I think it will be interesting to see if there is more to the story of Kate and her mom. Maybe mom isn't naturally thin. Maybe mom has disordered eating too or she has a diet pill addiction. Maybe the actors resent of the dad for dying isn't as irrational as it seems. It is normal for a kid to be angry a parent left them so early, even through dealth. Maybe though the father was an addict.

I actually hope the adoptive father was an addict. Don't just make Russell's black parents the addicts. Addiction crosses all races and SES, the drugs just might be different. It would make for an interesting story to have them dealing with the damage of addiction.

Anonymous wrote:Why aren't we talking about jacks sacrifice for Randall? It was beautifully done. I wrote before about how he accepts who he is because he loves it and not because he has to.

What?

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Anonymous wrote:I was also intrigued by what Kate was saying about her estrangement with her mother. Or maybe they're not exactly "estranged," just not close. Very sad that she grew up seeing her slim, pretty mother and comparing herself to her. I wonder what you're supposed to do if you're the mother in that dynamic. Clearly, Rebecca was as loving and caring as she could be. Interesting that Kate said how much she regretted letting that envy of her mother damage their relationship. I'll be interested to see how the story develops between Kate and Rebecca.

Really? I think that one is the least interesting aspect of the show

I feel completely the opposite. I think Kate is one of the more interesting characters.

Why aren't we talking about jacks sacrifice for Randall? It was beautifully done. I wrote before about how he accepts who he is because he loves it and not because he has to.

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Anonymous wrote:I was also intrigued by what Kate was saying about her estrangement with her mother. Or maybe they're not exactly "estranged," just not close. Very sad that she grew up seeing her slim, pretty mother and comparing herself to her. I wonder what you're supposed to do if you're the mother in that dynamic. Clearly, Rebecca was as loving and caring as she could be. Interesting that Kate said how much she regretted letting that envy of her mother damage their relationship. I'll be interested to see how the story develops between Kate and Rebecca.

Really? I think that one is the least interesting aspect of the show

DP but it got very interesting when it was intersected by the Jamie Gertz character and her similar but different mother/daughter dynamic. I'm not ovwerweight and neither is my kid, but it's a parenting conundrum to which I can relate: how do you raise a kid to be a functioning adult when they're understandably resentful of you? How can you be a role model for a problem you don't face?

Kate's interaction with her employers daughter also made me wonder if she would have done the same thing if the girl weren't overweight herself.

Anonymous wrote:I was also intrigued by what Kate was saying about her estrangement with her mother. Or maybe they're not exactly "estranged," just not close. Very sad that she grew up seeing her slim, pretty mother and comparing herself to her. I wonder what you're supposed to do if you're the mother in that dynamic. Clearly, Rebecca was as loving and caring as she could be. Interesting that Kate said how much she regretted letting that envy of her mother damage their relationship. I'll be interested to see how the story develops between Kate and Rebecca.

Really? I think that one is the least interesting aspect of the show

I was also intrigued by what Kate was saying about her estrangement with her mother. Or maybe they're not exactly "estranged," just not close. Very sad that she grew up seeing her slim, pretty mother and comparing herself to her. I wonder what you're supposed to do if you're the mother in that dynamic. Clearly, Rebecca was as loving and caring as she could be. Interesting that Kate said how much she regretted letting that envy of her mother damage their relationship. I'll be interested to see how the story develops between Kate and Rebecca.

Anonymous wrote:Yeah my thought during all of that is "she is psycho." I think it's especially provoking to see him adjust from LA/light hearted parties to NY/stage acting personalities. So sensitive. So deep. And crazy. With more expectations.

I think that's interesting too. And that he's an actor completely removed from his feelings

Anonymous wrote:Has anyone mentioned the cringe-worthy memorial service scene? I realize Kevin's British co-star took him there for a reason (to make him get in touch with his deeper feelings), but it was so awful to watch. She's one cold fish.

I thought it was funny and just about worked. It could have been a lot more awful, but the actress playing the widow was great, I thought and that helped the two other actors a lot.

Yeah my thought during all of that is "she is psycho." I think it's especially provoking to see him adjust from LA/light hearted parties to NY/stage acting personalities. So sensitive. So deep. And crazy. With more expectations.

Has anyone mentioned the cringe-worthy memorial service scene? I realize Kevin's British co-star took him there for a reason (to make him get in touch with his deeper feelings), but it was so awful to watch. She's one cold fish.

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Anonymous wrote:I understand that but it is boring to watch.

I don't think it's boring. I think her facial expressions are amazing to watch, she conveys so much without talking.

I also think it's part of a really interesting larger arc--these three kids all raised in the same house, but all turning out so differently. How much is genetic, how much is parental/societal expectation. How did it affect their relationships with mom and dad.

