Anonymous
Post 09/12/2025 15:31     Subject: Re:Walls Versus DCI

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The DCI boosters are working overtime, as usual....


What boosting? The discussion is based on facts and data of AP pass rate.

Feel free to share the AP pre calculus and calculus pass rate at Walls. Oh wait, someone said DCPS doesn’t share this…..


DCI thinking it is in the same league as Walls is like the Commanders thinking they are going to beat down the Packers.


No one said anything about that. But it is obvious that DCI can serve the top math students and serve them well.

You can’t say that about Walls if you can’t provide the data.

BTW a parent from Walls posted above that their AP math scores are good but then did not post any data when posters on here asked.

Anonymous
Post 09/12/2025 14:25     Subject: Walls Versus DCI

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Are grades inflated at DCI? I heard half the middle school gets straight As (Principal's List)[/quote]

That is objectively false. Principals list is really hard and requires straight As. Honor roll is much harder. I can’t post because it would violate people’s privacy but this is just false.

If anything teachers have expectations that are too high. My kids struggle with PE. [/quote]

I think it's the opposite. Principal's list is for the highest scorers. Honor roll is a GPA level below that. My kids have not experienced universal grade inflation. Like many schools, there are some teachers who are known as easier graders than others and a few stickler teachers who make it very very hard to earn a 7. (6 and 7 are both like As, I believe but don't quote me on that).
Anonymous
Post 09/12/2025 14:14     Subject: Walls Versus DCI

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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DCI offers AP precalc for advanced math students in the 10th grade and very advanced math students in the 9th grade. Of that group, 98% received an AP score of 3 or higher. My anecdotal understanding is that most received higher, much higher. This is mostly due to good identification of strong math students and good teaching. These kids will go on to IB math in their 11th and 12th grade years.


Out of curiosity: Is there any particular advantage for being on this fast track, other than for students who aim to major in engineering or math or physics?
And does being on a math fast track help with improving SAT or even the prospect for PSAT/ NMS?


It can be hard to get to Calc BC if you don’t take pre calc in 10th at a standard public school (where there might not be space). It’s also easier to do well on the IB tests if you have it out of the way.

There’s a high correlation between AP calc test scores and SAT/PSAT scores but the tests have nothing to do with one another. SAT math is a prerequisite for the math you will do in calculus but that’s about it.
Anonymous
Post 09/12/2025 13:49     Subject: Walls Versus DCI

Anonymous wrote:DCI offers AP precalc for advanced math students in the 10th grade and very advanced math students in the 9th grade. Of that group, 98% received an AP score of 3 or higher. My anecdotal understanding is that most received higher, much higher. This is mostly due to good identification of strong math students and good teaching. These kids will go on to IB math in their 11th and 12th grade years.


Out of curiosity: Is there any particular advantage for being on this fast track, other than for students who aim to major in engineering or math or physics?
And does being on a math fast track help with improving SAT or even the prospect for PSAT/ NMS?
Anonymous
Post 09/12/2025 13:48     Subject: Re:Walls Versus DCI

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The DCI boosters are working overtime, as usual....


What boosting? The discussion is based on facts and data of AP pass rate.

Feel free to share the AP pre calculus and calculus pass rate at Walls. Oh wait, someone said DCPS doesn’t share this…..


DCI thinking it is in the same league as Walls is like the Commanders thinking they are going to beat down the Packers.
Anonymous
Post 09/12/2025 12:56     Subject: Walls Versus DCI

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DCI offers AP precalc for advanced math students in the 10th grade and very advanced math students in the 9th grade. Of that group, 98% received an AP score of 3 or higher. My anecdotal understanding is that most received higher, much higher. This is mostly due to good identification of strong math students and good teaching. These kids will go on to IB math in their 11th and 12th grade years.


How do most students get into 9th grade AP PreCalc at DCI? Is there specific tracking set up in middle school for this? If so, how do you get selected for the track?



Yes, math tracking starts in 6th as soon as the kids enter the school.

The school has the test scores from the feeders and based on that, grades, and teachers recommendations, the kids are placed accordingly.



Also it is fluid. Kids can move up and down based on the set criteria another poster mentioned above.
Anonymous
Post 09/12/2025 12:52     Subject: Walls Versus DCI

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DCI offers AP precalc for advanced math students in the 10th grade and very advanced math students in the 9th grade. Of that group, 98% received an AP score of 3 or higher. My anecdotal understanding is that most received higher, much higher. This is mostly due to good identification of strong math students and good teaching. These kids will go on to IB math in their 11th and 12th grade years.


How do most students get into 9th grade AP PreCalc at DCI? Is there specific tracking set up in middle school for this? If so, how do you get selected for the track?



Yes, math tracking starts in 6th as soon as the kids enter the school.

The school has the test scores from the feeders and based on that, grades, and teachers recommendations, the kids are placed accordingly.
Anonymous
Post 09/12/2025 12:50     Subject: Re:Walls Versus DCI

Anonymous wrote:The DCI boosters are working overtime, as usual....


