Anonymous
Post 03/08/2016 18:22     Subject: 3 killed in crash on River Road

He's not disadvantaged if he's driving a car that starts at $45K.
Anonymous
Post 03/08/2016 18:16     Subject: 3 killed in crash on River Road

Anonymous wrote:I don't get where you get disadvantaged minority from? And why would that be relevant? People are passing judgment based on his prior record. Let's pray that it wasn't due to his poor driving.


Agree. He's a 20 year old in a brand new BMW with 10 previous driving violations (that's what was reported on the news). Of course his prior violations do not indicate he was at fault in this particular accident but presumably it makes them investigate closely.
Anonymous
Post 03/08/2016 18:09     Subject: 3 killed in crash on River Road

I don't get where you get disadvantaged minority from? And why would that be relevant? People are passing judgment based on his prior record. Let's pray that it wasn't due to his poor driving.
Anonymous
Post 03/08/2016 12:00     Subject: 3 killed in crash on River Road

Anonymous wrote:The car has to have some recording sensors, so I think the speed and braking info will come out eventually, but even if he was going a little fast, he is a youth, he is part of a disadvantaged minority, the people that died were turning left and had an absolute duty to YIELD. So really the poor youth is the victim here. I wouldn't be surprised if he could successfully sue the estate of the deceased. It's a tragedy for all, but lets all pray for this poor youth. He shouldn't have to put up with this scrutiny and speculation.

I am not passing judgement on anyone, but at least part of the reason for the scrutiny and speculation is the prior driving record of the young man.
Anonymous
Post 03/08/2016 11:38     Subject: 3 killed in crash on River Road

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The car has to have some recording sensors, so I think the speed and braking info will come out eventually, but even if he was going a little fast, he is a youth, he is part of a disadvantaged minority, the people that died were turning left and had an absolute duty to YIELD. So really the poor youth is the victim here. I wouldn't be surprised if he could successfully sue the estate of the deceased. It's a tragedy for all, but lets all pray for this poor youth. He shouldn't have to put up with this scrutiny and speculation.


I know this is a serious conversation but I couldn't help but read this entire paragraph in Joe Pesci's 'my cousin vinny' post. Who says youth like that over and over?


"What's "the yute"?"
Anonymous
Post 03/08/2016 11:36     Subject: 3 killed in crash on River Road

Anonymous wrote:The car has to have some recording sensors, so I think the speed and braking info will come out eventually, but even if he was going a little fast, he is a youth, he is part of a disadvantaged minority, the people that died were turning left and had an absolute duty to YIELD. So really the poor youth is the victim here. I wouldn't be surprised if he could successfully sue the estate of the deceased. It's a tragedy for all, but lets all pray for this poor youth. He shouldn't have to put up with this scrutiny and speculation.


I know this is a serious conversation but I couldn't help but read this entire paragraph in Joe Pesci's 'my cousin vinny' post. Who says youth like that over and over?
Anonymous
Post 03/08/2016 11:35     Subject: 3 killed in crash on River Road

Anonymous wrote:The car has to have some recording sensors, so I think the speed and braking info will come out eventually, but even if he was going a little fast, he is a youth, he is part of a disadvantaged minority, the people that died were turning left and had an absolute duty to YIELD. So really the poor youth is the victim here. I wouldn't be surprised if he could successfully sue the estate of the deceased. It's a tragedy for all, but lets all pray for this poor youth. He shouldn't have to put up with this scrutiny and speculation.


We can pray for all involved and the investigation hopefully will reveal the facts and find fault as appropriate. But your spinning this as a "poor youth, part of a disadvantaged minority" is positive retching. Indeed the youth is neither poor nor disadvantaged and his full driving record no doubt will be examined closely.
Anonymous
Post 03/08/2016 11:27     Subject: 3 killed in crash on River Road

Anonymous wrote:The car has to have some recording sensors, so I think the speed and braking info will come out eventually, but even if he was going a little fast, he is a youth, he is part of a disadvantaged minority, the people that died were turning left and had an absolute duty to YIELD. So really the poor youth is the victim here. I wouldn't be surprised if he could successfully sue the estate of the deceased. It's a tragedy for all, but lets all pray for this poor youth. He shouldn't have to put up with this scrutiny and speculation.


+1 if the youth was in fact not at fault he is also a victim. I can't imagine being in an accident and 3 people die. To carry that with you and you are only 20 is really sad for all involved.
Anonymous
Post 03/08/2016 11:08     Subject: 3 killed in crash on River Road

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Let's go back to the new traffic light - which I'm really happy about as this is a commonly used dangerous intersection.

Someone posted that lights cause more accidents - tell me why?

I understand that the ppl that don't obey the rules will continue doing so, but for people like the dad, who's trying to figure out the right time to turn, don't traffic lights improve their safety by giving clear consistent directions on when it's safe to go in any particular direction?


Lights cause rear end accidents because they interrupt the flow of traffic.


No, traffic signals don't cause rear-end crashes. Rear-end crashes are caused by tailgaters who disregard traffic signals and expect other people to do so as well.