Also, and I'm not sure why, but I do love Jami Gertz and hope the Marin character continues to show up.

I too love Jami Gertz and am thrilled to see her on the show! She can do drama and comedy equally well.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm totally tired of Kate's "I'm fat" storyline.

Randall is an amazing character. I find the dad (Jack?) very interesting, too.

I am too. Enough already.

I think SHE is tired of it too. I think the show is pointing out, if you're different, this stuff finds you. Here she is, getting a new job, doing great at it, nothing to do with her size. And the rude teen brings it up.

I am not overweight. But have talked with friends who are, and you know, I think they're tired of it. I think they face it sometimes, but most of the time they want to focus on other stuff.

So it's going to keep being a storyline. It's a part of her, it affects her. And even when she wants to focus on other aspects of her self, it comes back.

Yes. I am overweight (need to lose 75-100lbs) and my weight affects everything. My interactions with people, my self esteem, my relationships, my feelings of self worth. Unless you are seriously overweight, you have no idea how is affects a person.

Yeah, I weigh like 235 or so and my weight affects so much. Yesterday I went to use a public bathroom and practically had to straddle the toilet to close the door. I keep having to yank my shirt down from the back so the collar in the front goes up and I don't show cleavage. When I pass someone in the hallway I always worry about there being enough room for both of us. I have lots of physical problems. I worry about breaking chairs (never happened), taking up too much space in life, my DD being embarrassed by me or being teased about me, etc.

Hugs to you. I think it's perfectly fine to put your thoughts here regarding your weight. I was obese for decades and for those who have never struggled with this issue, it would be hard to understand. You have to think about ordinary things in a whole different light. Even after I lost the weight, it took my mind quite some time to catch up.

Re: Kate on the show. She is supposed to have struggled with her weight since childhood so these issues would be long ingrained and the only life she knows.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm totally tired of Kate's "I'm fat" storyline.

Randall is an amazing character. I find the dad (Jack?) very interesting, too.

I am too. Enough already.

I think SHE is tired of it too. I think the show is pointing out, if you're different, this stuff finds you. Here she is, getting a new job, doing great at it, nothing to do with her size. And the rude teen brings it up.

I am not overweight. But have talked with friends who are, and you know, I think they're tired of it. I think they face it sometimes, but most of the time they want to focus on other stuff.

So it's going to keep being a storyline. It's a part of her, it affects her. And even when she wants to focus on other aspects of her self, it comes back.

Yes. I am overweight (need to lose 75-100lbs) and my weight affects everything. My interactions with people, my self esteem, my relationships, my feelings of self worth. Unless you are seriously overweight, you have no idea how is affects a person.

Yeah, I weigh like 235 or so and my weight affects so much. Yesterday I went to use a public bathroom and practically had to straddle the toilet to close the door. I keep having to yank my shirt down from the back so the collar in the front goes up and I don't show cleavage. When I pass someone in the hallway I always worry about there being enough room for both of us. I have lots of physical problems. I worry about breaking chairs (never happened), taking up too much space in life, my DD being embarrassed by me or being teased about me, etc.

I'm not unsympathetic, but Ents and Pop Culture probably isn't the best forum for you to start opening up about this. Health and Medicine maybe?

Are you the DCUM post police? PP is talking about how she shares a similar experience as a character in a TV show that is being discussed on this thread.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm totally tired of Kate's "I'm fat" storyline.

Randall is an amazing character. I find the dad (Jack?) very interesting, too.

I am too. Enough already.

I think SHE is tired of it too. I think the show is pointing out, if you're different, this stuff finds you. Here she is, getting a new job, doing great at it, nothing to do with her size. And the rude teen brings it up.

I am not overweight. But have talked with friends who are, and you know, I think they're tired of it. I think they face it sometimes, but most of the time they want to focus on other stuff.

So it's going to keep being a storyline. It's a part of her, it affects her. And even when she wants to focus on other aspects of her self, it comes back.

Yes. I am overweight (need to lose 75-100lbs) and my weight affects everything. My interactions with people, my self esteem, my relationships, my feelings of self worth. Unless you are seriously overweight, you have no idea how is affects a person.

Yeah, I weigh like 235 or so and my weight affects so much. Yesterday I went to use a public bathroom and practically had to straddle the toilet to close the door. I keep having to yank my shirt down from the back so the collar in the front goes up and I don't show cleavage. When I pass someone in the hallway I always worry about there being enough room for both of us. I have lots of physical problems. I worry about breaking chairs (never happened), taking up too much space in life, my DD being embarrassed by me or being teased about me, etc.