, thereby messing up those kids' lives and expecting the taxpayer to take of them, gets a free pass to make stupid decisions for the rest of her life? And then when her children make the same poor choices because they grew up in poverty and the cycle continues, they get a free pass too?

He went to NK without his parent's knowledge and against government warnings. THEN, he broke the law there. Pretty reckless and illegal.

The women you despise may have made some bad choices, but aren't doing anything quite so reckless or illegal. They really aren't relevant here at all.

Not the poster you're responding to, but first....that poster didn't say she despises welfare recipients,,,,and two, the taxpayers are paying for her bad choices. So even if she's not doing anything illegal, it's still costing us to house her and her children, feed her and her children, and provide medical care for her and her children, educate the children, give them free lunch and breakfast, etc., etc.

Also, growing up in poverty is not an excuse. Both my parents were dirt-poor, and they made responsible decisions. They are now middle-class. (Upper-middle, actually.)

I'm so fed up with liberals who make excuse after excuse for welfare recipients and show absolutely no compassion for this college kid.

Good lord, you all are living in the past. Don't you remember when welfare was overhauled in the 90s?! You clearly do not know anyone on welfare because there is no long term welfare anymore unless you are talking SSDI. SSDI is primarily welfare for white people. Many American white men who are opioid addicts get on SSDI because they are too lazy to learn a new trade or too high to care. They just live off my tax money doing nothing but getting high.

Good Lord, don't you know that Obama walked that back? He expanded he definition of "work" in order to get more people onto welfare. It's the liberal dream to have as many people dependent as possible.

All I see from you is a rant against white people. Still no compassion for this college kid or his poor parents. Is it because he's white?

Nope. Because he behaved with reckless stupidity.

Do you care about the other three Americans still in North Korea this much, even though they are of Asian descent? At least a couple were there semi-legitimately, teaching at a university. Or do you only get this up in arms about rich white men?

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Anonymous wrote:Why are people blaming the Obama Admin if Americans are not allowed to travel there? Or are discouraged from going there.

People who don't understand a concept of personal responsibility always blame someone else.
If the boy was kidnaped by NK intelligence and taken to NK, that would be different.

I don't like obama at all, but what happened to this boy was self inflicted.
Still sorry for him and his family. Doctors said he has extensive brain tissue damage. Awful.

Exactly

Are liberals blaming the black mother on welfare with six kids and no father(s) for her irresponsible life choices? Or are they talking about systemic racism, the history of slavery, etc., etc.?

This kid chose to be reckless. Those women didn't choose to grow up in poverty. Not pardoning their choices, but it's way more complicated than his case.

A college kid goes to NK (admittedly something most people would not do) for a handful of days and the consequences are his fault but a woman who grows up in poverty, has multiple children she cannot afford with no father around, thereby messing up those kids' lives and expecting the taxpayer to take of them, gets a free pass to make stupid decisions for the rest of her life? And then when her children make the same poor choices because they grew up in poverty and the cycle continues, they get a free pass too?

He went to NK without his parent's knowledge and against government warnings. THEN, he broke the law there. Pretty reckless and illegal.

The women you despise may have made some bad choices, but aren't doing anything quite so reckless or illegal. They really aren't relevant here at all.

Not the poster you're responding to, but first....that poster didn't say she despises welfare recipients,,,,and two, the taxpayers are paying for her bad choices. So even if she's not doing anything illegal, it's still costing us to house her and her children, feed her and her children, and provide medical care for her and her children, educate the children, give them free lunch and breakfast, etc., etc.

Also, growing up in poverty is not an excuse. Both my parents were dirt-poor, and they made responsible decisions. They are now middle-class. (Upper-middle, actually.)

I'm so fed up with liberals who make excuse after excuse for welfare recipients and show absolutely no compassion for this college kid.

Good lord, you all are living in the past. Don't you remember when welfare was overhauled in the 90s?! You clearly do not know anyone on welfare because there is no long term welfare anymore unless you are talking SSDI. SSDI is primarily welfare for white people. Many American white men who are opioid addicts get on SSDI because they are too lazy to learn a new trade or too high to care. They just live off my tax money doing nothing but getting high.

Good Lord, don't you know that Obama walked that back? He expanded he definition of "work" in order to get more people onto welfare. It's the liberal dream to have as many people dependent as possible.

All I see from you is a rant against white people. Still no compassion for this college kid or his poor parents. Is it because he's white?

Nope. Because he behaved with reckless stupidity.

Do you care about the other three Americans still in North Korea this much, even though they are of Asian descent? At least a couple were there semi-legitimately, teaching at a university. Or do you only get this up in arms about rich white men?

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Anonymous wrote:Why are people blaming the Obama Admin if Americans are not allowed to travel there? Or are discouraged from going there.

People who don't understand a concept of personal responsibility always blame someone else.
If the boy was kidnaped by NK intelligence and taken to NK, that would be different.

I don't like obama at all, but what happened to this boy was self inflicted.
Still sorry for him and his family. Doctors said he has extensive brain tissue damage. Awful.

Exactly

Are liberals blaming the black mother on welfare with six kids and no father(s) for her irresponsible life choices? Or are they talking about systemic racism, the history of slavery, etc., etc.?

This kid chose to be reckless. Those women didn't choose to grow up in poverty. Not pardoning their choices, but it's way more complicated than his case.

A college kid goes to NK (admittedly something most people would not do) for a handful of days and the consequences are his fault but a woman who grows up in poverty, has multiple children she cannot afford with no father around, thereby messing up those kids' lives and expecting the taxpayer to take of them, gets a free pass to make stupid decisions for the rest of her life? And then when her children make the same poor choices because they grew up in poverty and the cycle continues, they get a free pass too?

He went to NK without his parent's knowledge and against government warnings. THEN, he broke the law there. Pretty reckless and illegal.

The women you despise may have made some bad choices, but aren't doing anything quite so reckless or illegal. They really aren't relevant here at all.

Not the poster you're responding to, but first....that poster didn't say she despises welfare recipients,,,,and two, the taxpayers are paying for her bad choices. So even if she's not doing anything illegal, it's still costing us to house her and her children, feed her and her children, and provide medical care for her and her children, educate the children, give them free lunch and breakfast, etc., etc.

Also, growing up in poverty is not an excuse. Both my parents were dirt-poor, and they made responsible decisions. They are now middle-class. (Upper-middle, actually.)

I'm so fed up with liberals who make excuse after excuse for welfare recipients and show absolutely no compassion for this college kid.

Good lord, you all are living in the past. Don't you remember when welfare was overhauled in the 90s?! You clearly do not know anyone on welfare because there is no long term welfare anymore unless you are talking SSDI. SSDI is primarily welfare for white people. Many American white men who are opioid addicts get on SSDI because they are too lazy to learn a new trade or too high to care. They just live off my tax money doing nothing but getting high.

Good Lord, don't you know that Obama walked that back? He expanded he definition of "work" in order to get more people onto welfare. It's the liberal dream to have as many people dependent as possible.

All I see from you is a rant against white people. Still no compassion for this college kid or his poor parents. Is it because he's white?