+1
River road is rife with aggressive asshole drivers in fancy cars.
Anonymous
Post 03/08/2016 10:53     Subject: 3 killed in crash on River Road

The car has to have some recording sensors, so I think the speed and braking info will come out eventually, but even if he was going a little fast, he is a youth, he is part of a disadvantaged minority, the people that died were turning left and had an absolute duty to YIELD. So really the poor youth is the victim here. I wouldn't be surprised if he could successfully sue the estate of the deceased. It's a tragedy for all, but lets all pray for this poor youth. He shouldn't have to put up with this scrutiny and speculation.
Anonymous
Post 03/03/2016 07:45     Subject: 3 killed in crash on River Road

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm literally hitting my head against the wall. First of all, her family is a family of doctors - don't you think ONE of them has notified the insurance company of the event? Second, don't you think ONE of them will think to pay the next premium? Third, there is usually a 30 day grace period by law. Last, it's really nobody's business.

Between this and the person in the political thread who intended to vote in BOTH the democratic and republican primaries, and had NO CLUE that wasn't allowed.....


Where do you get that they're a family of doctors?


Not PP but I'm assuming there are people here who know the family.


I imagine they can handle things. The Volt driver and his Neurologist brother where partners in a management firm that ran a large scale medical clinic... https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/2000/02/21/when-a-health-firm-gets-sick-and-dies/d9ed489b-6377-4fc1-9bd3-bbab705c4c97/


The Volt driver isn't mentioned at all in this article.


Sure he is... "Medi-Cen spent more than $1 million on accountants and lawyers to prepare for a $20 million initial public offering in 1998. Macedo's brother, Mickey, was a securities lawyer and chief executive officer of Medi-Cen Management Inc. Together, they owned 88.8 percent of company shares."
Anonymous
Post 03/02/2016 21:58     Subject: 3 killed in crash on River Road

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Another terrible accident on outbound River this morning. This is the second bad accident (i.e. requiring jaws of life) I've passed in just over two weeks, not having witnessed the fatal accident earlier this week. What is going on lately?!


The problem with River Road west of the Westbard area is that it's engineered for speed - that is, for driving higher than the posted speed. That fact, the wide median separating the travel lanes and little commercial activity, make River seem more like a rural highway than an arterial road through a densely populated area. East of Westbard cars don't speed to the same extent. MD DOT and the County need to do a thorough engineering assessment of River on how to lower drivers' perceptions of the appropriate speed.


It's a state road, so MD SHA needs to do that; the county has no jurisdiction. Other than that, I agree completely. In fact, MD SHA needs to do the same for ALL of the state roads in the county.


What? East of Westbard the speed limit is lower. It is not a perception thing. It is a more densely populated and commercial area.


How do you know how fast to drive on a road when you don't know what the speed limit on that road is (or you disregard the posted speed limit)? You take your cues from the road design. That's what "driver perception of appropriate speed" is.
Anonymous
Post 03/02/2016 21:56     Subject: 3 killed in crash on River Road

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Let's go back to the new traffic light - which I'm really happy about as this is a commonly used dangerous intersection.

Someone posted that lights cause more accidents - tell me why?

I understand that the ppl that don't obey the rules will continue doing so, but for people like the dad, who's trying to figure out the right time to turn, don't traffic lights improve their safety by giving clear consistent directions on when it's safe to go in any particular direction?


Lights cause rear end accidents because they interrupt the flow of traffic.


No, traffic signals don't cause rear-end crashes. Rear-end crashes are caused by tailgaters who disregard traffic signals and expect other people to do so as well.
Anonymous
Post 03/02/2016 21:36     Subject: 3 killed in crash on River Road

Anonymous wrote:Let's go back to the new traffic light - which I'm really happy about as this is a commonly used dangerous intersection.

Someone posted that lights cause more accidents - tell me why?

I understand that the ppl that don't obey the rules will continue doing so, but for people like the dad, who's trying to figure out the right time to turn, don't traffic lights improve their safety by giving clear consistent directions on when it's safe to go in any particular direction?


Lights cause rear end accidents because they interrupt the flow of traffic.
Anonymous
Post 03/02/2016 21:32     Subject: 3 killed in crash on River Road

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Another terrible accident on outbound River this morning. This is the second bad accident (i.e. requiring jaws of life) I've passed in just over two weeks, not having witnessed the fatal accident earlier this week. What is going on lately?!


The problem with River Road west of the Westbard area is that it's engineered for speed - that is, for driving higher than the posted speed. That fact, the wide median separating the travel lanes and little commercial activity, make River seem more like a rural highway than an arterial road through a densely populated area. East of Westbard cars don't speed to the same extent. MD DOT and the County need to do a thorough engineering assessment of River on how to lower drivers' perceptions of the appropriate speed.


It's a state road, so MD SHA needs to do that; the county has no jurisdiction. Other than that, I agree completely. In fact, MD SHA needs to do the same for ALL of the state roads in the county.


What? East of Westbard the speed limit is lower. It is not a perception thing. It is a more densely populated and commercial area.