What boosting? The discussion is based on facts and data of AP pass rate.

Feel free to share the AP pre calculus and calculus pass rate at Walls. Oh wait, someone said DCPS doesn’t share this…..
Anonymous
Post 09/12/2025 12:30     Subject: Walls Versus DCI

Anonymous wrote:DCI offers AP precalc for advanced math students in the 10th grade and very advanced math students in the 9th grade. Of that group, 98% received an AP score of 3 or higher. My anecdotal understanding is that most received higher, much higher. This is mostly due to good identification of strong math students and good teaching. These kids will go on to IB math in their 11th and 12th grade years.


How do most students get into 9th grade AP PreCalc at DCI? Is there specific tracking set up in middle school for this? If so, how do you get selected for the track?
Anonymous
Post 09/12/2025 12:25     Subject: Walls Versus DCI

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DCI has a stronger math track. If your kid is an elite math student, dci is a better fit. You can take AP pre-Calc as a freshman, AP calc as a sophomore, and then go into HL IB math as a junior and senior.

The language element of dci is head and shoulders better than walls.

If your kid is good at stem stuff and speaks a bunch of languages, DCI is a better choice. That said most people won’t fit into that bucket.

Also admissions at walls get weaker each year. I would rather my kid be around motivated kids in the IB track than kids who managed good grades at some mediocre dcps. I find the lack of standardized testing really worrisome for Wall’s future.

Either way you can’t go wrong.


Languages are stronger at DCI.
Walls offers similar math options as above.
A lot depends on what your kid plans to do for a career and actual level of math they'll need.


Does Walls allow students to take AP PreCalc in 9th grade now? Last I checked you were forced into Honors PreCalc.
Anonymous
Post 09/12/2025 12:09     Subject: Walls Versus DCI

Anonymous wrote:DCI has a stronger math track. If your kid is an elite math student, dci is a better fit. You can take AP pre-Calc as a freshman, AP calc as a sophomore, and then go into HL IB math as a junior and senior.

The language element of dci is head and shoulders better than walls.

If your kid is good at stem stuff and speaks a bunch of languages, DCI is a better choice. That said most people won’t fit into that bucket.

Also admissions at walls get weaker each year. I would rather my kid be around motivated kids in the IB track than kids who managed good grades at some mediocre dcps. I find the lack of standardized testing really worrisome for Wall’s future.

Either way you can’t go wrong.


Languages are stronger at DCI.
Walls offers similar math options as above.
A lot depends on what your kid plans to do for a career and actual level of math they'll need.
Anonymous
Post 09/12/2025 11:35     Subject: Re:Walls Versus DCI

The DCI boosters are working overtime, as usual....
Anonymous
Post 09/12/2025 11:20     Subject: Walls Versus DCI

Anonymous wrote:DCI offers AP precalc for advanced math students in the 10th grade and very advanced math students in the 9th grade. Of that group, 98% received an AP score of 3 or higher. My anecdotal understanding is that most received higher, much higher. This is mostly due to good identification of strong math students and good teaching. These kids will go on to IB math in their 11th and 12th grade years.


98% AP pass rate is impressive. What is more impressive is that these are 9th and 10th graders, especially if they are scoring 4 and 5’s.
Anonymous
Post 09/11/2025 21:44     Subject: Walls Versus DCI

DCI offers AP precalc for advanced math students in the 10th grade and very advanced math students in the 9th grade. Of that group, 98% received an AP score of 3 or higher. My anecdotal understanding is that most received higher, much higher. This is mostly due to good identification of strong math students and good teaching. These kids will go on to IB math in their 11th and 12th grade years.
Anonymous
Post 09/11/2025 10:30     Subject: Walls Versus DCI

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:To place into advanced math at 6th grade you need an 80% or higher in the NWEA plus a teacher recommendation. In my experience they usually require a pattern of 80%+ achievement on the NWEA, not an outlier test. To get double advanced math, i believe it’s 90%+ on multiple NWEA tests, a 6 average in advanced math, and a 5 on the PARCC plus teacher recommendation. No amount of bullying will let them override these requirements.


This is great info and how high the bar is to get into the advance classes. This allows only students who are ready in and who can handle acceleration and won’t slow down the class.



Yes and DCI also offers a lot of support classes for children who are struggling in math and English. They are very quick to put kids in support classes and take a more wait and see approach to promoting kids to the advanced classes.


Kids usually have 2 electives but for kids above, they just get 1 elective and the 2nd elective is replaced with the support class. These kids are identified based on standardized test scores. If below a certain percentage, they automatically get put in the class.

So objective data for support classes and objective data AND high bar for advance classes. This helps bring up the bottom and yet still provide adequate classes and challenge for the top.

Above is why DCI is doing so well with a higher at risk and significantly higher ELL and SPED population while still being able to serve the highest performing kids.

DCPS strategy is to take away objective data and use subjective criteria in the name of equity. What this does is just lower standards and helps no one.